US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Gehenna]

USA Goals: Save South Korea, maybe reconquer North Korea.
CCP Goals: Drive Amerifats off the Korean peninsula so they can't build air bases to strike Beijing.

Results: USA looses some dudes, tries and fails to take NK. South Korea still stands. CCP looses their entire PLA Army Group North, the only guys they had trained in amphibious warfare AKA the guys they were going to use to take Taiwan. USA Air bases are established. Mao's son gets killed, putting his succession plans into disarray.

The Korean War is a case of "one side lost on the books, but both sides lost overall".

 

[Michael Wade]

I don't really know what they could do other than stupid human wave tactics, all of their armaments suck & their soldiers are spoiled only children with no survivalist experience & are absurdly unhealthy even by American standards. It doesn't help that they're tiny compared to regular Americans, & if you think 5'8" is a manlet then what are your thoughts on 5'4"?

Nukes. Yes, I really do think they are that stupid. They have a childish mentality about Taiwan, and if they cant have it, then no one should.

Also remember, they seem pretty good at hacking and taking shit down, not to mention a shit ton of collaborators over here. They have plans, and I very much doubt they are conventional, Think about the Betrayal scene in Dune and you've got a pretty good idea of how I think this is going to start.

 

[Gehenna]

Nukes. Yes, I really do think they are that stupid. They have a childish mentality about Taiwan, and if they cant have it, then no one should.

Also remember, they seem pretty good at hacking and taking shit down, not to mention a shit ton of collaborators over here. They have plans, and I very much doubt they are conventional, Think about the Betrayal scene in Dune and you've got a pretty good idea of how I think this is going to start.

The thing with nukes is that they don't just magically appear. You need to drop it in from a bomber, and there will be a -lot- of eyes in the air looking for it.

Addendum: Drop it from a bomber to have any chance of actually working. Short-range missile interdiction isn't... terribly difficult, just ask Israel. Knock it out of the air, and the chance of it performing the precise series of actions to sustain a nuclear blast is rather slim.

Also, enjoy the simultaneous invasions from India and Russia, both who suddenly have a carte blanche casus belli to fuck China's shit for daring to use nuclear weapons.

 

[Kane Lives]

The thing with nukes is that they don't just magically appear. You need to drop it in from a bomber, and there will be a -lot- of eyes in the air looking for it.

Addendum: Drop it from a bomber to have any chance of actually working. Short-range missile interdiction isn't... terribly difficult, just ask Israel. Knock it out of the air, and the chance of it performing the precise series of actions to sustain a nuclear blast is rather slim.

Also, enjoy the simultaneous invasions from India and Russia, both who suddenly have a carte blanche casus belli to fuck China's shit for daring to use nuclear weapons.

Not even getting into how the smaller nations would most definitely be spooked by this, and the immediate embargo that would result, even if they won't send boots on the ground. The Middle Kingdom is already food and resource insecure enough as it is.

Basically, if they went hot, the PRC gets fucked, hard.

 

[Gehenna]

Not even getting into how the smaller nations would most definitely be spooked by this, and the immediate embargo that would result, even if they won't send boots on the ground. The Middle Kingdom is already food and resource insecure enough as it is.

Basically, if they went hot, the PRC gets fucked, hard.

Them attacking Taiwan is going to happen, eventually. That isn't a realpolitik issue it's a pride issue, a wounded pride issue. They just won't do anything that leads to their certain destruction... like dropping a nuke onto Taiwan. They'd absolutely do it if they thought they'd get a way with it, but there is no way that they would.

 

[Michael Wade]

The thing with nukes is that they don't just magically appear. You need to drop it in from a bomber, and there will be a -lot- of eyes in the air looking for it.

Addendum: Drop it from a bomber to have any chance of actually working. Short-range missile interdiction isn't... terribly difficult, just ask Israel. Knock it out of the air, and the chance of it performing the precise series of actions to sustain a nuclear blast is rather slim.

Also, enjoy the simultaneous invasions from India and Russia, both who suddenly have a carte blanche casus belli to fuck China's shit for daring to use nuclear weapons.

Something is going to happen. There will never be a better time for china. We are at our weakest leadership wise, they are obsessed with being the top dog, and they will roll the dice for a chance at supremacy.


I feel something is going to happen soon.

 

[Gehenna]

Something is going to happen. There will never be a better time for china. We are at our weakest leadership wise, they are obsessed with being the top dog, and they will roll the dice for a chance at supremacy.


I feel something is going to happen soon.

I need to stress that taking Taiwan has nothing to do with supremacy. In fact, it's steadily draining their resources and limiting their abilities. China feels, to its very core, the pain of the Century of Humiliation. Their pride, their very sense of self-worth, is damaged by that century. Taiwan stands as the most iconic example of it, its continued existence an agony every day it continues.

 

[Corn Flakes]

The thing with nukes is that they don't just magically appear. You need to drop it in from a bomber, and there will be a -lot- of eyes in the air looking for it.

Addendum: Drop it from a bomber to have any chance of actually working. Short-range missile interdiction isn't... terribly difficult, just ask Israel. Knock it out of the air, and the chance of it performing the precise series of actions to sustain a nuclear blast is rather slim.

Also, enjoy the simultaneous invasions from India and Russia, both who suddenly have a carte blanche casus belli to fuck China's shit for daring to use nuclear weapons.

Just an addendum to make China a little more understandable:

Always keep in mind that the highest priority of the Chinese Communist Party is to ensure the survival of the Chinese Communist Party. They will make no decision that seriously risks or ensures their extinction as a power structure. The Chinese government may be petty, vindictive, ruthless, corrupt and inhuman, but it isn't suicidal. Any masturbatory fantasies about China making the first move with a large military operation while they rely so much on food imports are just that: fantasy. The moment the missiles start flying in a situation like that is the moment all those cargo ships delivering rice and meat to China turn into submarines.

They're much more likely to try to invent some "righteous" casus belli or do a false-flag operation to give them an "excuse" to go there. Or just wait until an earthquake or some other large natural disaster strikes the island and then helpfully "offer" to send aid while already landing people on the beaches.

 

[Gehenna]

Just an addendum to make China a little more understandable:

Always keep in mind that the highest priority of the Chinese Communist Party is to ensure the survival of the Chinese Communist Party. They will make no decision that seriously risks or ensure their extinction as a power structure. The Chinese government may be petty, vindictive, ruthless, corrupt and inhuman, but it isn't suicidal. Any masturbatory fantasies about China making the first move with a large military operation while they rely so much on food imports. The moment the missiles start flying in a situation like that is the moment all those cargo ships delivering rice and meat to China turn into submarines.

They're much more likely to try to invent some "righteous" casus belli or do a false-flag operation to give them an "excuse" to go there. Or just wait until an earthquake or some other large natural disaster strikes the island and then helpfully "offer" to send aid while already landing people on the beaches.

I agree and disagree. Taiwan in particular extends past their sensibilities. It's too painful for them. But they won't attack it in a way that is doomed to failure, or through methods that would doom them. What you describe is how they would prefer to do it, but Taiwan has made clear none of those are going to happen and thus China's only recourse is war.

The hope, on their part, is to make it such a quick and clean war that the export issue is largely a non-issue. So they will attack when they think they can somehow do it quickly.

 

[Vaclav]

Nukes. Yes, I really do think they are that stupid. They have a childish mentality about Taiwan, and if they cant have it, then no one should.

Also remember, they seem pretty good at hacking and taking shit down, not to mention a shit ton of collaborators over here. They have plans, and I very much doubt they are conventional, Think about the Betrayal scene in Dune and you've got a pretty good idea of how I think this is going to start.

Something I've wondered... the West Coast cities are getting increasingly woke and insane to the point of having many elected officials who vocally support communism. The ports are controlled by woke unions and the woke local government. Many of these groups vocally support China and then there's the matter of the large populations of Chinese in those areas.

What if the local governments in, say, Portland, Seattle and San Francisco conspired to have thousands of PLA troopers brought over on container ships to occupy each city? The police forces in the cities have been cut to the bone and wouldn't stand a chance against such an invading force. Sneaking them in through the ports would allow them to take over without drawing attention from the military. The invasion could take place over a night where they roll all the troops along with tanks, artillery pieces and anti-air batteries out of shipping vessels and quickly take over the cities; they would have plenty of time to plan all this out.

The PLA could effectively make each city a massive military base with the residents used as human shields. It would be impossible to shell or bombard them without killing hundreds of US civilians. The Chinese troops wouldn't be able to take much ground beyond the cities because they would be blasted if they got too far from their human shields, but they could make life hell for the US in the mean time. They could hold a significant chunk of the country's shipping capacity hostage and demand all kinds of concessions.

The city governments would function as Vichy leaders with promises that they'll get to lead the new "socialist republics" that have been carved out of the US once the revolution is complete. China would claim they're on a mission to "liberate the oppressed peoples of the United States white supremacist system" and they'd have a bunch of city council members and union leaders from the cities backing them up.

After the invasions happened the Navy could cut off China's access to the cities, but the PLA could use the millions of hostages to their advantage by threatening to withhold food and starve them if the supply lines aren't left open. They could wall the cities like Berlin and not permit any supplies to come in from the US., saying if the people in those cities are to be permitted food it must come from China along with more PLA troops and materiel.

Taking those cities would also put them in control of a huge amount of technology infrastructure. Imagine if Facebook, Twitter, Amazon and every other tech company HQed in those places fell under PLA control? Even if they couldn't take over Amazon per se, shutting down its HQ would cripple its ability to deliver things until they could get an alternate system set up to run all their fulfillment centers. Think what it would do the the country if Amazon suddenly stopped operating.

Biden in the meantime would wet his diaper and call a lid for the day.

 

[Gehenna]

Something I've wondered... the West Coast cities are getting increasingly woke and insane to the point of having many elected officials who vocally support communism. The ports are controlled by woke unions and the woke local government. Many of these groups vocally support China and then there's the matter of the large populations of Chinese in those areas.

What if the local governments in, say, Portland, Seattle and San Francisco conspired to have thousands of PLA troopers brought over on container ships to occupy each city? The police forces in the cities have been cut to the bone and wouldn't stand a chance against such an invading force. Sneaking them in through the ports would allow them to take over without drawing attention from the military. The invasion could take place over a night where they roll all the troops along with tanks, artillery pieces and anti-air batteries out of shipping vessels and quickly take over the cities; they would have plenty of time to plan all this out.

The PLA could effectively make each city a massive military base with the residents used as human shields. It would be impossible to shell or bombard them without killing hundreds of US civilians. The Chinese troops wouldn't be able to take much ground beyond the cities because they would be blasted if they got too far from their human shields, but they could make life hell for the US in the mean time. They could hold a significant chunk of the country's shipping capacity hostage and demand all kinds of concessions.

The city governments would function as Vichy leaders with promises that they'll get to lead the new "socialist republics" that have been carved out of the US once the revolution is complete. China would claim they're on a mission to "liberate the oppressed peoples of the United States white supremacist system" and they'd have a bunch of city council members and union leaders from the cities backing them up.

After the invasions happened the Navy could cut off China's access to the cities, but the PLA could use the millions of hostages to their advantage by threatening to withhold food and starve them if the supply lines aren't left open. They could wall the cities like Berlin and not permit any supplies to come in from the US., saying if the people in those cities are to be permitted food it must come from China along with more PLA troops and materiel.

Taking those cities would also put them in control of a huge amount of technology infrastructure. Imagine if Facebook, Twitter, Amazon and every other tech company HQed in those places fell under PLA control? Even if they couldn't take over Amazon per se, shutting down its HQ would cripple its ability to deliver things until they could get an alternate system set up to run all their fulfillment centers. Think what it would do the the country if Amazon suddenly stopped operating.

Biden in the meantime would wet his diaper and call a lid for the day.

That is absurd and would never occur. For one, shipping containers lack the essentials to leave a long voyage on and also wouldn't really be able to pack the numbers that would be required. So ignoring that logistical impossibility, you also have the fact that they support communism, not China in particular. Then you have the fact this would need to occur under everyone's nose without anyone blowing the whistle. So again, no. Then it raises the question of "Why even fucking bother", it'd be an act of war, -congress- signs declarations of war not the President. And Pelosi knows she'd get killed basically immediately by China if they -somehow- took over, or at best she'd be made a puppet.

Enjoy your immediate impeachment of Biden, Kamala turned into a war puppet, and a rather quick declaration of war,

Your entire idea is pure, condensed stupid. And I could keep poking holes in it for days.

 

[teriyakiburns]

What if the local governments in, say, Portland, Seattle and San Francisco conspired to have thousands of PLA troopers brought over on container ships to occupy each city?

They'd have to clear the huge backlog in the container ports first.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Something I've wondered... the West Coast cities are getting increasingly woke and insane to the point of having many elected officials who vocally support communism. The ports are controlled by woke unions and the woke local government. Many of these groups vocally support China and then there's the matter of the large populations of Chinese in those areas.

What if the local governments in, say, Portland, Seattle and San Francisco conspired to have thousands of PLA troopers brought over on container ships to occupy each city? The police forces in the cities have been cut to the bone and wouldn't stand a chance against such an invading force. Sneaking them in through the ports would allow them to take over without drawing attention from the military. The invasion could take place over a night where they roll all the troops along with tanks, artillery pieces and anti-air batteries out of shipping vessels and quickly take over the cities; they would have plenty of time to plan all this out.

The PLA could effectively make each city a massive military base with the residents used as human shields. It would be impossible to shell or bombard them without killing hundreds of US civilians. The Chinese troops wouldn't be able to take much ground beyond the cities because they would be blasted if they got too far from their human shields, but they could make life hell for the US in the mean time. They could hold a significant chunk of the country's shipping capacity hostage and demand all kinds of concessions.

The city governments would function as Vichy leaders with promises that they'll get to lead the new "socialist republics" that have been carved out of the US once the revolution is complete. China would claim they're on a mission to "liberate the oppressed peoples of the United States white supremacist system" and they'd have a bunch of city council members and union leaders from the cities backing them up.

After the invasions happened the Navy could cut off China's access to the cities, but the PLA could use the millions of hostages to their advantage by threatening to withhold food and starve them if the supply lines aren't left open. They could wall the cities like Berlin and not permit any supplies to come in from the US., saying if the people in those cities are to be permitted food it must come from China along with more PLA troops and materiel.

Taking those cities would also put them in control of a huge amount of technology infrastructure. Imagine if Facebook, Twitter, Amazon and every other tech company HQed in those places fell under PLA control? Even if they couldn't take over Amazon per se, shutting down its HQ would cripple its ability to deliver things until they could get an alternate system set up to run all their fulfillment centers. Think what it would do the the country if Amazon suddenly stopped operating.

Biden in the meantime would wet his diaper and call a lid for the day.

This thread has officially gone beyond Tom Clancy.

We have entered Dan Brown levels of conspiratorial contrivance.

 

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They'd have to clear the huge backlog in the container ports first.

Imagine an entire fleet of Chicom troops in shipping containers starving to death because their commie allies in the dockworker unions are too lazy to work thanks to the China Virus unemployment payoff of 2020.

Sometime in 2022, 2023 when they finally get to undocking them they find them and suddenly we get to hear about how tragic it was that the US couldn't accept these poor innocent immigrants fleeing Taiwan for a better life...

 

[Michael Wade]

This thread has officially gone beyond Tom Clancy.

We have entered Dan Brown levels of conspiratorial contrivance.

With all due respect... 20 fucking 20 happened.

 

[Idiot Asshole]

Imagine an entire fleet of Chicom troops in shipping containers starving to death because their commie allies in the dockworker unions are too lazy to work thanks to the China Virus unemployment payoff of 2020.

Sometime in 2022, 2023 when they finally get to undocking them they find them and suddenly we get to hear about how tragic it was that the US couldn't accept these poor innocent immigrants fleeing Taiwan for a better life...

Sounds like a dead baby joke.

"What's worse than finding two thousand dead chinks in a shipping container? Finding one thousand dead chinks and one thousand half-eaten corpses."

 

[Kane Lives]

This thread has officially gone beyond Tom Clancy.

We have entered Dan Brown levels of conspiratorial contrivance.

I think it's just a sign of Biden being boring rn.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

but the PLA could use the millions of hostages to their advantage by threatening to withhold food and starve them if the supply lines aren't left open

As if anyone outside the West Coast would give a shit. They'd be the PLA's problem and in true commie fashion they'd starve them while working them to death. I'm perfectly fine with that.

 

[Ruin]

One of the main reasons I don't think the American left will side with the CCP is because over the last month or so China has started aggressively going after the faggots and nothing is more sacred to the globalist neoliberal order than buttsex and troons.

 

[JohnDoe]

The PLA could effectively make each city a massive military base with the residents used as human shields. It would be impossible to shell or bombard them without killing hundreds of US civilians.

Taking those cities would also put them in control of a huge amount of technology infrastructure. Imagine if Facebook, Twitter, Amazon and every other tech company HQed in those places fell under PLA control?

Okay, the point of a human shield is that it is supposed to disincentivize an attack. Giving an excuse to ash all the traitors, junkies, illegals, communists etc in California PLUS destroying the evil of Facebook, Twitter and Amazon with the excuse of defeating China? We have clean nukes and conventional explosives, and that would be the perfect excuse to use them. Just scour the west coast completely and start over.