Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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I wonder if it might be too little too late for Adams to distance himself from DeBlasio?
I'm not sure what "too little, too late" means in this context. Could you explain it better please?

Because Adams already won the primary. The NYC mayor in January is either going to be Adams or a Republican. And we KNOW it won't be the Republican.
 
I'm not sure what "too little, too late" means in this context. Could you explain it better please?

Because Adams already won the primary. The NYC mayor in January is either going to be Adams or a Republican. And we KNOW it won't be the Republican.
I thought DeBlasio damaged enough the Dems for this year despite then all dead people had come voting for Dems.
 
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I thought DeBlasio damaged enough the Dems for this year despite then all dead people had come voting for Dems.
I mean, damaged in the sense that anyone that can leave NYC probably is going to. But as far as losing the general mayoral election and having a Republican mayor, lolnope. The "racism" is too ingrained for that now.
 
Imagine if in the US, we’d distributed - early on before any treatments were available - just the kit with a pulse ox (I bought one for every bathroom and every vehicle), a thermometer, and high dose Vitamin D and such. Things would be so different.




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Effective early treatment protocols were pretty much good to go as soon as we knew that SARS Cov-2 was the kissing cousin of SARS Cov-1. An anti-inflammatory of some kind combined with a protease inhibitor and an antibiotic to prevent opportunistic bacterial infection. There was a shit ton of research done on this during and after the SARS outbreak. The trick is to start treatment at the earliest signs of symptomatic disease.

You'll note that anyone advocating early treatment protocols was immediately painted as a dangerous quack even before we had the magic vaccines. People suffering Covid were simply told to go home and to wait until they turned blue and then go to hospital where they'd be shoved on a ventilator and killed. You want to try HCQ? Low dose steroids? ZPAC? Zinc and Vitamin D? Ivermectin! What are you? A lunatic Trump supporter? That shit will kill you!!

They wanted a high death count. They didn't want anything interfering with vaccines gaining an EUA. As of now we must wait until big pharma decides to release some Ivermectin knock off that won't work as well before they'll allow ordinary people to have access to early treatment that the Indians have been providing for pennies.
 
Just to have it archived in this thread.

I love the people in the comments desperately trying to claim that "she said it doesn't PREVENT it, but it does REDUCE it."

No, that is you putting words in her mouth. If it reduces transmission, she would have said that.

 
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The UK third wave has now lasted for 4 months and is far larger than the first 2.

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Death count remains low. The UK has close to 100% antibody coverage, either from natural immunity or the vaccines.

By the end of this winter they'll have achieved natural herd immunity and the coof will be another annoying cold bug that occasionally kills an old person.

Anyone, excepting 90 year old nursing home patients and ham planets, taking a booster is a literal dumb nigger.

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Israel has suffered through it's worst infection spike of the entire pandemic, having double dosed pretty much everyone and rolled out boosters to half the population.
Reminder, the vaccines don't fucking work
Case numbers are falling but are not tapering off to near zero, a marked difference from the previous two spikes.

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Mortality rates are significantly higher than the UK. Are the mRNA vaccines less effective at preventing serious illness than the Adenovector? Or are they enhancing illness? The Delta variant is up to 50 times less virulent than the wild Wuhan strain, so I'm thinking it's the second option. I guess we should remind ourselves that Israel is now one of the least vaccinated countries on the planet as you need to have had 3 doses to count.

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Ah Iceland, the small homogeneous nation with near 100% vaccine coverage using the J&J.

Having experienced by far the largest infection wave of the entire pandemic it's government has decided that the vaccines are total shit and to let nature do it's thing.

The UK, Iceland, Norway, Denmark, nations that have realised that natural herd immunity is the only way to be rid of the coof and so are adopting the Swedish model. Remember them?

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Irresponsible, crazy Sweden who refused to do lockdowns. Crazy bastards, bet they regret that now.
 

Drain Todger have you read Denninger's post regarding Merk's anti-Covid drug?



He thinks it's similar to Thalidomide and will cause mutagenic disease.

I've noted a big push to get pregnant women to take the jabs as they're supposedly at high risk from the dreaded Delta.

I remember last year, when the far more virulent Wuhan and Alpha strains were dominant, that no one was claiming that pregnant women were at higher risk from Covid.
Which makes sense given pregnancy boosts the immune system.
This is the reason, for example, that women suffering MS will usually go into remission during and after pregnancy.
But I guess the Delta is somehow different or I misremembered last year's narrative.

What gives? Are they planning to push this crap onto expecting mothers? Are they that evil?
 

What gives? Are they planning to push this crap onto expecting mothers? Are they that evil?

They’re dedicated to forcing this onto the entire population, by any means necessary. How is “THINK OF THE CHILLUNS!” any different than “YOU’RE KILLING GRANDMA!” or “GOD WANTS YOU TO TAKE THE SHOT!”?
 
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The government isn't mind controlling you with telephone antennae. The whole graphene thing looks more like a result of the piss-poor quality control they've applied to these things than any conspiratorial attempt to mindfuck the population into passive obedience.

20 years from now, this is going to be looked back on as possibly the greatest medical scandal of the 21st century, because it's a never-ending shitshow of ideologically-driven incompetence and propaganda, not the outcome of some grand conspiracy about the great reset, but rather brought about by a bunch of panicked retards who couldn't admit that they massively over-reacted to a relatively benign threat. The mind control bollocks makes everything else easily dismissed by association.

Not that I want to discourage @Drain Todger digging further into the schizo shit. He might find something fun.
 
@Meriasek

Graphene can only exhibit ferromagnetism when it has certain defects and topological properties, other than that it's inherently nonmagnetic.

Graphene is not nonmagnetic. It is paramagnetic.



There are ways of inducing magnetism in nanomaterials with the right dopants. For the longest time, I wanted to do a home PVD sputtering machine with a vacuum chamber and everything because - and this is going to sound highly American - I wanted a way to conveniently plate gun parts with shit like titanium nitride. The more I dug into it, the more I realized it was a bitch and a half to do. Might still do it one day, though.

5G wavelengths can't penetrate even the skin, so boom, what good does it do?

The 5G bandplan has a 600 MHz "low band" for IOT and various other things. That definitely would penetrate deep into the tissues.

Penetrating wavelengths can't really be absorbed by such tiny antennae, and it can't be focused as easily.

Again, you are not considering the possibility of self-assembly.


 
Looks like over 700,000 Americans have died from the Chinese flu since all this shit started eighteen months ago.




And over 285,000 of these deaths happened since Joey and his regime came to power.



In 2020, the American Cancer Society estimates 606, 520 Americans died from cancer.



For 2021, the ACS estimates 608, 570 deaths from cancer.




Very interesting items from the Journal of the American Medical Association with 2020 death statistics, by cause. About 1.3 million Americans died from cancer and heart disease in 2020. We can expect that many or more in 2021. Note the number of deaths from heart disease goes up every year.




When you take a few minutes to dig out the real numbers, once again we see the real killers of Americans. Yet we don't fuck up our country to stop the spread of and treat heart disease/cancer, do we?


ALL political control, folks. Time to cop to reality and just offer a Chinese flu shot yearly, just like for the "regular" flu.
 
@Meriasek



Graphene is not nonmagnetic. It is paramagnetic.



There are ways of inducing magnetism in nanomaterials with the right dopants. For the longest time, I wanted to do a home PVD sputtering machine with a vacuum chamber and everything because - and this is going to sound highly American - I wanted a way to conveniently plate gun parts with shit like titanium nitride. The more I dug into it, the more I realized it was a bitch and a half to do. Might still do it one day, though.



The 5G bandplan has a 600 MHz "low band" for IOT and various other things. That definitely would penetrate deep into the tissues.



Again, you are not considering the possibility of self-assembly.


As I said, graphene properties depend heavily on dopants. Graphene oxide is paramagnetic, but graphene isn't, it's mostly diamagnetic. You need a very careful setup for inducing the right amount of defects to get these effects. Also, note that it's spin-paramagnetism. This is the kind of stuff that only appears at low temperatures, and we're talking millikelvin ranges here. Most of the funny properties of graphene only appear at that temperature. Shit, I found a new insulating phase in graphene under high magnetic fields, but you need several teslas of magnetic field and temperatures around 20 mK in a dilution fridge to see those effects.
Funny enough, you can make graphene via CVD processes pretty easily. The expert guys in my old university group started with that in high school, and I'm pretty sure one of them is now a leading expert on CVD graphene because they figured out how to make CVD graphene actually good (as in, on par with exfoliated graphene).
But the thing is that none of the properties of graphene are really all that noticable at room temperature anyway. Graphene flakes in all the bodily fluids at body temperatures? It's basically just graphite, so diamagnetic.
I wote my MSc thesis on magnetic effects on graphene, I know a thing or two on the physics here. Shit's not that simple with these materials.

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As for the wavelengths, 600 MHz is a wavelength of half a meter. You'd need some big-ass self-assembly for that. And then you get a penetration depth of probably around 15 mm or so in tissue, but you gotta consider the skull here.
Not to mention that "self-assembly" isn't some magic trick where tiny nanobots just build something complex perfectly. It's more like nanoparticles reacting according to their changed surface tensions and parameters with each other, which is not something you can easily control if you want something other than "clump up" or "form lines". In a very uncontrollable area like THE BRAIN, coming from bulk material like a vaccine dose? Nah.
Seriously dude, don't get caught up in this. It's fun stuff and certainly interesting and you should read more about because of that, but in the end it's not helping your paper.
 
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As I said, graphene properties depend heavily on dopants. Graphene oxide is paramagnetic, but graphene isn't, it's mostly diamagnetic. You need a very careful setup for inducing the right amount of defects to get these effects. Also, note that it's spin-paramagnetism. This is the kind of stuff that only appears at low temperatures, and we're talking millikelvin ranges here. Most of the funny properties of graphene only appear at that temperature. Shit, I found a new insulating phase in graphene under high magnetic fields, but you need several teslas of magnetic field and temperatures around 20 mK in a dilution fridge to see those effects.
Funny enough, you can make graphene via CVD processes pretty easily. The expert guys in my old university group started with that in high school, and I'm pretty sure one of them is now a leading expert on CVD graphene because they figured out how to make CVD graphene actually good (as in, on par with exfoliated graphene).
But the thing is that none of the properties of graphene are really all that noticable at room temperature anyway. Graphene flakes in all the bodily fluids at body temperatures? It's basically just graphite, so diamagnetic.
I wote my MSc thesis on magnetic effects on graphene, I know a thing or two on the physics here. Shit's not that simple with these materials.

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As for the wavelengths, 600 MHz is a wavelength of half a meter. You'd need some big-ass self-assembly for that. And then you get a penetration depth of probably around 15 mm or so in tissue, but you gotta consider the skull here.
Not to mention that "self-assembly" isn't some magic trick where tiny nanobots just build something complex perfectly. It's more like nanoparticles reacting according to their changed surface tensions and parameters with each other, which is not something you can easily control if you want something other than "clump up" or "form lines". In a very uncontrollable area like THE BRAIN, coming from bulk material like a vaccine dose? Nah.
Seriously dude, don't get caught up in this. It's fun stuff and certainly interesting and you should read more about because of that, but in the end it's not helping your paper.
Maybe you’re right. Maybe I do have a bit of a fixation on this.

It is eerie, though, how closely linked Charles Lieber, Robert Langer, DARPA, Moderna, and research facilities in Wuhan all are. The paper trail lines up in a way that is rather disturbing.

The real tech seems somehow both far-off and just around the corner. It makes one wonder what kind of classified things they’re working on in military labs.




Like I said, in the near future, the assembly of novel nanostructures in the body may be guided by synthetic proteins not found in nature. The combination of nanoparticle engineering with peptide doping enables all sorts of possible configurations of material. Synthetic biology really creeps me the hell out, for a number of reasons. Like, what if someone accidentally makes a self-replicating pathogen that evades the immune system completely and ignores antibiotics? Something that just melts people into goo over the course of a few agonizing weeks?

There’s a legend on SB where a guy came up with a concept for an artificial organism that turns living matter into plastic, and then, he disappeared completely shortly afterward.


People always joked that the glowies kidnapped him and made him work on secret projects. :story:
 
WTF? Now I'm not saying Hitler wasn't a degenerate, but more the 'confirmed bachelor' type. That sounds like the Holocoasters and the lampshades and the 20 million who got gassed at Auschwitz. Jew propaganda is easy to spot as they always go way, way over the top.
Maybe..ive never thoroughly dived into the claims it could be revisionist nonsense but again scat and piss play is a not a strange thing in german sexual history. No its probably not normal but some did it.

There is a reason alot of dookie porn comes from germany and has been made fun of for years in american culture (even before the internet)

This is from 1998 for example

 
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Maybe you’re right. Maybe I do have a bit of a fixation on this.

It is eerie, though, how closely linked Charles Lieber, Robert Langer, DARPA, Moderna, and research facilities in Wuhan all are. The paper trail lines up in a way that is rather disturbing.

The real tech seems somehow both far-off and just around the corner. It makes one wonder what kind of classified things they’re working on in military labs.




Like I said, in the near future, the assembly of novel nanostructures in the body may be guided by synthetic proteins not found in nature. The combination of nanoparticle engineering with peptide doping enables all sorts of possible configurations of material. Synthetic biology really creeps me the hell out, for a number of reasons. Like, what if someone accidentally makes a self-replicating pathogen that evades the immune system completely and ignores antibiotics? Something that just melts people into goo over the course of a few agonizing weeks?

There’s a legend on SB where a guy came up with a concept for an artificial organism that turns living matter into plastic, and then, he disappeared completely shortly afterward.


People always joked that the glowies kidnapped him and made him work on secret projects. :story:
I worked on the cutting edge when it comes to public knowledge; but unless graphene is somehow entirely different to what the public knows the technology in military labs is not significantly further because the physics with this stuff really is that much of a bitch. It all sounds nice on paper, but the devil is in the details.
Like, sure, carbon nanotubes have a tensile strength many times that of steel, right? We could build a space elevator with that! Well, yes, but actually, no. Those nanotubes have that property when there are no defects and with the proper chirality. You're gonna need to fabricate millions of miles of perfect carbon nanotubes and somehow bundle them together. Heard of those super fast transistors made out of other carbon nanotubes (cuz graphene is a semimetal and has some nasty quantum mechanical properties that prevent it from being used for transistors all that easily, you might wanna use certain types of nanotubes instead)? They basically grew nanotubes on a surface stochastically and picked out the few that suited the role. That's self-assembly in reality. And that's the reality of carbon nanomaterials. Great on paper, but the reality is far less glamorous.
Guiding stuff by proteins is nice and all, but there's nanomaterials and then there's nanomaterials. Graphene is a single atomic layer, and it's properties depend on just a few atoms being out of place or not. While peptids and so on could be great there, you gotta consider also the sheer binding energy required in disassembling and assembling these materials. You gotta break up these very strong sp2 hybrid bonds, which isn't exactly easy, hence the extreme tensile strength.
Again, don't focus too much on that stuff. It just takes away from the rest of the paper. People already dismiss it because of this shit.
 
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