Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[AfghanBlue]

can’t quote the above post, but on twitter there was one french girl pretty fucked off about the 2004 veil lie. One of his fans too, quite hurt/ surprised, and now doubting other stuff lol.
Seen countless Russians now, baffled by the weird ruskie schtick.
Like why is ok to randomly stereotype them, for a start- but the complaints were all about his butchering of the language

 

[behindyourightnow]

I can't stand to watch it myself, but does Ollie make any attempt to at least mention the French devotion to laïcité? It's true that the idea has probably been used disproportionately against Muslims in many cases, but it is kind of a whole thing, you can't talk about hijabs there without acknowledging France's unusually strong attachment to secularism, and the history behind it. Or does French culture not count as a culture that we need to consider and understand?

 

[Ritardo Pianissimo]

Equally offensive to Russians is the chessboard not being set up right, what the fuck.

 

[narcissistic injury]

can’t quote the above post, but on twitter there was one french girl pretty f ucked off about the 2004 veil lie. One of his fans too, quite hurt.
Seen countless Russians now, bruised and baffled by the weird russkie schtick. Like why is ok to randomly stereotype them, for a start- but the complaints were all about his butchering of the language

Yeah given that the video is about how negatively generalizing a group of ppl is bad…. What the fuck

How clueless is PT to not see that hypocrisy?

My general impression is that whenever contra does language stuff it’s well received and the accent is impressive to native speakers. Of course PT fucked it up royally… shallow imitation, as usual.

 

[scathefire]

my god, hbomberguy is in his TWENTIES. He is younger than Selena Gomez.

I remember ages ago in the Quinton thread I think when I said "why does hbomberguy continuously look worse and worse" someone said it's just British aging. I don't know if that's accurate but PT doesn't look amazing for his age either, really.

 

[The Emperor Skeksis]

I remember ages ago in the Quinton thread I think when I said "why does hbomberguy continuously look worse and worse" someone said it's just British aging. I don't know if that's accurate but PT doesn't look amazing for his age either, really.

More like British food and no British exercise or sunlight. All three are fat or skinnyfat, permanently indoors, and allergic to exercise.

the previous scapegoating of communists

Yes, and in 2021 it turns out that was completely and utterly valid since Neomarxists have now infected Western society. We should have been more afraid of the commie menace, in hindsight. So unless Olly is trying to argue that scapegoating muslims is the correct thing to do that comparison is pretty broken.

 

[AfghanBlue]

I remember ages ago in the Quinton thread I think when I said "why does hbomberguy continuously look worse and worse" someone said it's just British aging. I don't know if that's accurate but PT doesn't look amazing for his age either, really.

i woulndt say its British aging so much as it is skinnyfat aging. everyone i know who carries a bit of weight has aged fucking horribly compared to the rest of us, started as early as mid 20s looking crap.

God knows what MTF troons think they're gonna look like, on top of that.
-Actually, i know what they're gonna look like, thinking about it, clowns.

Male skin was already rougher and will require more caked makeup, and their naturally bigger male noses and ears, the fact they'll have. to dye their hair and boufant it to stem the balding being visible, (its either that or the low rent ones who just have a disgusting slick of mousey thin friz)
Shove that into a floral dress and

 

[Jah Hates Kaffirs]

Or does French culture not count as a culture that we need to consider and understand?

Yes.

 

[narcissistic injury]

It’s definitely in part, British aging…

 

[Silence of the Troons]

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Olly in drag

He was obviously trying to aim for some kind of "sexy foreign spy" look (since dressing up as a woman wearing a burqa or even a hijabi would have a) earned him accusations of islamophobia and b) not allowed him to show off his irresistible body), but this looks more a chubbier version of early 80s' Phil Oakey

I can't stand to watch it myself, but does Ollie make any attempt to at least mention the French devotion to laïcité? It's true that the idea has probably been used disproportionately against Muslims in many cases, but it is kind of a whole thing, you can't talk about hijabs there without acknowledging France's unusually strong attachment to secularism, and the history behind it. Or does French culture not count as a culture that we need to consider and understand?

He, naturally, did not mention it (and I would have been surprised if he did since people from the UK/US who criticize France for "islamophobia" usually don't even make any attempt to understand it or know it's a thing). After all, why would he have included something that may not readily fit his narrative?

 

[narcissistic injury]

 

[SevenEightNine]

He was obviously trying to aim for some kind of "sexy foreign spy" look (since dressing up as a woman wearing a burqa or even a hijabi would have a) earned him accusations of islamophobia and b) not allowed him to show off his irresistible body), but this looks more a chubbier version of early 80s' Phil Oakey

He, naturally, did not mention it (and I would have been surprised if he did since people from the UK/US who criticize France for "islamophobia" usually don't even make any attempt to understand it or know it's a thing). After all, why would he have included something that may not readily fit his narrative?

Anglos don't understand laïcité.

 

[EverlyB]

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Aw, he was handsome.

I can never see "Abigail" passing as a woman. It's not that his face is ugly. Oliver was fine for a man just the way he was.

 

[Shotgun Badger]

Even when he was still a man Olly always exuded navel gazing 'I'd fuck me' energy. On Twitter and in his videos he'd endlessly talk about his sexual exploits and how many people he was going out with or wanted to fuck him.

I still sometimes wonder if his transitioning was a way of insulating himself from getting metooed because he seems like exactly the kind of person who'd have some history that could be dragged out like that, especially considering how many exes he has where they broke on very bad terms by the looks of it. That and the fact that according to him most of them later came out as lesbians, which he hilariously perceives as evidence of his true womanhood and not evidence that he left such bad memories that they swore off dick forever.

 

[Rose_of_Troon]

Even when he was still a man Olly always exuded navel gazing 'I'd fuck me' energy. On Twitter and in his videos he'd endlessly talk about his sexual exploits and how many people he was going out with or wanted to fuck him.

I still sometimes wonder if his transitioning was a way of insulating himself from getting metooed because he seems like exactly the kind of person who'd have some history that could be dragged out like that, especially considering how many exes he has where they broke on very bad terms by the looks of it. That and the fact that according to him most of them later came out as lesbians, which he hilariously perceives as evidence of his true womanhood and not evidence that he left such bad memories that they swore off dick forever.

Exactly. Isn’t it still a well known fact amongst men that lesbians simply never had good enough dick? Ew.

The video was shit. It was boring and didn’t make any memorable points on this topic that pt completely appropriated for themselves just to sell ads and make some coins on their patreon, even though abigail isn’t muslim and doesn’t seem to genuinely care. just disgraceful.

Their looks were ok. That was all PT obviously cared about in this project.

There was a lot of stealing from Contrapoints again. Like one of natalies/„nyks“ favorite chopin pieces for example that was featured prominently in the video and there was other stuff as well that we’ve seen/heard before on Contrapoints, only better and more originally executed.

Their attempt of making us laugh with their boydrag failed. Their attempts to act were, as usual, cringey and bad.

Overall, PT was more interested in their own persona than the actual topic of the video. I assume a lot of it was spoonfed by their new muslim convert bestie Alice who wants to benefit from PT’s notoriety.

You saw PT‘s narcy tendencies exposed a lot of the times but then again, whats new?

Don’t watch the video if you haven’t yet. PT keeps grifting but not delivering.

 

[glib]

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John Mcafee

 

[Photo of an orange]

After I realized how fake Olly was in all aspects, for my own "decline and fall" entertainment purposes I really wanted Oliver to be more interesting than he is as he imploded, so that his inevitable (and current) downfall would be as extreme as possible.

But, no, destined for disappointment, am I.

In the end he's just the basic elite and entitled UK theatre kid, skinwalking a much more interesting (if incredibly disturbed) American original. And, well, it wouldn't be the first time some fake-workingclass bloke(s) with narcissistic theatre skills pulled the British Invasion trick of monetizing the reality of a fucked-up American original.

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I actually do like HBomberguy and his content (the "vaccine" video was incredibly good and well-researched, and the "Pathologic" video was a...journey, for instance), and seeing this image...I really hope Harris didn't let Olly fuck him out of some misplaced Breadtube proof-of-identity. I know we're supposed to use euphemisms or whatever, and make a joke of it. But I actually hope Oliver didn't assfuck Harris sometime after this photo, because Harris thought he needed to get assfucked by Oliver to prove himself.

 

[Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r]

Ollie set out to make a video with a narrative already in mind. Anything less than pardoning Islamic practices and beliefs that interfere with secular society and public life (i.e wearing a face covering due to security risk) wouldn't be good enough. He knows his audience and he knows as we all do that his channel has a political leaning.
A lot of it's really not that complicated either. For example, the face covering thing applies to everyone. It just happens to overlap with religious garb. It's really irrelevant to philosophise about women's free choice and agency in that context. It was all in all a redundant video.

It’s definitely in part, British aging…

No bully. We're not all dysgenic alien-looking niggas. Harris is just a particularly grody specimen.

 

[Photo of an orange]

Ollie set out to make a video with a narrative already in mind. Anything less than pardoning Islamic practices and beliefs that interfere with secular society and public life (i.e wearing a face covering due to security risk) wouldn't be good enough. He knows his audience and he knows as we all do that his channel has a political leaning.
A lot of it's really not that complicated either. For example, the face covering thing applies to everyone. It just happens to overlap with religious garb. It's really irrelevant to philosophise about women's free choice and agency in that context. It was all in all a redundant video.

No bully. We're not all dysgenic alien-looking niggas. Harris is just a particularly grody specimen.

I've lived in a Muslim-majority country for a couple years. Oliver really couldn't care less about any Muslim, though, or any phobia of any Muslim -- man or woman or (lol) non-binary -- in any Muslim-majority country.

Oliver only cares about his sets, and his roles, and he's very lazy, so lazy that transitioning to "female" has been easier than just taking two steps forward as himself...so skinwalking Contrapoints will do quite well for him as his next ROLE.

Back to our reality: I will say that the Muslim people I lived with were fantastic. They were not tolerant, though. They were misogynist and they were afraid of their (as expected) power-mad governing bodies...local, state, and national. Muslims are often great, Islam is usually bad, do with that what you wish.

Oliver, however, has no take on the subject other than ME ME ME ME ME ME ME! It's always a mistake to think there's a substance beneath whatever his con is.

 

[Dr George Whitebread]

Aw, he was handsome.

I can never see "Abigail" passing as a woman. It's not that his face is ugly. Oliver was fine for a man just the way he was.

Oliver was okay for a guy. Abigail would possibly pass better if he didn't give off the energy that he's very aware he's playing a character and doing a Borat/Ali G style LARP when out and about and in the public eye.