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I was being snarky about the language stuff people, maybe it did not translate in the move from the Lavery thread where we were all being snarky academics. I read that whole very long sad paper in French to get that stuff so no, I am not really confused by what the word "expérimentations" means. And the German joke was that everyone knows what "Luftwaffe" means and the guy was a fucking Nazi.
Polish article is very sparse, only metions that after the war he was doing some work on Multiple Sclerosis.

"What happens if you lock people with multiple sclerosis outside in the snow and pour cold water on them all night: A quasi-experimental field study by Erwin Gohrbandt."
 
Good fucking lord you guys are still sperging about the "women don't buy sex" thing?
It's cause some times the way women get talked about here seem like the same rhetoric of some radfem spaces where women are innocent victims and men are the only monsters, and while for sex related stuff on average men are way more depraved women are just as capable (just usually it's some extremely online weirdo and not the ones you interact with on the daily).

It feels specially relevant in a trans related thread because the implication that women are one way and men another is one the main reasons stuff got to this point, so when people that are supposedly "Gender Critical" or whatever spout the same stuff it feels like they are indirectly contributing to the crazyness.

I can’t tie my tubes at 20 cause I “might change my mind” but if I asked for it along with a cock id probably have had no issue.
Yeah,same with something like adenomyosis, only known cure is a hysterectomy, but good luck getting one, silly women, your hability to deliver a baby is the most important aspect of your body, never mind that adenomyosis is associated with increased risk of basically every pregnancy complication you can get and miscarriages at any time and one of the main treatments is already Lupron anyway so your hormones are already getting messed up.

I can understand controversy with hysterectomy for stuff like PCOS but the fact those trans kids are getting it so much easier over women with adenomyosis is MATI material, and kinda specially with the fact a lot of those women have to keep taking Lupron into adulthood

Not only do they constantly lie, they always also claim to have the absolute rarest and most speschul medical condition anyone could ever think of; ovotestes (or true hermaphroditism as it's called in older literature) is the rarest intersex condition; only a handful of documented cases exist worldwide. Troons also habitually assume that other people are complete idiots incapable of putting two and two together, and we're seeing a stellar example of it here. Someone like me, who has actual medical knowledge, can tell this is bullshit from a mile away.
Yeah, it's funny how they always go for intersex conditions that make a claim to their preferred sex more legitimate like this girl saying her ovotestis produced testosterone. Known reddit moderetor pest Bardfinn also had some dumb claim like that, it is so transparent a way to appear more "legitimate" than the other troons even while claiming they're all equally "valid".

FOR FUCK SAKE YOU CAN'T JUDGE IT BASED ON A TRANSCRIPT. You need to HEAR the tone and the pacing to know how he delivered his thoughts!!!
Not if you're autistic enough and can't understand junk like "tone" and "pacing", ableist bigot.

You're thinking of a different condition, which is indeed endemic to a population in Africa.
I think they are thinking of Guevedoces in Dominican Republic, (which is the same condition to be fair but the name used in Dominican Republic instead of a part of Africa)

"DanMorinosDolphins" sounds like she was molested. None of the stuff before she was 11 sounds even remotely normal.
Yeah, her entire story has so many redflags, besides the weird vore with the barbies she casually drops being attracted to not only her aunt but also her mother? (had to double check it was not an AGP, congrats bro you pass a a male pervert, very gender affirming)

Also lol one of the girls started T at 14. First world western countries have really gone through the deep end
 
The inventor of the vaginoplasty was Erwin Gohrbandt, and I will copy/paste my sperg about him from the Grace Lavery thread:


First, let's read about what the inventor of the vaginoplasty, Erwin Gohrbandt of the famed Hirschfeld Institute, thinks about TERFs being fascist.​
...oh wait, that's weird, I can't find much information about him in English. Here is the relevant part of the German Wiki article. I wonder what that underlined parts mean. The article's only available in German and Polish.​
Looks like he was an "inspekteur" of the "Luftwaffe" (could mean anything, I guess) and that he participated in conferences about "medical questions about hypothermia" which seems to refer to a bunch of, um, experiments. Strangely, I had to look in another language to find more details:​
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Can anyone help me translate "expérimentations à Dachau"?​
Specific language woes aside, it is odd how there there isn't even an English version of the German Wiki that says that the guy that invented the vaginoplasty later worked for the Nazis, just like there's barely any information about the certificates issued by the Nazi party that allowed male AGPs to live safely because it proved they were not degenerate homosexuals (look at the difference in length between the English and German wikis on the subject, and the way the English one quietly obscures the Nazi involvement by just mentioning that it continued up until the 1950s). You'd think an open academic environment in English-speaking countries would encourage the easy dissemination of historical facts, but I suppose they all just forgot.​
Note: I do not think TRAs are Nazis. And the Nazis were not pro-troon, although they did show a willingness in many cases to turn a blind eye to AGP troons in a way they did not with male homosexuals. However, if there is a propaganda campaign going on today, it is one aimed at suppressing anything that might make troons or anything connected to them look bad, in any branch of research or academia, because making troons look bad will end or at least damage your career.

Hence why Hirschfeld's story is famous, but only autistic dorks can find actual information on Gohrbandt.

I'm pretty rusty at translating french to english. But this will give you a basic idea of what the image says

"This is for the recommendations and irrelevant remarks resulting the long list of tortures and murders by Rascher since the beginning of the series of experimentations.

The second series that started in august of 1942 responds to the problems which a growing number of Germans who dejected above cold seas who died due to their stay in the cold water, were confronted by. August 15th 1942 saw the beginning of attempts in concentration camp of Dachau, in close cooperation with aviation and the SS. The detainees were plunged, dressed in the pilots uniform, Freezing water (2.5- 12 degrees) for 50-60 minutes on average, brought out after loss of conscience and were subjected to a series of studies of methods of reanimation: Hot baths, Hot covers, etc…

Rascher suggested the same at RF SS to reheat the detainees with "animal heat". Himmler, A pervert and accomplished pornographer Brings four prostitutes from the Ravenbruck camp for this purpose. After these experimentations, he placed the unconscious detainees in a large bed surrounded by 2 naked women. He thus compared the results of the reheating by "animal heat" to those of the other considered means. Out of 300 detainees enrolled in the experiment , 80 to 90 of them must have died, a subject of Raschers Sadism.

On February 12th 1943, he sent a secret report to Himmler persisting of the final results of these tortures and deaths; He reports the "proof" that the better mode of reheating the pilots who had stayed in freezing water is that they get picked up quickly enough to be saved, be plunged in a bath of 40 degrees, knowing that animal heating is too slow. Truly a beautiful "proof".

The schematics, graphics, interpretations and conclusions of different parameters studied by Rascher (conscience, body temperature, Cardiac and breathing frequencies, muscle condition, various secretions, blood count, etc…) depending on successive water temperatures of water were exposed on 26th of October by the celebrated surgeon Erwin Gohrbandt to a very official congress of scientists at Nuremberg and was published on 1943.

On the strength of these conclusions, Rascher nevertheless continued his experimentations at Dachau aimed at "reheating people frozen on ground" (and not in water). He submitted, In the midst of winter, weakened and hungry detainees, naked, tied up outside on a stretcher, covered with a sheet, to be sprayed on the head with the aid of a tub of water, until early morning. There too many detainees gave their lives for these experimentations. "
 

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Something I just realized is that for as long as I've known (actual) lesbians, or pretty much any of them I've seen online have always preferred to refer to themselves as "gay" rather than "lesbian." Because, obviously, they're women and they're gay, therefore there's no reason to further gender what they are. But men who fetishize women don't know that because their entire history with gay women is through browsing the "Lesbian" genre on pornhub, therefore the trannies are always very quick to call themselves a LESBIAN and not GAY because a LESBIAN is 100% only for women and if they said they were gay, people might be (rightly) confused that they're only attracted to men.

Is this theory all horseshit? Could be!
 
I don't see a big difference between nazis torturing prisoners for "science" and modern surgeons cutting up mentally ill people in an attempt to play god, just to dump and ghost them after it goes wrong. It just became acceptable for whatever reason.
The difference is that the mentally ill are making people bend the knee successfully to get what they want. Anyone who doesn't faces being ostracized by the gender special crowd and their handmaidens. Prisoners didn't want what happened to them and had no say in it. The wokies are begging for it even if they see the butchery that happens to their brethren. They're experts at ignoring what is uncomfortable and not conductive to their narrative.
 
Trans wacktivists love trying to assert that there is more than 2 sexes, using intersex people as pawns but no, there are only 2 sexes. What is biological sex? It boils down to what the type of gamete one's reproductive system is organized around. An expressed SRY gene triggers the path to a reproductive system organized around sperm release, and the lack of it triggers the path to one organized around egg release.
There are no third gametes, no intermediate gametes. There's sperm and egg, bodies that can impregnate and bodies that can get pregnant, two bodies with different reproductive systems needed to reproduce, no third reproductive function, no mythical "hermaphrodites" that can do both.

That's why all the trans sperging fails when it comes to facts. A woman without ovaries and a man without testicles are still female and male respectively, because the rest of their reproductive system has parts that would ordinarily support pregnancy or impregnating respectively, lacking the anatomy to support the other sex's functions. And a transwoman who takes exogenous hormones and gets surgeries to look female still isn't female; one still developed a reproductive system to produce sperm and did not (cannot) develop one with the internal parts women naturally develop to potentially enable pregnancy. So the autogynephilic pregnancy fetish won't ever result in a pregnancy.
 
Trans wacktivists love trying to assert that there is more than 2 sexes, using intersex people as pawns but no, there are only 2 sexes. What is biological sex? It boils down to what the type of gamete one's reproductive system is organized around. An expressed SRY gene triggers the path to a reproductive system organized around sperm release, and the lack of it triggers the path to one organized around egg release.
There are no third gametes, no intermediate gametes. There's sperm and egg, bodies that can impregnate and bodies that can get pregnant, two bodies with different reproductive systems needed to reproduce, no third reproductive function, no mythical "hermaphrodites" that can do both.

That's why all the trans sperging fails when it comes to facts. A woman without ovaries and a man without testicles are still female and male respectively, because the rest of their reproductive system has parts that would ordinarily support pregnancy or impregnating respectively, lacking the anatomy to support the other sex's functions. And a transwoman who takes exogenous hormones and gets surgeries to look female still isn't female; one still developed a reproductive system to produce sperm and did not (cannot) develop one with the internal parts women naturally develop to potentially enable pregnancy. So the autogynephilic pregnancy fetish won't ever result in a pregnancy.
If they just all decided to stick to the whole "sex is biological but gender is not" then they wouldn't be painted into a corner like this, but no, they now insist that the gender they think they are is ALSO biological. Back when trannies were just guys who wanted to "live as a woman," they weren't normal by any means, but hey, there's always weirdos in life. But now whatever gender you think you are is also your biological sex. If you're 6'4 with a permanent five o'clock shadow and a thick uncut cock, that's completely irrelevant to the 100% biological fact that you're no different than a cis woman because you just say you are. Truly incredible
 
'[Words] don't have to mean anything' is one of the more honest tranny hot takes of recent times tbh

Dave Chappelle was pretty much right when he said that these troons will make up words to win arguments. They also change or downplay definitions in an attempt to win arguments too. If words literally mean nothing and their meanings can change at the whims of a user (as opposed to having a universally agreed upon meaning) then how are we supposed to understand the meaning of someone’s writings or their speeches? The purpose of communication is to have an effective way to convey ideas to each other or exchange information. If “words don’t have to mean anything” then communication is effectively dead.

I guess that is the goal for these troons. If you remove the power of communication and obscure the definitions of words, then anything goes. You can literally change words or concepts to fit your agenda at any given moment.
 
I guess that is the goal for these troons. If you remove the power of communication and obscure the definitions of words, then anything goes. You can literally change words or concepts to fit your agenda at any given moment.
That is 100% the goal, muddy the waters as much as possible because they know everything they believe is completely contradictory when it's not just plain fucking stupid.

Classic example: The gender binary doesn't exist but I have to transition from man to (the most laughably stereotypical) woman in order to live my truth.
 
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