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This seems to be getting mostly sidelined over in the main thread, but I feel it's worth putting a bit more of a spotlight on it here:
People are quite unhappy about Kyuotto joining VShojo
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The Vshojo auditions aren't over yet as there be over by the end of the month on Sept 30th. From looking into Kyuotto's Twitter, she said she'll be trying to audition for Vshojo and is has been insisting that she will be keeping her current model and for her to "expand my wings and grow myself as a streamer (whether I get in or not)".
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At first, I was a bit confused about what Shizu's tweet was about, But now I realize that because she's auditioning for Vshojo, some people are concerned about her joining because of Nyanners and the negative impact she'll get if she gets in? I'm still confused and unsure about this whole thing. But honestly, if she wants to join Vshojo that's fine, if she doesn't get in that's fine, or if she gets in that's fine too. I don't watch Kyuotto or watch Vshojo at all, but good luck to her I guess?
For a bit of condensed background information, Kyuotto is/was an independent vtuber who had kicked Twitter's hornet nest with the reveal of her original model sometime late last year, which turned out to be a loli succubus design, which, as one might expect, caused absolutely no end of moral grandstanding and crusading to get her "cancelled" off of social media and kill her potential streaming career before it even had a chance to take off.

Naturally, by this same token, maybe a (small) handful of more neutral-minded individuals, clout chasers who live to slapfight with people on Twitter, and actual lolicons brigaded right back against her detractors with the whole matter, despite having died down considerably since Kyu's debut, eventually ending up in a stalemate between two very aggressive, fairly dumb sides.

Just last month, however, Kyuotto finally debuted an actual "adult form" model, which caused some concern that she had finally given in to her detractors after all this time, especially when she seems to have stuck to using her new "adult" model over the original in most of her streams to date (despite her constant insistence over the last year that she will never compromise on her identity, nor would she audition for more professional/corporate groups like Hololive or Vshojo out of a fear that they might try to make her be someone else, and she didn't want to give up the community she'd built up thus far). And now, within the last week or two, Kyu has announced that she will be officially auditioning for Vshojo, in spite of the views she'd expressed about the matter earlier in the year.

While that's raised a whole entire slew of handwringing and doomposting out of her fanbase, which seems to be focusing mostly on concerns regarding Nyanners' whole bullshit and the possibility of Kyu going down the same road as she did, it's also apparently caused a lot of community infighting between fans of hers who are staying "true & honest", and the disillusioned fans who are starting to doubt her intentions (namely, aforementioned Twitter celebrities like Shizu and Dimitri Monroe, both of which only seemed to jump on the Kyu Defense Brigade back in the beginning to slapfight with idiots on Twitter, as they usually do).

Personally, I also don't really like that Kyuotto's trying to apply for Vshojo either, particularly because of her own past claims, but, in this case, I also think it's hilarious how overly dramatic people like Dimitri are being about the whole thing while also trying to argue that he's totally not shitflinging at the people who are basically telling him to "lol calm down".

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Just posting your bog-standard, doomer mood reaction images in regards to this news. How is that doomposting?

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The classic, tried and true "no u" defense.

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"See! You're putting words in my mouth!" The gay child protests, while proceeding to explain that his grievance is, in fact, the exact thing people assumed that it was.

This whole debacle has the makings to be a good old trashfire especially if more of her "eceleb" followers throw fits about this and I'm looking forward to seeing what'll come next.



And in other news from the main thread: ENVtubers literally cannot stop starting shit over little things.
Came here just to say BaoVtuber is a scumfuck bitch.

Context, someone in her discord leaked"personal information" like 10 people heard it, and she JUST HAD TO use her 100k Followers to attack a small content creator.

The "personal info" was literally her relationship status.

Shes probably just mad she can't cater to the mentally ill simps who want to fuck her.

NONE OF THIS IS AN ISSUE IF SHE JUST SETTLED IT IN DMS.

Stupid.

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She even said, there is "no evidence cause it was in VC" so yea a non issue, she shot herself in the foot.
Because I feel like all this sperging might get deleted so I've archived both the spergs

Bao Tweet & Bao Explanation Shit
 
@Gravemind (I think due to length it won't let me properly quote you, I hope this works)

... (despite her constant insistence over the last year that she will never compromise on her identity, nor would she audition for more professional/corporate groups like Hololive or Vshojo...)
... And now, within the last week or two, Kyu has announced that she will be officially auditioning for Vshojo, in spite of the views she'd expressed about the matter earlier in the year...
I never trust statements such as "I will never audition for Vshojo!" because they're often made when you lack the ability to join in the first place. Suddenly that corporation doesn't look so bad anymore now that you can join it.

If I ever find myself questioning whether it's a good business decision to come in as a brand new character/identity completely separate from your previous iterations, I can just look back to this for clarity.
 
I never trust statements such as "I will never audition for Vshojo!" because they're often made when you lack the ability to join in the first place. Suddenly that corporation doesn't look so bad anymore now that you can join it.

If I ever find myself questioning whether it's a good business decision to come in as a brand new character/identity completely separate from your previous iterations, I can just look back to this for clarity.
In Kyu's case, it wasn't so much "I will NEVER audition" but more that she admitted that she had considered the idea of auditioning before but decided against it, stating her desire to avoid compromising her identity or sacrificing her community as a result.

Just seems like now that she has more confidence and a less controversial model to make use of, she's walking back on those prior statements hoping to pursue things that will further her career. I don't happen to like how she's going back on her own word like that, but, hey, people are opportunistic sometimes. It sucks, but what can you do.

I'm just not so sure that it'll work out in her case given that she's already been crucified in the court of public opinion on account of her prior "loli" model. A lot of her detractors were still giving her shit even when she changed over to the adult form because of it, so people aren't as likely to forget she had that reputation at one point in time. It also doesn't help that she has "art thief" tacked onto her litany of "sins" as well since those same detractors dug into her past and found out she had traced artwork years ago and attempted to sell it, and then spread that information around as further ammo to crusade against her presence on the internet with.
 
@Gravemind I can't seem to quote you but you also forgot the part where Kyutto's loli design won an unofficial twitter contest for "Best Vtuber Thighs", which made the EN Vtweeter sphere angry because of course
I think that's a one-off case that was generally symptomatic of the ENVtweeter sphere already seething and slandering her, but yeah, that was also a thing that happened.

Quoting from the main thread back when it happened:
For anyone that cares, VTuber Thighs has made a statement about last month's "VTuber Thighble". (Archive.)
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Here's the twitlonger. (Archive.)
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To sum it up: Kyuotto, a loli VTuber who was previously mentioned on this thread a couple of times, won last month's contest, people were mad, and Mr. Thighs made this statement shortly after, disallowing lolis to enter the contest from that point forward.

IMO, after reading his posts and analyzing this whole situation, this guy is a weak and spineless coward and I'm 99% sure he also hates loli/shota content behind the scenes. He says he "doesn't care" but I don't buy it. I can't believe he's getting so much support.
I'm not sure there's a better site for me to express this opinion, so here we are.

At least Null's honest and I respect him for that.

Anyways, here's some Aqua.
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Unsurprisingly, lolis are banned. The fact that he also mentions "background checking" the potential winner is also pretty suspicious. It just sounds like he's adding unnecessary bullshit over fucking anime thighs.
Though it doesn't surprise me as it's someone who's terminally online on Twitter of all places.

He really is a wolf in sheep's clothing on top of being a doormat.

Yes, I am very salty. There's a lot more things I'd say about this person (none of them good), but it's not going to contribute to this thread in any meaningful way. Hopefully this is the last time I make such a post.
 
Alright, here's some recent vtuber (or mayber vtweeter?) lunacy I just noticed:

Local Twitter cringe commentator and chronicler VTuberCringe got into yet another slapfight with yet another recurring problem child of theirs, or so I'm assuming about the "recurring" portion given their responses.

Now, the fight itself (what little of it there actually is in the way of fighting) isn't the focus of why I'm highlighting this event, nor are the details surrounding it (as I personally could care less, but I wanted to link the responses anyway for those of you who do care to dig a little further into this matter).

No, the thing I wanted to call particular attention to in the litany of this Sister Rose's multiple, angry responses both to VTuberCringe and their his critics is, what I believe to be, the most Terminally Online™ response to a sensible suggestion I've ever seen.

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Now, I don't doubt for a minute that the rest of the Farms has likely seen worse feedback from more exceptional individuals over the years after they might've being told "Maybe you should stop doing the thing that's making you even more miserable and, instead, try to relax", but I still feel like this reply should earn some kind of award, or at the very least an honorable mention, for being a peak example of internet addiction and sheer lunacy on its own merits:

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So much so that it's also probably worth keeping an archived backup handy as well. Just for future reference. (Finally the goddamned hyperlink worked. Does KF not accept .is anymore?)
 
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Took a break from KF and I'm so fucking glad this thread came to fruition.

No really, the amount of times Vtubers have appeared on my news feed especially Youtube has been staggering. Watching maybe 3 vtuber videos already made me think that I've seen the "content" of the entire thing. It is an ugly ass fad that is infesting everywhere I go, even some of my friends keep talking about vtubers nonstop.

Between the Genshin-ification and the Vtuber-ification, we really are raising a generation of degenerates. I really desire the need for rope and bleach right now.

Also as a note: the Vtuber thread on KF is proof that the website seriously needs some gatekeeping. @Null fucking do it.
 
Took a break from KF and I'm so fucking glad this thread came to fruition.
No really, the amount of times Vtubers have appeared on my news feed especially Youtube has been staggering. Watching maybe 3 vtuber videos already made me think that I've seen the "content" of the entire thing. It is an ugly ass fad that is infesting everywhere I go, even some of my friends keep talking about vtubers nonstop.
Between the Genshin-ification and the Vtuber-ification, we really are raising a generation of degenerates. I really desire the need for rope and bleach right now.
Also as a note: the Vtuber thread on KF is proof that the website seriously needs some gatekeeping. @Null fucking do it.
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Took a break from KF and I'm so fucking glad this thread came to fruition.

No really, the amount of times Vtubers have appeared on my news feed especially Youtube has been staggering. Watching maybe 3 vtuber videos already made me think that I've seen the "content" of the entire thing. It is an ugly ass fad that is infesting everywhere I go, even some of my friends keep talking about vtubers nonstop.

Between the Genshin-ification and the Vtuber-ification, we really are raising a generation of degenerates. I really desire the need for rope and bleach right now.

Also as a note: the Vtuber thread on KF is proof that the website seriously needs some gatekeeping. @Null fucking do it.
Amen.
 
Nothingburger but figured some current events from /vt/ might be worth documenting. At some point during a long Minecraft stream with a bunch of the other Hololive girls present and also streaming, Hakos Baelz of Hololive English went afk for a moment, muted herself on stream but not on Discord (and she doesn't use push to talk or remember to leave the Discord channel apparently), so anyone else who was streaming at the time inadvertently transmitted her hot mic while she spoke with her mother in Cantonese:


Personally, I don't consider this a big deal, but of course all of those streams were taken down to be edited, which made some people upset.
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("Fauname", a ship name for Fauna + Ame, this poster is upset because Fauna and Ame were interacting and now they don't have the VOD to watch)
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Honestly this isn't anything world-shattering, the most people seem to be really upset about is the fact that the archived videos of the streams won't be up for a while because of it. But who knows, maybe it'll turn into something later on, or maybe people will be rational and just continue on with their lives once the edited stream archives are published.
 
Nothingburger but figured some current events from /vt/ might be worth documenting. At some point during a long Minecraft stream with a bunch of the other Hololive girls present and also streaming, Hakos Baelz of Hololive English went afk for a moment, muted herself on stream but not on Discord (and she doesn't use push to talk or remember to leave the Discord channel apparently), so anyone else who was streaming at the time inadvertently transmitted her hot mic while she spoke with her mother in Cantonese:


Personally, I don't consider this a big deal, but of course all of those streams were taken down to be edited, which made some people upset.
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("Fauname", a ship name for Fauna + Ame, this poster is upset because Fauna and Ame were interacting and now they don't have the VOD to watch)
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Honestly this isn't anything world-shattering, the most people seem to be really upset about is the fact that the archived videos of the streams won't be up for a while because of it. But who knows, maybe it'll turn into something later on, or maybe people will be rational and just continue on with their lives once the edited stream archives are published.
Some fans are really autistic and retarded. Imagine having no problems and finding problems for its sake. These people need to get a life.
 
Oooooookay wow, I just saw this get posted on /vt/ and jesus tittyfucking christ.

I'm sure everyone here has an idea of who Projekt Melody is. One of her gachikoi by the name of BetrayedMussel apparently has been going off the deep-end for quite a while.

BetrayedMussel's Twitlonger (archive)
BetrayedMussel's Imgur Album "Everything there was." (archive)

The Twitlonger and the Imgur Album are worth reading to if you're interested, but I will try to summarize as best as I can. Mussel found out about Melody's Chaturbate streams and became infatuated with her. He dropped a lot of money (a LOT of money) on her, and successfully established DM conversations with her. From there, he tried to suck up hard to her in order to earn her favor by being very forward about doing things for her. At one point they had discussed him sending Melody recordings of her streams, so she can put them on PornHub. Another guy was involved that contacted Melody first, Twitter handle OOCMelody, and Mussel became incredibly jealous.

Mussel ended up going on a downward spiral of mental instability where he claims he contemplated suicide, got rejected from at least 6 therapists, and in general continued to unload his baggage onto Melody. It eventually reached the point where Melody had him blocked damn near everywhere except for Discord DMs, but even at that point, she had stopped responding for several months.

I think Melody legitimately cared about his well-being and wanted him to go do his own thing and get well, but I think she got herself into a situation where she should have told this dude to fuck off but didn't. The Anon that made the thread for this subject said "Saw BetrayedMussel in Mel's CB stream today. Dropped 500 tokens and was instantly silenced. Didn't notice any acknowledgement from Mel, or chat, but it got me curious. Went looking into him again and found this."

I consider this to be a worst-case-scenario level of fan. Completely obsessed to the point of losing grip on reality. People like this are dangerous, I can only imagine what would happen if he had Melody's address; this person strikes me as someone who would not only happily pull an unannounced visit to try and vent his emotions because he "has to make it up to her", but he very clearly has the funding to do so were the information to become available to him. Dangerous. I genuinely fear for anyone he has a relationship with in the future, if that even happens.
 
Saw this on Reddit, Someone in UC Berkeley has been putting vtuber shit there. (1st pic s/a)(2nd pic s/a)
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Chumbud anon taking matters into his own hands by being a schizo to fight the schizos.
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Here's my shitty attempt at a collage on a few posts that caught my eye on one of the general threads. The title speaks for its self.

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And finally, IMO probably one of the most disgusting and horrifying things I've seen is that someone out there has a life-size homemade Gura doll.
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Saw this on Reddit, Someone in UC Berkeley has been putting vtuber shit there. (1st pic s/a)(2nd pic s/a)
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Chumbud anon taking matters into his own hands by being a schizo to fight the schizos.
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Here's my shitty attempt at a collage on a few posts that caught my eye on one of the general threads. The title speaks for its self.

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And finally, IMO probably one of the most disgusting and horrifying things I've seen is that someone out there has a life-size homemade Gura doll.
>posting Hachaama to distract from commie revolution cringe
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Alright, here's some recent vtuber (or mayber vtweeter?) lunacy I just noticed:

Local Twitter cringe commentator and chronicler VTuberCringe got into yet another slapfight with yet another recurring problem child of theirs, or so I'm assuming about the "recurring" portion given their responses.

Now, the fight itself (what little of it there actually is in the way of fighting) isn't the focus of why I'm highlighting this event, nor are the details surrounding it (as I personally could care less, but I wanted to link the responses anyway for those of you who do care to dig a little further into this matter).

No, the thing I wanted to call particular attention to in the litany of this Sister Rose's multiple, angry responses both to VTuberCringe and their his critics is, what I believe to be, the most Terminally Online™ response to a sensible suggestion I've ever seen.

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Now, I don't doubt for a minute that the rest of the Farms has likely seen worse feedback from more exceptional individuals over the years after they might've being told "Maybe you should stop doing the thing that's making you even more miserable and, instead, try to relax", but I still feel like this reply should earn some kind of award, or at the very least an honorable mention, for being a peak example of internet addiction and sheer lunacy on its own merits:

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So much so that it's also probably worth keeping an archived backup handy as well. Just for future reference. (Finally the goddamned hyperlink worked. Does KF not accept .is anymore?)
The main thing I remember from this Sister Rose person was when they started adding random users who criticized them onto a list that said something like "is a danger to trans people" as if they were making some kind of statement.

The list has long since been deleted now and I didn't take a screenshot so you'll have to just take my word for it but I do remember it happening.
 
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