Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[Medicinal Molduga]

I'm glad to see Olly is peak transing more people. However, don't delude yourself. Contrapoints is also an autogynephile degenerate who hates women and whose "intellectual" videos are just endless narcissism and strawmanning with some costumes and dramatic lighting. Check out Contra's thread. He was joke tweeting about exploiting little girls "to get diamonds out of his cave" (whatever the fuck that means) just today (tweet now deleted) . They are the same kind of pervert. Except Contra feels more authentic because he got there first, and showed his cross-dressing on camera before he started medical transition. Olly observed that the business model worked, and jumped directly into it. He's so dumb he doesn't realize that with Contra's model comes Contra's unhappiness and alcohol and drug abuse to cope (but he will find out eventually). Olly's the supermarket-label Contra: a lazy, cheap version of an originally bad product. That's where the differences end.

 

[AssignedEva]

how nice of him to take a break from assaulting the English language to mangle the French.

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Looks like Tolstoy reference incest lady is back.

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none of them had any damning complaints
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Ok I am now very excited for this video. The point of that character is to be a straw man columnist who hates the "woke brigade".
If Ollie makes a video where he's on screen pretending to be Islamaphobic it's going to cause him issues, because one of the bigger rules of the SocJus world is that "ironic racism is still racism". It's fine for him to larp as a TERF because he's trans, but a white person doing a bit as an Islamaphobe is going to go down like a sack of bricks. It doesn't matter that he's doing it in the pursuit of communicating the opposite message, he'll be savaged for his tone deafness.

Holy shit Olly is actually right for once????!
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Of course he treats women's worries over men self-identifying as women as nothing more than a punchline.

For our international friends: this is especially egregious because that discussion is in the context of the Sarah Everard murder.

Wayne Couzens was a real police officer - nicknamed "The Rapist" by even senior Met officials because everyone knew he was dodgy, and who shared a bunch of virulently misogynistic messages with colleagues over WhatsApp, and who'd been exposing himself to women - who approached Sarah in Clapham (South London), told her she was under arrest for breaking lockdown, showed her his police warrant card and handcuffed her. He then drove her out to rural Kent where he raped her and then strangled that poor woman to death.

Everyone is HORRIFIED by this. It's been compounded by the Met Police telling women that if they're approached by a plain clothes police officer they should try "shouting out to a passerby, running into a house, knocking on a door, waving a bus down or, if you are in the position to do so, calling 999" (obviously a bad idea if it's a real copper because that's resisting arrest).

Ollie capitalising on this to make a flippant point about trans rights is disgusting. Genuinely MATI.

 

[esmeggs]

For our international friends: this is especially egregious because that discussion is in the context of the Sarah Everard murder.

Wayne Couzens was a real police officer - nicknamed "The Rapist" by even senior Met officials because everyone knew he was dodgy, and who shared a bunch of virulently misogynistic messages with colleagues over WhatsApp, and who'd been exposing himself to women - who approached Sarah in Clapham (South London), told her she was under arrest for breaking lockdown, showed her his police warrant card and handcuffed her. He then drove her out to rural Kent where he raped her and then strangled that poor woman to death.

Everyone is HORRIFIED by this. It's been compounded by the Met Police telling women that if they're approached by a plain clothes police officer they should try "shouting out to a passerby, running into a house, knocking on a door, waving a bus down or, if you are in the position to do so, calling 999" (obviously a bad idea if it's a real copper because that's resisting arrest).

Ollie capitalising on this to make a flippant point about trans rights is disgusting. Genuinely MATI.

I didn't know the greater context of that tweet, that makes Olly's joke far more repulsive than I thought. To know a woman went through that and then try to further your political agenda by making some moronic joke about how women should fear police violence rather than male violence? Genuinely disgusting.

Here's the earlier tweets from Mia Mulder in that thread, if people wanted a little more context:

And the replies to Olly's joke, no one taking any issue with it:

ETA- he looks especially male here my god

 

[The Emperor Skeksis]

Ok I am now very excited for this video. The point of that character is to be a straw man columnist who hates the "woke brigade".
If Ollie makes a video where he's on screen pretending to be Islamaphobic it's going to cause him issues, because one of the bigger rules of the SocJus world is that "ironic racism is still racism". It's fine for him to larp as a TERF because he's trans, but a white person doing a bit as an Islamaphobe is going to go down like a sack of bricks. It doesn't matter that he's doing it in the pursuit of communicating the opposite message, he'll be savaged for his tone deafness.

For our international friends: this is especially egregious because that discussion is in the context of the Sarah Everard murder.

Wayne Couzens was a real police officer - nicknamed "The Rapist" by even senior Met officials because everyone knew he was dodgy, and who shared a bunch of virulently misogynistic messages with colleagues over WhatsApp, and who'd been exposing himself to women - who approached Sarah in Clapham (South London), told her she was under arrest for breaking lockdown, showed her his police warrant card and handcuffed her. He then drove her out to rural Kent where he raped her and then strangled that poor woman to death.

Everyone is HORRIFIED by this. It's been compounded by the Met Police telling women that if they're approached by a plain clothes police officer they should try "shouting out to a passerby, running into a house, knocking on a door, waving a bus down or, if you are in the position to do so, calling 999" (obviously a bad idea if it's a real copper because that's resisting arrest).

Ollie capitalising on this to make a flippant point about trans rights is disgusting. Genuinely MATI.

Couzens is what Olly secretly wants to be but because he's too much of a skinnyfat coward he settles for being a misogynist pig on the internet. Make no mistake, Olly is the type of guy who would rape a girl or worse if he thought he could get away with it. One of the worst cows on the farm.

 

[scathefire]

I know I'm in the minority here by disliking Contra more than PT, but I think it's almost entirely because men who identify as lesbians are by the far the most repulsive type of troon to me. Speaking of which, PT hasn't talked about his bisexuality in a long, long while, almost certainly because the attention he could potentially garner from that is completely eclipsed by his transness now.

 

[Boris Blank's glass eye]

I'm a Central European (lol Europoor Eurocuck) male of mixed - all white and/or white-passing, depending on how you view Slavs - heritage. That out of the way I must say I dislike both Hontra and Olly equally, albeit for different reasons.

Hontra occasionally makes a good point or two, and his videos have some substance - something Olly lacks - but his presentation disgusts me. His frequent scene/costume switches are mostly self-serving wankfests that actually do have a point every once in a while. He also sees and views himself in a more realistic and honest way. While he does spread a lot of harmful retardation I don't really see him getting physical with anyone.

Olly is a complete mockery and is appropriating everything he is seen advocating for - tranny causes, LGB causes, intersex causes, women's causes, disenfranchised precariat stuck without health service causes. His ROGD and subsequent troon-out is extremely suspicious, his awkward fumbling and bumbling around in those high-heels would be far more at home in a comedy sketch than a puportedly serious presentation about, well, anything at all. His videos are all style without substance, and while his fashion sense might be better than it appears, he still manages to dress in completely unflattering ways. He's also dishonest in all this - Hontra might be a deranged pervert but at least he's honest in that while Olly is just a pretender without any earnesty - the mask of femininity or transness often slips and he comes off as a pervert caught red- white-handed. I can see him getting physical with a "bloody TERF" and he's built for that kind of thing. I can't really tell if he's deliberately misrepresenting his material or if he's that dumb.

 

[Icterus]

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I don't know what you're talking about. Abe looks fantastic in this shot. Can't wait for the new vid!

 

[narcissistic injury]

I know I'm in the minority here by disliking Contra more than PT, but I think it's almost entirely because men who identify as lesbians are by the far the most repulsive type of troon to me. Speaking of which, PT hasn't talked about his bisexuality in a long, long while, almost certainly because the attention he could potentially garner from that is completely eclipsed by his transness now.

He stated in a recent livestream that lesbian is a more appropriate label for him now

 

[Tombigbee]

He looks GOD AWFUL in those pics, I love it! I thought he would never top the London Pride Wonder Woman getup for sheer hilarity but my man is delivering quality lolcow content. Can’t wait for the video!!!

 

[AssignedEva]

Meine Damen und Herren, Mesdames et Messieurs, Ladies and Gentlemen! Guden Abend, bon soir, we geht's? Comment ça va? Do you feel good?
I bet you do!

Ich bin euer Confrecier; je suis votre compere... I am your host!

 

[scathefire]

He stated in a recent livestream that lesbian is a more appropriate label for him now

LMAO, so he's back to being a straight male. Really makes you think.

 

[Tranimal Farm]

LMAO, so he's back to being a straight male. Really makes you think.

if you believe the theory that Olly's transition was just a vain attempt to be transbians with Hontra then he never really changed

 

[Dr George Whitebread]

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Fucking Blues Brother in drag.

 

[Itterasshai]

The plot twist with the obsessive fan turning out to be an actual female with Turner syndrome is amusing but not surprising. Never believed that account was PT’s sock puppet. Not only because I did not find the evidence particularly strong, but also because PT does not strike me as the kind of person to bicker online.

Many users in this thread have noted that PT appears plastic and manufactured, and I think this is because PT cares about public image. In a sense, PT behaves like an old-school celebrity. Shrewd, and it works out: PT is not really entertaining to follow because there is no drama, no scandal, no public breakdown.

 

[Futaba]

Seeing the preview shots for the new vid is a bit disappointing. Where is a rendition of "steady as she goes" sung by two ollys one in liberal western female clothes the other one in a burka?


I saw people on twitter saying that its giving them Annie Lennox vibes. For me its giving Agent Smith wearing a little bit of eye shadow. Man, Freud would have an absolute field day with whats going on right now

 

[ooooooooookie]

PT is not really entertaining to follow because there is no drama, no scandal, no public breakdown.

It's true, he's definitely the most boring of the bunch. I think most of us are just curious about his lack of self-awareness, which is pretty funny to see.

 

[AssignedEva]

I saw people on twitter saying that its giving them Annie Lennox vibes.

Annie Lennox isn't even a particularly masculine looking woman, she just had short hair.

The only sense in which you could compare Annie Lennox to Ollie is the music video to Beethoven where she pretends to be a middle class housewife getting possessed by a drag queen and turning into an AGP fever dream:

 

[aanoo]

doesn’t care about the issues or the causes, he cares about himself and his image only.

Spoiler: Powerlevel excuse me

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LMAO, so he's back to being a straight male. Really makes you think.

Him coming out as bi really seemed clout chasing to me at the time. He didn’t talk about being into men at all, just ~girldick~ and went on about how significant the Lesbian Avengers were to him. I couldn’t figure out how the fuck they had any relevance to this bi dude tbh, and even when he was presenting that way he seemed like a straight dude with a lesbian fetish tbh.

 

[Tranimal Farm]

Many users in this thread have noted that PT appears plastic and manufactured, and I think this is because PT cares about public image. In a sense, PT behaves like an old-school celebrity. Shrewd, and it works out: PT is not really entertaining to follow because there is no drama, no scandal, no public breakdown.

someone who chose a career path where they literally get paid to be someone they're not coming across as fake and gay, who'da thunk.

And you're right, Olly is really only interesting because of his failed love quest with Contrapoints.

 

[Anteaters R Cute]

I didn't know the greater context of that tweet, that makes Olly's joke far more repulsive than I thought. To know a woman went through that and then try to further your political agenda by making some moronic joke about how women should fear police violence rather than male violence? Genuinely disgusting.

Here's the earlier tweets from Mia Mulder in that thread, if people wanted a little more context:
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And the replies to Olly's joke, no one taking any issue with it:
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As an ex-tranny, I can tell you with confidence that once the dysphoria hits a certain point of no return, you will actually look into the mirror and begin to see opposite-sex characteristics where there are none. The delusion becomes real.

You can really tell it’s hitting Olly with how confidently he poses, how he stares at the camera, all that high production quality. You just know he stares and jerks off to these pictures because when he sees his face he sees the hottest bitch who can pull off androgynous clothing because he passes so well. Unlike all those other poor transwomyn who are ugly and clockable and can’t be caught in pants for the rest of their life!

And the rest of us, outside the delusion, just see a man in a suit. With thin male lips, male ears, male nose, male jaw… and beady male eyes.

thank you Olly for being the gift that keeps on giving.