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I would like you to tell your whole side. Only because I find it funny.
And I would hope you bring screencaps. We here at Kiwifarms really like pictures of people being funny.
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And I would hope you bring screencaps. We here at Kiwifarms really like pictures of people being funny.
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Any pictures worth showing have already been provided in the post I first referenced. It should be mentioned that the server chat posts leaked to and later publicly shown by Blitz without permission have already been deleted as part of a particular deal, but I will get into that later. This is what I have witnessed and experienced from the start of everything:
Blitz had been doing things like this for a fair while, the ugly shitpost-y and call out art I mean. She first used it to make public her own experiences of grooming and trauma. At that point, it was all fine. She was just getting a past event off of her chest, and tried to remain anonymous about the person that had affected her. From what I saw, many people didn't mind this, even those from outside her bubble of loyal fans. However two other events caused this to start spiraling out of control.
First of all, this is the internet, and of course people within her community quickly found out that the person that she was referring to in her 12-13 page (I don't remember) posts about her previous grooming and trauma goes by the name Draco. Of course, people started to dog pile on him because "how dare you do something so horrible to an underaged female artist, shame on you". I don't have any strong feelings one way or the other about this, but many people saw Blitz's inaction to hold back her community of fans as a tad irritating. Usually, streamers, popular Twitter personalities, etc. would have been held responsible for the actions of their fans, and at the very least would be expected to either 1) keep things anonymous, or 2) tell their followers to not go after these people. Blitz not only didn't do any of this, but she both directly and indirectly supported it. You can see through various comments she makes to others as well as in responses to her own followers that she encourages their acts of 'riotousness', and in turn, her followers do the same with her, praising her as someone who is fighting back against the internet bullies.
It should be noted that venting in the form of art in and of itself is completely ok, and if I am correct, it was suggested to her by a therapist she claims to have gone to in the past. But if you decide to make that kind of art public, of course, as mentioned before, it shouldn't be used as a means for people to be sent after the person mentioned. Draco was targeted, regardless over the 'why'. That shouldn't happen. Fire shouldn't be used to fight fire, but that has been Blitz's MO for a while now. But her supporters boil down this paragraph as "How dare you want her to just hold it all in and do nothing!?! She's just trying to let others know her trauma and what she's experienced!".. It's not so simple. She is doing that, ya, and that's fine. But if her actions do lead others to raid and go after other people to harm *them*, it is her responsiblity to stop that from happening. And she actively does the opposite. THAT is what the issue is.
But back on topic.
Secondly, she decided to remove all NSFW images from FA around the same time, and I believe from her Patreon as well. Supposedly (because I simply don't know), she had given many warnings to her Patrons concerning this change, but it doesn't change the fact it was a very sudden change for those not in her patreon or not following her posts like gospel. Now, this is her own decision, and whether or not it would harm her brand or business, I, and many others, do believe that it's her own choice. If she doesn't want to make it or deal with it, it's her choice. Of course, there were going to be lots of people that wouldn't like this either, and these people would serve to let Blitz keep antagonizing people beyond the situation involved with her initial trauma statement.
Once people started to voice their irritation about her scrapping all of her NSFW stuff, she made similarly ugly call out posts on these people, and just like before, her community would back her, try to comfort her by saying things like "wow, how can people be so entitled", or "All these haters trying to get their fap off", and "How could someone say things like this to a person who has to deal with so much trauma...". However, due to the nature of how these people commented on her posts, it no longer mattered if Blitz tried to censor their names or not. If she made anything pertaining to the people complaining, then they would be auto-targeted by her fanbase. You could make the argument that anyone in her fanbase could just go after them once they see the comment, and that is true.. but Blitz decided to blow most situations she had issue with up and basically made sure everyone knew what these people would say, and of course the reaction mob would only grow larger and larger. This is incredibly inappropriate behavior for anyone to do, regardless of age, regardless of past trauma, regardless of mental state. None of those three things can be used as an excuse to *attack someone*. That's not to say that the entitled commenters and furries aren't in their own wrong, but again, fire does not beat fire, it only causes more damage. People don't seem to recognize that fact.
Naturally, those that were already irritated about what happened with the Draco situation got even more irked, and people started joining this idea. People began calling her out on it, moreso about their distaste about how she was taking care of this situation, usually posting it in comments on e6 or on her FA posts. What does Blitz do in response? Pick a villain of the day and make another post on them. The cycle would keep repeating continuously, and well.. There's a reason why this thread exists now.
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Fast forward to the point where she made the "National Geographic on cumbrain Karens". By this point, her toxicity had started to spread out to Twitter even further, as achieved by previous posts on this thread and in common knowledge. I had long since stopped watching her on FA, and I don't even have a twitter account so I obviously don't follow her there. People still, however, kept posting each time she made a 'call out shitpost' in a lot of servers I am in. I've given my own short personal thoughts about her activity about that in most of those servers, but when it came to the server where the conversation was leaked from, I am an admin there. Someone had posted the National Geographic image and I simply explained my disdain toward Blitz's actions. Let me repeat, her ACTIONS. As you can see in the image blitz made about the screen shot, I clearly state that I believe that her making the art in the first place is perfectly fine for the purposes of venting, but that I believe "making it public is a dumbass idea". As said before, making it public will just form a hate mob.
The conversation eventually became a back and forth in a voice chat with me and the other person in the screen shot, but because multiple people also invested in the conversation were not in the VC themselves, some text had to be written to include them too. So me and the other kept talking about our distaste toward Blitz's actions.
It should be mentioned that the server this was posted in is indeed NOT PUBLIC in the sense that most people would use. The server is a Patreon server. If people wanted access into the discord server, they had to give monthly payments to the artist, OR if someone already in the server wanted one of their friends in the server purely for social reasons, the moderators and admins could create an invite link if they felt that the friend would be ok to join. They'd see all the normal rooms and VC chat rooms, but it is fair to mention that there are just under 200 people in the server, around 70% of which have not said a single word past their introduction into the server, and of all of the people, a majority of them are just patrons.
By all means, the server is, indeed, private. Not just anyone can join, even if they know that the server exists. And the rules of the server, while lax, provide a sense of security for all users within. And there are rules in place to not cause trouble or arguments. Finally, Blitz is NOT a part of this server.
Regardless of all of this, someone within that server still decided to take a single screenshot (as seen in prior images, Blitz herself mentioned that she didn't see the full conversation and was just shown that one screenshot) to show to Blitz. Blitz then took this image and made another "hater shitpost", but not only that, she gave user IDs and FA profile names through her twitter. She didn't do such things on FA because she knew that would violate their terms of service. She knows the system well, and purposefully goes around things to make sure she is just within the lines.. kinda makes you wonder, if you need to avoid breaking rules, perhaps you think you might be doing something wrong right?...
From here, you guys probably know the story. The way she displayed it was a "well if you don't like it, you don't have to watch me". True, but here's the thing, just because I don't see it from you, doesn't mean it doesn't exist, and others will just keep showing it around. You can't avoid it. But it doesn't start there. Because of the complete lack of context that Blitz gave, her community started making a variety of assumptions, inculding but not limited to:
-assuming that the texts came from her own server (See Badgefox's comment)
-assuming that the words in those texts were to overtly blast Sify themselves, rather than her methods and actions. Anyone who reads even the screen cap can tell that we're not blasting her, but how she decides to handle situation (Various)
-and most prominent: assuming that this was posted in a PUBLIC space. This is the most common misconception. After Sify deleted everything and made her journal post, she even tried to make it clear that this was all done in a public space, and continues to say that "well clearly it can't be so private if someone came to me with a screen shot".. Fact of the matter, Blitz, it only takes *one* person to take that screenshot of the 200 in the server. Reminder that a good majority of those 200 aren't even active in the server and only use it to view the patreon chat and art rooms, both places not touched by this conversation in the first place.
These are my main consolidated thoughts and feelings:
There is a MASSIVE difference between making a reaction shitpost based off a comment people put out onto an already public place like E6 or FA, and making a reaction post after having to need someone to take a conversation not even meant for Blitz's eyes, made in what should be a safe and PRIVATE space, and to then post about that private information in a vast public space to over 20k people on twitter and for anyone of FA to see with little to no context except what Blitz will claim herself. But not only that, to then list the names and user IDs of those talking in that private message board, knowing that she would have a reaction mob go after simply because people had an opinion on how Blitz decided to handle these 'vent posts'.. Venting is meant to ease one's own mind.
I'd like to mention that, again, Blitz herself is not in the server where the conversation took place. So in order for her to obtain the user IDs, she had to ask her leaker to get those for her as well. She preaches that she would have liked us to be more civil about it and contact her in DMs about it, but why should I if I personally didn't have an issue with her as a person and only how you acted. It's not my job to babysit her, and ultimately, the conversation should have never reached her ears :l. Much like how she is shoving all of her vent art on a public forum, I am simply getting my own thoughts off my chest in a close knit group of people of friends in a PRIVATE SPACE... I fail to see how her supporters can not see this connection..
Nut no, apparently I am the villain here. I'm the one demonizing someone who has gone through trauma, someone 'young' who shouldn't have to be held to such high standards because of all of this..
I can tell you right now. a lot of people have been speaking about her age and how young she is. I would like to point out that her FA account was made in Oct. of 2011, as it shows that on her profile. 10 years ago. If she's not younger than 28... :l oh dear. I know she was groomed at a young age, but also a fair part of that was for pornographic content. She was doing porn well before that. Take that as you will.
But in terms of trauma, Blitz.. I won't wanna get too in depth into it because it is something very personal to me, but after all this, I do want to get this off my chest after having to hear over and over again about Blitz's own trauma. I've had to go through my own set of trauma over a past girlfriend I had in high school committing suiside for a reason she would not tell me, only that it 'wasn't my fault' and that I shouldn't have to deal with it, and she told me to leave her. She stopped coming to school, and eventually had to move to live with family elsewhere. Most people that knew her obviously put pressure on me, and many thought I was the source of what was happening. I only learned of her suiside after trying to contact her about half a year after everything happened. I wasn't even informed... And that stuck with me for the rest of high school, and through my first years of college. I saw a theropist, I had methods to vent, so I feel like I am qualified to say that I FUCKING GET IT.. You have a lot of pressure on you and you need to let it out some way. But I will still 100% hold by any and all of my words
If any actions she makes causes real harm to other people only for the sake of her peace of mind. It. Is. Not. Right.
She needs to be taught the harsh reality that she can't keep hiding behind her trauma and use it as an excuse to keep making these kinds of call out posts. Even if the people she targets are entitled or rude to her, she is obviously much bigger of a public figure and an influence to thousands of people that any reaction she makes will be many leagues harsher than whatever anyone can do to her.. at least for now.
As I have mentioned before, this thread exists for a reason. People are starting to see how bullshit her actions are, and how toxic she and her community are becoming, and with each call out posts she makes, more people are going to see that.. All I ask is that she hold the reins and makes sure that her community is kept in check, and that she just make everything 100% anonymous if she absolutely must make her thoughts public. If she needs to outlet to anyone tho, that should be her theropist, her partner, and her close friends.. not her thousands of followers. Personal troubles should remain just that. Personal.
Lastly, for a personal note.. As shown before, the person that accused Blitz for going to far with this one that Blitz fired back an attack on, saying that he was only bias because I was his boyfriend. Yes, I am.. how closed minded do you have to be to not even take a single moment to reflect that maybe you are in the wrong, Blitz?.. He had been severely hurt by her going after him just for trying to defend me. He already isn't of the best mental state either concerning things like this. So what's your excuse Sify? Why would you attack someone just trying to defend me?..
I don't want to see Blitz harmed, but I feel like she's already gone well past the point of no return for that, she can only be put in a darker light if she keeps doing things like this.. But as someone that has gone through their own personal trauma, I can somewhat relate. I'm not so much 'angry', rather extremely disappointed. That's just my morals and personality. This post was made simply to give everyone a full picture of my own personal account, since Blitz will never give anyone else's view except her own, despite her apparent desire to have civil DMs to resolve these situations.. I can't even contact her in the first place. How am I supposed to do that.. If there are specific questions, please give them in a post, and I will try my best to answer them. I can not and will not give personal information or answer questions that are not my authority to answer, but if they are questions to me about me, I can see what I can do.
Thank you for listening.
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Edit: I did mention that I would go into a particular deal. Alongside me, there was another admin who was absent from any of the conversation at the time. That person is the 'pink otter' on twitter, and she approached Blitz on behalf of all people involved in this. She is very level headed, and tried to be the neutralizer. The deal itself included this message being made on the server:
- as well as deleting all posts in the server that involved Sify in any way. In return, Sify would remove all of the twitter posts about the subject herself as well as the FA post.. Thing is, Sify has yet to remove all Tweets, leaving most of the remaining ones without context, and she had taken more than an entire day to remove the FA post, because she simply moved it to scraps. Which is funny by the way, putting an image in scraps still will have the submission show in each of her watcher's feed, and it still exists. She knows how to remove images from her page entirely because literally weeks ago, she flat out removed all NSFW images, so for everyone saying that she doesn't know how to delete an image or that she thought it was the best she could do, that is just flat out wrong.
Of course, I also disagree with that announcement and having to remove our messages to begin with. It's bending the knee to someone in the face of a threat, and ultimately, it is a rule that will not be followed. Denying the people in the server their right to bring forward any irritation over anything or anyone is just a restriction of speech. The server allows for open chat with the understanding that it is a safe space. What we should actually have done was demand the name of the person who leaked the information in the first place because that is a massive breach of trust. Once again, this server of less than 200 people, most of which are completely inactive, and of the remaining people they are close friends, we should not have to moderate each and every thing we say just because someone might screen cap it and share it with people it shouldn't. The messages were indeed in a PRIVATE area.
Would whoever leaked this like to have all of their server conversations and DMs shared with literally thousands of people?.. I wouldn't think so.
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Update: After a year, nobody did anything to put this rotten dick in jail. He's still roaming around in Romanian furry groups on Telegram.
What a world we live in...
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Because Blitz hasn't gotten the hint, another drawn out shit post, but this time, there's a disclaimer... as if that makes it any better.
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Even people who support her say that it's getting old. She says that she'll try to tone it down, but time will tell if she keeps her word.
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...first Drakinator, then whoever Blitz hates...
...there is making fun of LOLCows, and there is A-Logging to the point of being one, yourself.
...there is making fun of LOLCows, and there is A-Logging to the point of being one, yourself.
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I saw someone say they reported him to the authorities and they were looking into it. Read more.
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I wish this was the case. I remember someone saying they reported him, but it was back in 2020,after that I haven't heard anything. But judging by his Telegram messages in the said groups, he's probably getting away with what he has done, and other furries either don't know what he did, or just ignore this on purpose.
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It's disgusting how they let shit like this slide every time. That poor dog.
Hymlenis572
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Very late but lmao, I’ve been seeing this post floating around and thought it was some massive conspiracy of awful people but its just some salty pervert, typical.
Cave Fisher
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Neat to see more information about this guy, I browse /trash/ sometimes and I just assumed he was an anon with a shitty copypasta he was obsessed with, I didn't know he was that much of a loser.
Sort of an update on the blitz situation.
Recall that in a number of her quotes, that she does mention that she is willing to have a civil discussion with others over matters. around 4-5 days ago, I had thought that perhaps giving this a shot was well worth the try. However, she already had me blocked on FA, and I already mentioned that I didn't have a twitter. So I thought that perhaps sending a note to someone who knew her offering a sort of olive branch might at least get her to consider talking with me. After all, I have no other options available to me, and she'll just continue to keep thinking of me as that guy 'libeling' her with my private opinions about her actions.
What happened?
A harassment notice. This comes included with the entire note I sent to said person. The specific policy mentioned above the quote is taken from the site's word for word, and while I admit that it is asking that one person talks to another on my behalf, the policy immediately follows this statement that it doesn't include civil discussions, but doesn't include 'bewares' or other similar contexts.
I doubt that this message would seem threatening to anyone :l
Recall that in a number of her quotes, that she does mention that she is willing to have a civil discussion with others over matters. around 4-5 days ago, I had thought that perhaps giving this a shot was well worth the try. However, she already had me blocked on FA, and I already mentioned that I didn't have a twitter. So I thought that perhaps sending a note to someone who knew her offering a sort of olive branch might at least get her to consider talking with me. After all, I have no other options available to me, and she'll just continue to keep thinking of me as that guy 'libeling' her with my private opinions about her actions.
What happened?
A harassment notice. This comes included with the entire note I sent to said person. The specific policy mentioned above the quote is taken from the site's word for word, and while I admit that it is asking that one person talks to another on my behalf, the policy immediately follows this statement that it doesn't include civil discussions, but doesn't include 'bewares' or other similar contexts.
I doubt that this message would seem threatening to anyone :l
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The civil discussion applies only when you are not blocked. If you have been blocked, attempting to contact them again on the site can constitute as harassment and block evasion. You broke the rules. What more to it is there?
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Why would you out yourself like this
Dahmer
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Why are you such a retard.
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While you're posting enough dumb furry boohoo woe is me shit to make me want to fucking kill myself, and that if Saphy could notice this lovely conversation and go screeching about it while outing you for exactly who you are, this is pretty fucking entertaining to read the other side, only because it really does shit Saphy losing her fucking mind.
That said I really don't think you should just drop everything down that points exactly who you are but whatever who cares.
Green-Machine
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Digital Style
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Ohh great another fluff piece documentary about the fandom.
NotSoAceCat3
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Fam just let it go and keep the little dignity you have left. She's beyond redemption, she doesn't want a "civil discussion" she just wants to stir the pot, garner attention and get some asspats in the process. I'd say you're better than that but then again, you tried to talk to her through third parties so....
If only I had a penny for every one of those....
(Also yes, this is the second time I forget my password, rate me stupid)