Pedophilia in the gay community - oh no, homophobia

[NerdShamer]

Again that alone doesn't determine sex differnation. So yeah this is a bit of a red herring for my argument.

Alright, last post for tonight. Outside of the rare case of having multiples of the sex chromosomes, gender is binary.

 

[The Spice boi]

You know, I was getting pretty mad at this thread, ngl. But watching Ryu get intellectually curb stomped really takes the sting off you know?

 

[ryu289]

Chromosomes are the chief determining factor for biological sex. ONLY under exceptional circumstances is this not the case.

When such exceptions occur their anomalous nature proves the rule. The rule is that XY= male and XX=female.

OK, why are they the chief determining factor then?
Hormones play a big deal too: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2658794/

The gender identity of a person is the final result of genetic, hormonal and morphologic sex. Over a long period sex determination, and, specifically, male sex determination, has been correlated to the presence of the Y chromosome, which in turn has been the karyotype signal of the testes. However, research has provided data to convince that this theory is only part of the truth. In addition to the Y chromosome, a multitude of other genes influence sex determination and are able to cause male to female sex-reversal and vice versa. It is of great interest that these genes are located in more than one autosomal chromosomes or even in the X chromosome. It has become obvious that sex determination, according to the genetic sex, is a complicated matter that not only requires the presence of Y chromosome. This fact triggered extensive research of the Y chromosome and led to great insight into its structure, origin, evolution and eventual fate in humans.

And genetics as well:

Genetic Link Between Gender Dysphoria and Sex Hormone Signaling​

A significant association was identified between gender dysphoria and ERα, SRD5A2, and STS alleles, as well as ERα and SULT2A1 genotypes. Several allele combinations were also overrepresented in transgender women, most involving AR (namely, AR-ERβ, AR-PGR, AR-COMT, CYP17-SRD5A2). Overrepresented alleles and genotypes are proposed to undermasculinize/feminize on the basis of their reported effects in other disease contexts.

 

[GenociderSyo]

That article is about an exceedingly rare syndrome caused by a genetic mutation. That would not be another sex, that is an error due to a genetic disorder. There has only been 106 known cases since the disorder was first discovered.

It is so rare the disorder does not even have a name and is refferred to as 46,XX.

It is deemed a disorder of sex development, not another sex. All people with this disorder are deemed Male via biology.

"Nonsyndromic 46,XX testicular disorders of sex development (46,XX testicular DSD) are characterized by the presence of a 46,XX karyotype; male external genitalia ranging from normal to ambiguous; two testicles; azoospermia; and absence of müllerian structures. Approximately 85% of individuals with nonsyndromic 46,XX testicular DSD present after puberty with normal pubic hair and normal penile size but small testes, gynecomastia, and sterility resulting from azoospermia. Approximately 15% of individuals with nonsyndromic 46,XX testicular DSD present at birth with ambiguous genitalia. Gender role and gender identity are reported as male. If untreated, males with 46,XX testicular DSD experience the consequences of testosterone deficiency."

https://www.omim.org/entry/400045

 

[Thomas Highway]

This is some moral panic bullshit.

 

[Newman's Own]

OK, why are they the chief determining factor then?
Hormones play a big deal too: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2658794/

And genetics as well:

Hormones in a healthy normal XX woman are those of a woman. Same for XY in men.

It's almost like there's a genetic link between a persons chromosomal make-up and their hormonal development.

The study of chromosomes is a GENETIC study as chromosomes are genetic material. Four year-olds do not know this but the average grade four student does. Chromosomes are made up of genes. Genes are the root of the word 'genetic'.

You're an idiot.

Possible genetic causes for gender dysphoria (a disorder) have nothing to do with determining biological sex and are off topic.

I suspect you decided to change the subject because you have no idea what you're actually talking about and it's finally become apparent to you (to late) that everyone reading can see that too.

Even if you weren't a defender and apologist for child predation no one would have any esteem or respect for you based on you disingenuous and obtuse methods of argumentation. It would appear that you have no discernable positive qualities whatsoever. Your presence on this planet is a net loss for all living things.

 

[Niggernerd]

Basically the gist is Ryu just wants to rape trannies or be pegged by em. Man, even the most die hard troon supporters don't constantly talk about them to the point troons call them fetishizers like they do this schmuck.

Just crawl back into whatever child fucker hole you came from and shoot yourself for the betterment of society.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

What some call "biological sex" depends on alot of factors going in a certain direction which we shouldn't take for granted.

Ok, Groomer.

 

[teriyakiburns]

The paedo sprays distractions all over the thread to try and hide the fact that he wants to stick his dick in a kid. @ryu289 kill yourself you nonce.

Alright, last post for tonight. Outside of the rare case of having multiples of the sex chromosomes, gender is binary.

No, sex is binary. Gender is what words have.

 

[Rungle]

The LGBTQP+ community is always into some shady fucking shit.
For example take Desmond Is Amazing, the community supports him all the way although hes doing adult lewd acts and no fucking ratking said: "Hey stop this shit".
You never hear about the "Good" gays because they are a vocal minority and often are in the background because of the retarded majority.

Now they have cartoons, Tv-shows, and even fucking schools spouting LGBT propoganda, claiming that they should go to pride parades as a minor to celebrate.

Pride parades are where the most braindead of lgbt and sexpests go to because they only have the personality trait of being gay and have nothing else of value.
Sending kids there will make them see the sexualside of the LGBT hivemind and they will try to coax kids to commit to them as they did with Desmond.

You can be fucking gayer than gay however do not involve children around this and indoctornate them into your pedo gay sex cult.

Call it a schizopost all you want but you will see more trannies in government positions later and they will always do something involving either the health and safety of children.

 

[IKOL]

This thread is gross.

Alphabet schizocult and pedos are on the same step in the ladder. You can't prove me wrong there, that's just a fact.

 

[ryu289]

Hormones in a healthy normal XX woman are those of a woman. Same for XY in men.

So anything else is "unhealthy"? Isn't this demonizing intersex peoples?

The study of chromosomes is a GENETIC study as chromosomes are genetic material. Four year-olds do not know this but the average grade four student does. Chromosomes are made up of genes. Genes are the root of the word 'genetic'.

There are other genes involved in sex determination besides those in the chromosomes. Please move on from elementary school good sir.

Even if you weren't a defender and apologist for child predation

I am not fyi

That article is about an exceedingly rare syndrome caused by a genetic mutation. That would not be another sex, that is an error due to a genetic disorder. There has only been 106 known cases since the disorder was first discovered.

Then how come it mentions:

Other genetic factors, which contribute to male sex differentiation​

Apart from the SRY gene, there is a number of other genes that contribute dramatically to the sex determination, as it has been proven from sex reversal disorders. The Wilm's tumor-associated gene (WT1), which is located in the short arm of the chromosome 11, is comprised of 10 exons and can give rise to 24 different protein isoforms. The +KTS and –KTS isoforms arise from an alternative splicing event that incorporates or omits, respectively, three aminoacids.

A research team27 conducted an isoform-specific knockout. Both male and female mice lacking the WT1 (-KTS) isoform had reduced gonadal size, but cells in the gonads of male mice showed male-specific marker gene expression, although reduced. Mice lacking WT1 (+KTS) had severe kidney defects and male mice were completely XY sex-reversed.

Consistent with the latter study, XY patients with Frasier syndrome develop as females and display urogenital malformations. Analysis of these patients has showed that donor splice mutations in WT1 with loss of the +KTS isoform are associated with this syndrome28. According to the findings of a study, mutations in WT1 (+KTS) could lead to sex reversal because of a deficiency in the precursors of Sertoli cells29.

Steroidogenic factor 1 (SF1) is a member of the subfamily of nuclear receptors, the orphan receptors, for which no activating ligand has been found. SF1 gene expression is specifically associated with the gonad and the adrenal as they arise and is a good marker for these cells30. The gene that encodes for SF1 is located in the long arm of the chromosome 9. Mutation in this gene provoke male to female sex reversal31.

The gene named SOX9 encodes a transcription factor that contains a SRY-related HMG box32. It is located in the long arm of the chromosome 17. Expression studies in mice revealed that SOX9 is present in both sexes genital ridges, but after the initial development, is upregulated in males and switched off in females33. SOX9 is expressed in Sertoli cells throughout life, but not in the ovary. This characteristic is consistent with the upregulation of SOX9 being a direct effect of SRY action. It also suggests that is involved in determination of Sertoli cell fate. Significantly, heterozygotes for mutations in SOX9 show male to female sex reversion34,35.

According to the latter study, the protein has to reach a critical threshold to be effective, thus an additional copy of SOX9 can stimulate female to male sex reversal. SRY and SOX9 are functionally related, perhaps ensuring the male development. SOX9 is also necessary for the activation of gene which encodes for the anti- Mullerian hormone (AMH).

Another sex reversal event is observed when the Dosage Sensitive Sex Reversing Adrenal Hypoplasia Congenita critical region on the X (DAX1) gene is partially duplicated in males. The DAX1 is located on the short arm of the X chromosome36. The single X chromosome in the male is active, but a translocated region from the female X (or a partial duplication of the male X) results in two active alleles of the DAX1 gene when only one occurs normally. This gene dosage feminising effect is sufficient to counteract the effect of SRY37.

The action of DAX1 gene has resulted to its characterization as an anti-testes gene. Another anti-testes gene is the WNT4. In humans, its duplication causes male to female sex-reversal38. This effect indicates that both DAX1 and WNT4 can override the effect of SRY.

Finally, there is one more gene that interferes with sex determination, the Doublesex and Mab-3 Related Transcription factor1 (DMTR1). DMTR1 lies on the short arm of the chromosome 9. Mutation or partial deletion of this gene provokes male to female sex reversal 39,40. Two functioning copies of DMRT1 are therefore required to support testis development in mammals41.

Are you even looking at the same article, or throwing out a different one than the ones I used? Because quite frankly there are time when you can be a "biological woman" in every respect except chromosomes

You are over focusing on one particular case.
Off course I am not saying that there is another sex in this case, but the fact that 'biological sex" is more than Chromosomes. It depends on alot of factors going in a certain direction which we shouldn't take for granted.

It is deemed a disorder of sex development, not another sex. All people with this disorder are deemed Male via biology.

By what criteria? By 'biology' do you mean 'only chromosomes'? Why is it called a "disorder"? Because it is different from what is expected?

Possible genetic causes for gender dysphoria (a disorder) have nothing to do with determining biological sex and are off topic.

Beyond the fact that brain sex, doesn't match the chromosomes?

Pride parades are where the most braindead of lgbt and sexpests go to because they only have the personality trait of being gay and have nothing else of value.

Imma leave this here.

For example take Desmond Is Amazing, the community supports him all the way although hes doing adult lewd acts and no fucking ratking said: "Hey stop this shit".

Beyond the fact that Child protective services deemed this false?

 

[GenociderSyo]

Apologies to the OP for being OT, but needed to correct his flat out lying.

Spoiler: Fraser Syndrome

Okay the other disorder Fraser Syndrome:

"Fraser syndrome (FS) is a rare genetic disorder characterized by several malformations that are present at birth. These include eyes that are completely covered by the skin and usually malformed (cryptophthalmos) causing blindness; fusion of the skin between the fingers and toes (cutaneous syndactyly), a blocked or missing anal opening (imperforate anus); limb anomalies; kidney (renal) abnormalities; external genital malformations; a narrow, blocked and malformed voice box and lower respiratory tract (nostrils, larynx and lungs); skeletal defects; umbilical hernia and intellectual disability. Infants and children with Fraser syndrome may also have additional abnormalities including malformations of the middle and outer ear that may result in hearing impairment. More recently, missing eyes (bilateral anophthalmia) and liver malformations (intrahepatic biliary atresia) have been found in children with FS. Fraser syndrome is inherited in an autosomal recessive pattern. There is currently no cure for FS but surgery is available to correct some malformations associated with this disorder, depending on the severity of the malformations. Fraser syndrome is named after the Canadian geneticist George R. Fraser who first described the syndrome in 1962."

"Genital malformations are common in individuals with FS. In affected males, one or both testes may fail to descend into the scrotum (cryptorchidism), the urinary opening (meatus) may be abnormally placed on the underside of the penis (hypospadias), and/or the penis may be abnormally small (micropenis). Affected females may have malformed fallopian tubes, an abnormally enlarged clitoris (clitoromegaly), an abnormally shaped uterus with two horn-like extensions (bicornate uterus) and/or abnormally closed or absent vagina (vaginal atresia). Some affected individuals’ outer genitals may not have the typical appearance of either a male or female (ambiguous genitalia)."

Yep that really supports your fight. They are not another sex. They also die before a year old.

"The incidence of Fraser syndrome is 0.043 per 10,000 live born infants and 1.1 in 10,000 stillbirths, making it a rare syndrome."

https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/fraser-syndrome/

 

[NerdShamer]

So anything else is "unhealthy"? Isn't this demonizing intersex peoples?

Generally speaking, having an extra chromosome or two rarely leads to anything good. In this case, it causes infertility and deformed privates.

 

[Cilleystring]

Reply still down for longer posts

Ryu289 The Pedo said:
"Hormones in a healthy normal XX woman are those of a woman. Same for XY in men."

So anything else is "unhealthy"? Isn't this demonizing intersex peoples?

Stating what is healthy/normal vs unhealthy/abnormal isn't demonizing. You're using a tiny minority of abnormal people to justify your fetishes.

If I were to say "Jacob Blaustein is physically unhealthy due to being fat, and mentally unhealthy due to his obvious desire to be naked around children" that isn't demonizing you. That's just stating the truth. You are physically and mentally unhealthy. Welcome to reality nonce.

Oxford says demonizing is "to portray as wicked or threatening". One could argue you are demonizing yourself, since you portray yourself as being a threat to children by talking about being naked around kids and tranny fetishes 24/7.

Might be best to get a containment thread for Jacob / @ryu289. He's entertaining since he is so unbelievable, but he's derailing a lot of threads.

On topic - is it more accurate to say that the pedophilia community a high correlation of homosexuality? Rather than the gay community has a high correlation of pedophilia? The data on this would actually be interesting. I've wondered before if part of the reason homophobia seems to be so widespread across different cultures is because of it's perceived association with other more harmful sexual fetishes such as pedophilia.

 

[ryu289]

Stating what is healthy/normal vs unhealthy/abnormal isn't demonizing. You're using a tiny minority of abnormal people to justify your fetishes.

How so? I am talking about Trans people, and I wasn't the one who derailed the thread in that direction irregardless.

On topic - is it more accurate to say that the pedophilia community a high correlation of homosexuality? Rather than the gay community has a high correlation of pedophilia?

Neither.

 

[GenociderSyo]

On topic - is it more accurate to say that the pedophilia community a high correlation of homosexuality? Rather than the gay community has a high correlation of pedophilia? The data on this would actually be interesting. I've wondered before if part of the reason homophobia seems to be so widespread across different cultures is because of it's perceived association with other more harmful sexual fetishes such as pedophilia.

The first option is what is most accurate. There is a 11:1 ration of homosexuals vs heterosexuals in the pedophillia community. Post is buried now, but the data from the Mayo study stated this.

 

[Israel did nothing wrong]

@ryu289 here's that link you're after buddy, I'm sure you'll make great use of it.

 

[Newman's Own]

"So anything else is "unhealthy"? Isn't this demonizing intersex peoples?"
No, @ryu289 that's your uncharitable interpretation of my words to demonize me for not marching in lock step with your ridiculous post modern ideology.

"There are other genes involved in sex determination besides those in the chromosomes. Please move on from elementary school good sir."
If these genes you speak of are not the building blocks of chromosomes where can they be found and what is their mechanism for influencing sex determination?

You don't have an answer because you didn't think genes had anything to do with chromosomes at all yesterday.

Because you are dumber than a sack of rocks.

Newman's Own said:
Even if you weren't a defender and apologist for child predation

"I am not fyi"
Like I said, you are fooling no one you wannabe baby rapist.

"Are you even looking at the same article, or throwing out a different one than the ones I used? Because quite frankly there are time when you can be a "biological woman" in every respect except chromosomes"
Only you would act like "genital malformations" are anything other than a tragic so that you can maintain some kind of false ground on which to moralize against those who think you are a sick trans-fetishist with pedo inclinations.

"By what criteria? By 'biology' do you mean 'only chromosomes'? Why is it called a "disorder"? Because it is different from what is expected?"
Because of the negative side effects that come along with the genetic malfunction. It's not a miracle when someone is born who fits into your weird degenerate fantasies. It's a tragedy as evidenced by Fraser Syndrome life expectancy you sick twisted nonce sack of animal refuse.

"Beyond the fact that brain sex, doesn't match the chromosomes?"
Brain sex is still off topic. We were talking about biological sex not "brain sex" which is nebulous at best.

Stop obfuscating fuck nut.

 

[Ser Prize]

The first option is what is most accurate. There is a 11:1 ration of homosexuals vs heterosexuals in the pedophillia community. Post is buried now, but the data from the Mayo study stated this.

11:1? Jesus. That's nuts.