Covid/mRNA Vaccine Info General - "Covid Seasonal Flu Vaccines is Society's New Normal" - FDA

OP literally just made a post giving you every reason in the world and then some to ignore HHH's obsessive, autistic 'le epic trollllssssss XD' sperging and you go right back to it literally the next message.
It's not like ignoring him is going to make him any less of an angry autist. I was hoping to see him sperg out about his credentials, though.

Still, this is not the "let's shit on Hulk" thread, he hasn't reached full lolcow status just yet. To get back on topic:
 
Forbes - “ The Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 Vaccine Is Less Effective Against The South African And UK Variants Than Against The Original Virus, According To A New “Real-World” Study From Israel”

Source - https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....ng-to-a-new-real-world-study-from-israel/amp/
Thanks for the link! I'll add this to the OP as well, but before I gotta take a minute to recognize that this article--with the scientific findings it reports on therein, which have now been proven again in published study and admitted on television and in Congressional briefing by the CDC, even the CDC Director herself (and the Health Ministry for Israel)--is six months old. That means the facts about the ineffectiveness of mass vaccination against the new variants of Covid have been there since April, and apparently were even reported on by major outlets like Forbes, and yet people to this day are still led to believe it's merely an anti-vax lie and the vaccines are aces.
Makes me feel even worse for the Israelis protesting right now against the sudden revisions to their imposed Green Pass vaccine passport. How many people kept getting vaccinated, had encouraged their families to get vaccinated, just so they could live a semblance of a normal life with that stupid Green Pass, all the while totally unaware of the evidence that everything they were hoping for was void? It's a miracle Israel hasn't set itself on fire from the outrage.

Oh, and you want "Info General" and claim that I "hate this thread", yet anytime someone disagrees with you, you just tardrage and ignore their point entirely.
God help me I have to respond to this. You win. You got me to reply, but only because I know that anyone hostile to the thread would use these remarks against it to try and show it really is a hugbox or something. I refuse to let misconceptions arise again just so that something happens to this thread again. I'm not replying to you again after this no matter what you say so stop hounding me already.

I only ignore your posts, for every reason I already stated in my post above yours. I do not ignore others' points when they are made sincerely. Anyone can look back through the thread and even the OP and Archive Post to see where people who made counterpoints were not only cited/quoted but had their points/posts linked to therein. Anyone willing to read it can see it. Anyone willing to read the thread can see it.
I do not ignore anyone with contrary discussion, information or otherwise unless they are trolling. I've even bantered with other posters on both positions of the issue.
If you really wanted "Info General", you'd be fine with positives about the vaccines, too.
The very first introduction to the thread encourages anyone in the risk demographic to consult their doctor on getting it or not. Every link which describes the vaccines as effective in X context is unedited. Even the links and vids which speak about the dangers of the vaccines which come from doctors and renown physicians 1) take Covid very seriously and 2) speak about the differences between the Covid vaccines (most recently the Dr. Kirsch's article wherein he says the Pfizer vax is technically the safest and suggests ways to take precaution against possible adverse effects if you need to get the vaccine, which is at the top of the OP post).

The CDC Director's own words about the vaccine being effective for keeping people out of the hospital or from death are also unaltered. I have not censored or doctored any information that would be positive about the vaccines. My own views are my own, based on what I've gleaned from the information being continually updated, but I don't present them as word of God. Your problem is that the thread heavily emphasizes the scientific findings about the Covid vaccines which are becoming exponentially drastic, namely the heart inflammation issue, the ineffectiveness against Covid variants and the potential for ADE. The thread emphasizes this because, apart from being information which is broadly de-emphasized or outright censored literally almost everywhere else on the entire Internet, as it says in the title of the thread and very first line of the OP, the aim here is to present all information and thereby make a reasonable case for those marked as "vaccine hesitant" or "anti-vax" on this specific subject. People have and can come to their own conclusions, hopefully without them being compelled by mainstream messaging to strange one another over the subject.

That's everything with regards to the vaccines themselves. All alternate hypotheses, interpretations of data, etc. has been expressed and archived from everyone in this thread. That is plain to see. If anyone wants to argue the thread is bias against vaccine mandates, the "infodemic", enforced unemployment over personal bodily autonomy regarding Covid vaccination, etc then that's another matter, but even then no one gets shouted down or falsely reported or any other tactic of silencing them just because they have alternate views even on those matters.
People disagreeing with your anti-vax views and that everyone who takes the vaccine will die
Show me where I ever said that. Show everyone reading the thread--be they a user or a mod or visitor to the site--where I ever posted that, let alone made it part of the thread's OP and Archive Post. If you can then I'll take responsibility for it and apologize for overreaching, but you better prove it.
I have tried to talk to you on your profile about this
You spammed my profile like a lunatic, demanding credentials once a day for the last six days. You did the same on your own profile and then did it twice over in the thread.
but instead you just passive aggressively talk shit about me in this thread
Previously I was making typical bantz while trying to warn people from engaging with you. I've taken you more seriously now and won't do even that much anymore.
I'm fully transparent about everything here. That's it now. Leave me alone.

To anyone reading this post, please test what I said and verify if it's true for yourself. I hope you do not view this thread as a conspiratorial echo-chamber or as being innately antagonistic to anyone on the fence about/in favor of the Covid vaccines. Please look for yourself, starting from the top of the OP itself, which was specifically written even for people unused to the Kiwi Farms.
 
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Cool, cool, article from 10/6/21 discussing how to mitigate vaccine myocarditis in the youth. Oh wait! A correction has been issued! Let’s see what it was, probably a misspelled name or something.

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“the article also misstated the number of COVID hospitalization in U.S. children. It is more than 63,000 from August 2020 to October 2021, not 900,000 since the beginning of the pandemic.”

NIGGA COME AGAIN, PLEASE?

That’s a discrepancy of 837,000 children! Keep making money moves, MSM.
 
“the article also misstated the number of COVID hospitalization in U.S. children. It is more than 63,000 from August 2020 to October 2021, not 900,000 since the beginning of the pandemic.”
NIGGA COME AGAIN, PLEASE?
lol The six got flipped into a nine and the 3 was confused for two zeroes. It could happen to anyone.
Edit: So I checked out the article. Gotta add this to the OP. Also edited in the link to the named countries which have their own method and reasons regarding the vaccination of youths which the article linked to.
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What's especially frustrating is how the USA is being called out for not wanting to address this issue that other countries are, and also how Germany changed its vaccination roll to span all youths, not just those in a risk demographic, because of the Delta variant. Does Germany not keep up with Israel or the USA when it comes to the Delta variant news?
 
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Don't try to deflect and move the goal-post. You're acting like obesity is easily solvable by some woman who has above-celebrity status telling people to exercise is the equivalent to the great awakening even though it's been an issue before Bush was in office. It's stupid to tardrage, but until I see those who proclaim to be liberal follow up on what they preach about it's just as stupid to deflect about this.
You: They should do more to promote healthy eating and exercise!
Me: Michelle Obama did that and you guys tardraged.
You: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DONT DEFLECT

Yes, I agree obesity is a problem. What do you think should be done about it that hasn't been tried?
 
You: They should do more to promote healthy eating and exercise!
Me: Michelle Obama did that and you guys tardraged.
You: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DONT DEFLECT

Yes, I agree obesity is a problem. What do you think should be done about it that hasn't been tried?
Pokemon Go did more to get people out and about than anything Michele Obama did.
 
Welp, this sucks: Tried to use Pastebin as an alternative to archive the text of the OP and even after censoring out our colorful usernames I still get this:
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Can't recall there being any offensive language. Put it into a doc and ran through the list of naughty words I knew but couldn't find any. Might be something on my end or Pastebin doesn't want text about Covid or the vaccines. Any ideas for alternatives? I'd prefer to back up all of this stuff as much as possible in case something ever happens, and although the MEGA link is secure I understand people's trepidation on clicking something they might wonder is dolphin porn.

Edit: Just found this interesting bit of news courtesy of Israel again,
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Apparently using Aspirin as a treatment option reduces ICU admission (hopsitalization) by 43% and overall hospital mortality by 47%. Which technically means that Aspirin is as effective as Pfizer's Covid vaccine against Delta. That's something to consider. Quoting the article:
“As we learned about the connection between blood clots and COVID-19, we knew that aspirin – used to prevent stroke and heart attack – could be important for COVID-19 patients,” said Dr. Jonathan Chow of the study team. “Our research found an association between low-dose aspirin and decreased severity of COVID-19 and death.”
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Israeli researchers reached similar results in a preliminary trial at the Barzilai Medical Center in March. In addition to its effect on blood clots, they found that aspirin carried immunological benefits and that the group taking it was 29% less likely to become infected with the virus in the first place.

“Aspirin is low cost, easily accessible and millions are already using it to treat their health conditions,” said Chow. “Finding this association is a huge win for those looking to reduce risk from some of the most devastating effects of COVID-19.”
So again, simple over-the-counter Aspirin at a low dose can not only prevent hospitalization as 43% and prevent serious illness or mortality at 47% but it can also potentially prevent infection at 29%. I hope we get more studies into this. It could be a huge breakthrough. Also it'd burn Big Pharma's ass since it's over-the-counter.
 
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Welp, this sucks: Tried to use Pastebin as an alternative to archive the text of the OP and even after censoring out our colorful usernames I still get this:
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Can't recall there being any offensive language. Put it into a doc and ran through the list of naughty words I knew but couldn't find any. Might be something on my end or Pastebin doesn't want text about Covid or the vaccines. Any ideas for alternatives? I'd prefer to back up all of this stuff as much as possible in case something ever happens, and although the MEGA link is secure I understand people's trepidation on clicking something they might wonder is dolphin porn.
Pastebin has a list of banned content including violent language (anything that says jab or shot might count) and some types of un-PC wording. I've run up against the no violence text filter while sharing code for game projects and other pretty normal stuff.

Just use a competitor's website like justpaste.it or something else. Then archive that on an archive website in case it ever gets taken down.
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan has some of the best shennegans on this thread. Maybe I disagree with his politics, but I do enjoy how worked up people get sometimes when he posts in a thread these days. People need to stop getting so worked up when HHH tips the top hat in the thread. I think his opinions at this point are just designed to derail and mess with people in the thread.
 
Pokemon Go did more to get people out and about than anything Michele Obama did.
That's because you Republican boomers tardraged when she suggested people eat healthier and exercise. And now you boomers are saying they should tell people to exercise and eat healthier instead of vaccinate :story:

You could at least admit you were wrong to tardrage when she suggested you get off your autistic ass and exercise
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan has some of the best shennegans on this thread.
Derailing and spamming a thread until it gets locked isn't a "shennegan", neither was everything else.

Anyway, check this out. Here's something else interesting I found for discussion, from all the way back in 2013:
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https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0062275
Considering everything that's transpiring I'm inclined to agree.

Just use a competitor's website like justpaste.it or something else. Then archive that on an archive website in case it ever gets taken down.
lol Gotta archive the archive of the archive so we can have an archive. But really, good idea. I'll give it a shot.
 
Derailing and spamming a thread until it gets locked isn't a "shennegan", neither was everything else.

Anyway, check this out. Here's something else interesting I found for discussion, from all the way back in 2013:
View attachment 2620305 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0062275
Considering everything that's transpiring I'm inclined to agree.


lol Gotta archive the archive of the archive so we can have an archive. But really, good idea. I'll give it a shot.
It's cute how you are obsessed with me because I am not afraid to call you out on your bullshit, which causes you run and hide like a little schizo bitch
 
You're an oldfag, There's isn't much to fear when people are willing to forgive you because of celeb status. It's not impressive.
I won't HHH is a bootlicking simpleton, I have 0 respect for him. I wish he was thread banned, all he does is shit this one up. He is a sperg who can't be reasoned with so show him the door.
 
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I won't HHH is a bootlicking simpleton, I have 0 respect for him. I wish he was thread banned, all he does is shit this one up. He is a sperg who can't be reasoned with so show him the door.
He gives adversarial papers so he's technically contributing. 95% of his content is fat though and he would make a shitty time wasting prosecutor.

you cannot show your muscle power and courage through internet shitflinging of various contradicting science papers. you have to box.
 
I won't HHH is a bootlicking simpleton, I have 0 respect for him. I wish he was thread banned, all he does is shit this one up. He is a sperg who can't be reasoned with so show him the door.
True, anyone that disagrees with the Hulkster in his Covidiots hugbox thread gets the banhammer, yet he's free to shit up every thread because he's Le epic contrarian troll.
 
And? Michelle Obama tried to push for it and you Republicans threw huge temper tantrums about it. Instead of looking like a GOP simping boomer, you could just say, "Yes, she was right and people were stupid to tardrage about that".

Or is it only okay to push for healthier diet and exercise if it wasn't Obama's wife doing it?
Wasn't that because of her lunch program making school lunches even worse in a lot of places? I don't remember anyone caring about her prior to that.
 
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