Plagued COVID Conspiracy Theorists and other idiots - This is not a political thunderdome or gay slapfight thread.

Dylan said:
JFC, kiwifarms getting poppular attracted hordes of leftards and "centrists".
Your level of "research" is even more shallow than that of a Karen on Facebook.
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Lol the farms used to be more centre but has gradually turned into culturally right wing and autistic thunderdome is full blown circlejerk how much do you need your hokey beliefs confirmed that kiwi "gas the trannies" farms is too pozzed for you?
 
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John Merston said:
The percentage of Republicans over 50 choosing to get vaccinated is much higher than I expected.
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Republicans over 50 go to church, and churches are massive drivers of vaccine promotion and awareness outside cities. This applies worldwide, even to issues other than COVID (Catholic outreach in certain countries is the only reason the locals trust any medication at all) but also in the United States in specific. Hospital/church partnerships are common in the South especially.
Christian opposition to vaccines and medicine in general comes from online sources or lone TV "priests" with paid audiences; services that are, at the end of the day, fringe.

On its coattails, COVID has catapulted generic anti-medicine beliefs from a very niche bipartisan affair most prevalent in elderly individuals with "alternative lifestyles" (hippies, rich people, and Christian communes), to a much more prevalent but skewed young, male, Republican-leaning demographic. No longer is taking water pills and huffing essential oils to ward off Satan the exclusive domain of Californians and over-eighties, now your plumber thinks it's cool too!
That demographic happens to be the one absenting Sunday services because it was too preachy for them, which is a major and current concern of most religious bodies in the US. Entirely coincidental, I'm sure.
 
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John Merston said:
The percentage of Republicans over 50 choosing to get vaccinated is much higher than I expected.
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I'm not surprised because I think there are more people who realize its a serious situation than not, just not enough for us to beat it. My parents both were diehard Trumpers, but even they were first in line to get the vaccine and all Trump's anti-vax and anti-mask stuff soured him on them. They're both in their 60s and immunocompromised, so they saw through his shit quick at that point.
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Sure, but not for long and clearly not to the person who chose not to vaccinate.
 
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Autopsy said:
Republicans over 50 go to church, and churches are massive drivers of vaccine promotion and awareness outside cities. This applies worldwide, even to issues other than COVID (Catholic outreach in certain countries is the only reason the locals trust any medication at all) but also in the United States in specific. Hospital/church partnerships are common in the South especially.
Christian opposition to vaccines and medicine in general comes from online sources or lone TV "priests" with paid audiences; services that are, at the end of the day, fringe.

On its coattails, COVID has catapulted generic anti-medicine beliefs from a very niche bipartisan affair most prevalent in elderly individuals with "alternative lifestyles" (hippies, rich people, and Christian communes), to a much more prevalent but skewed young, male, Republican-leaning demographic. No longer is taking water pills and huffing essential oils to ward off Satan the exclusive domain of Californians and over-eighties, now your plumber thinks it's cool too!
That demographic happens to be the one absenting Sunday services because it was too preachy for them, which is a major and current concern of most religious bodies in the US. Entirely coincidental, I'm sure.
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It’s just as likely that they are simply old enough to remember their parents being terrified of polio, and other kids being crippled by it, and babies being left with permanent disability from measles (there are boomers in my family who remember that). Ironically it is the fact that vaccines have been so successful that makes younger people not appreciate them.
 
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behindyourightnow said:
It’s just as likely that they are simply old enough to remember their parents being terrified of polio, and other kids being crippled by it, and babies being left with permanent disability from measles (there are boomers in my family who remember that). Ironically it is the fact that vaccines have been so successful that makes younger people not appreciate them.
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Prevalence and feeling of personal risk are major factors for the average person in making personal health decisions, as they should be. The problem is that people are bad at math, and round "low risk" down to "no risk" when they're really still at decent odds to get fucked over by that call. Over-50 is indeed the demographic that has seen and remembered the most, and they're the ones who survived, i.e. the most cautious and risk averse. The boomers who participated in sex, drugs, and rock and roll are either crippled or dead. Obviously this isn't every single individual, but it is a factor across the whole over-50 population.

There are problems documenting the health of the very elderly for this very reason, there's a perverse sort of natural selection afoot as you age. The ones who make it that long (the 80+ range) tend to be the ones who are unusually compliant with medications, who have good diets, unusually high pain tolerance/level of activity, are wealthier, etc. It gets to the point where dementia shutting down those faculties, zero comorbidity heart failure, tumors, or their obsolescing immune system are the leading killers, rather than being too fat and stupid to live like in the 50-74 age-range.
 
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Autopsy said:
There are problems documenting the health of the very elderly for this very reason, there's a perverse sort of natural selection afoot as you age. The ones who make it that long tend to be the ones who are unusually compliant with medications, who have good diets, unusually high pain tolerance/level of activity, are wealthier, etc. It gets to the point where dementia shutting down those faculties, zero comorbidity heart failure, tumors, or their obsolescing immune system are the leading killers, rather than being too fat and stupid to live like in the 50-74 age-range.
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Kind of like how you never see a really fat old person.

I disagree with this though:

The boomers who participated in sex, drugs, and rock and roll are either crippled or dead.
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It's more complicated than that, stuff like socioeconomic status and genetics will fuck you over way more than a bit of sex and drugs. There is the possible confounding factor that the boomers who were more likely to participate in drug and sex orgies were more likely to be middle class because the people not doing drugs were not doing them because they were too busy getting crippled in Vietnam or working (Note: I am just guessing here, I don't know the actual data, but we should not make the mistake of transposing current socioeconomic drug-use patterns back into the boomer generation)

Also, Keith Richards is 77, enough said.
 
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So I'm thinking these Texans were probably not vaccinated...
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used to work as a hostess up until a few months ago, can confirm that people have been absolutely fucking unhinged since the pandemic started. the typical american customer already has room temperature iq as is and for whatever reason it's like they all just snapped and forgot how to compose themselves like adults in public.

also, this isn't the first time that kind of thing happened.
 
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