Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[The golden neckbeard]

bogleech

The pandemic decimated workers so hard that there literally isn't enough longshoreman to unload boats which is leading to an internal collapse of the supply chain. It seems that ignoring covid because...

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Found this particullar dumb reblog
The supply chain wasn't disrupted by the massive layoff and absurd restriction and strike rather than the 'mass death' they claim to be?

Nah its just inflation

aint no one gonna work for $12 an hour when rent in the city $2000 a month

Its not a coordinated but a collective decision.

 

[jje100010001]

There's a theory that says China is using their vaccine because in addition to financial reasons (they aren't paying billions to NATO countries), they're using the vaccine because of issues with infertility (China knows the fertility rate is their biggest hurdle in the next century) and because other vaccines theoretically could backfire if China released SARS-3 which could target the spike protein in the vaccine and cause debilitating and lethal disease in anyone who's taken it. This biowarfare campaign would spare China's puppets/vassals in Africa, Latin America, elsewhere in Asia, etc. (for the sake of China's resource security) but kill NATO countries dead.

That's an interesting point, especially since the virus itself has never been isolated, and it seems like the vaccines were developed with Chinese data?

I don't see them planning on the destruction of much of the West, but I do see them keeping this in their back pocket like a Sampson option, to be used in situations like a Taiwan defeat.

Even if the development of spike protein vaccines ended up a lucky strike, no doubt Beijing and even countries like Iran are now quickly rushing their biolabs to explore how to utilize the spike protein and the S-antibodies that the body generates from it for their own ends.

The makers of the mRNA and Adenovector vaccines knew all this and worked around the problem. How to provide a vaccine against Covid at a high enough dosage to induce an immune response without killing everyone who takes it? The answer was not to vaccinate against Covid-19 itself but to expose the immune system to the spike protein instead. This "worked' in that the immune system does make antibodies against the s-protein but the response is not the same as natural immunity. It's narrow, the spike component is the most mutable part of the virus and so the vaccines will always be leaky and prone to breakthrough and it turns out the immune system does not recognise Covid as a viral infection in the vaccinated but rather as a spike exposure and is not able to produce n-protein antibodies, or perhaps any antibodies. If the vaccines are messing with innate immunity we have a big fucking problem and it won't just be limited to Covid.

There is a theory floating around that "Team Vaccine" envisioned this, and saw that the vaccines would essentially be a one-time stopgap measure in giving temporary immunity to the old and vulnerable while a societal herd immunity would develop & eventually provide an off-ramp from the pandemic (which at least the US was looking at in early 2021).

At some point after the vaccines were developed (possibly with Biden coming into power), the goals ended up changing ($$$), and "Team Lockdown" took over.

"Team Lockdown" blazed past that off-ramp and instead pushed for Covid Zero- and as a result we have a vaccine increasingly unsuited for its purpose that's now going to be forced again and again onto the population.

I don't think anyone really has a plan now beyond arbitrary power grabs (esp. with the mandates), and as such, this is very dangerous territory society is headed in and I don't want to think about where it ends up.

 

[SCSI]

Info on inactivated vaccines:

Inactivated Viral Vaccines

Straight from the NIH, you can't make this stuff up:
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[The Wicked Mitch]

That's an interesting point, especially since the virus itself has never been isolated, and it seems like the vaccines were developed with Chinese data?

I don't see them planning on the destruction of much of the West, but I do see them keeping this in their back pocket like a Sampson option, to be used in situations like a Taiwan defeat.

Even if the development of spike protein vaccines ended up a lucky strike, no doubt Beijing and even countries like Iran are now quickly rushing their biolabs to explore how to utilize the spike protein and the S-antibodies that the body generates from it for their own ends.


There is a theory floating around that "Team Vaccine" envisioned this, and saw that the vaccines would essentially be a one-time stopgap measure in giving temporary immunity to the old and vulnerable while a societal herd immunity would develop & eventually provide an off-ramp from the pandemic (which at least the US was looking at in early 2021).

At some point after the vaccines were developed (possibly with Biden coming into power), the goals ended up changing ($$$), and "Team Lockdown" took over.

"Team Lockdown" blazed past that off-ramp and instead pushed for Covid Zero- and as a result we have a vaccine increasingly unsuited for its purpose that's now going to be forced again and again onto the population.

I don't think anyone really has a plan now beyond arbitrary power grabs (esp. with the mandates), and as such, this is very dangerous territory society is headed in and I don't want to think about where it ends up.

The Rockefellers have a wargame scenario involving an American produced virus released in/blamed on China, triggering a pandemic in which the West moves to inoculate their entire population in preparation for the second stage, a much more severe virus that decimates all who have not received the Western vaccine - effectively destroying China ( and all other contenders to Anglosphere dominance ) in a grand pump-and-dump scheme.

 

[Jarolleon]

lol.

>98+% survival rate
> Mass death.


Fucking pick one.

Is there some conspiracy theory going around that the Coof secretly is the Black Death 2.0 and it's just being covered up China style?

 

[Mrs. Addams]

10-year-old Texas boy dies after COVID-19 battle

Zyrin Foots fought the virus and other complications for more than two weeks before his family had to make the heart-wrenching decision to remove him from life support.

abc7.com

absolutely healthy child dies from coof. are we still thinking its just a flu, fellow conspiracy theorists?

Even in the ages brackets that are statistically safe, a few of us will still die. I guess this poor kid was the one of his age group.

Spoiler: Random update on my job trying to mandate vaccines:

The accountant and I flooded our boss with articles on the legality or lack thereof and checked with some of the other contractors on the project to verify that our mutual (very politically correct) client had not required them to vaccinate, and my boss dropped the topic. I think she was mostly worried about client expectations. I made everyone wear masks and test as required by local union regulations and reminded everyone who fussed that even vaccinated people can spread Covid. Several people on the team, flew in from other states, complained loudly about face diapers, and ditched them as soon as the client was not around, which made me secretly very happy.

For anyone else dealing with this, from a management perspective, I think the consensus was that you can ask people if they've been vaccinated, but if they decline to answer, you can't ask why as it's a potential disability-related question. Also, it seems like you can mandate the vaccine for employment but you have to apply the mandate fairly across the board, and have a plan setup to handle religious and medical exemptions. I'm not sure about what liability the company would have in the case of such a mandate.

Also, fun one. My grandpa is dying slowly, and the nursing home won't allow my mom into his room to visit cause she's not vaccinated. They're making her stand in the open exterior sliding door of his room, way at the end of his bed, and when I went with her yesterday, they'd hooked him up to an oxygen cannula, which is noisy, and from across the room, you couldn't hear him at all. I just said, "screw this - I've never mentioned vaccine status to anyone here", went inside and hung out by his bed and tried to help him drink water and stuff. My mom is lawful good and didn't want to break the rules so she wouldn't come in. I hate that things are this way.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

The Rockefellers have a wargame scenario involving an American produced virus released in/blamed on China, triggering a pandemic in which the West moves to inoculate their entire population in preparation for the second stage, a much more severe virus that decimates all who have not received the Western vaccine - effectively destroying China ( and all other contenders to Anglosphere dominance ) in a grand pump-and-dump scheme.

the problem with that is 1. the demos basically prove once the non-vaxxed die off the Democratic party ceases to exist. 2. if the value of human life skyrockets then the rich get fucked over massively 3. ironically enough when the worker's value skyrockets the amount of competent people willing to security work plumets. which is why we have a shitload of high profile assassinations post-plague/mass death scenario. a good chunk of Scotland's royal family and their lovers, and bastards were murdered in separate occasions because of this exact reason. not to mention what happened to the romanovs or that other russian king in 1880.

Beyond that the money won't be good enough in the long term if any socialists decide to get violent on them.

 

[borsabil]

The Rockefellers have a wargame scenario involving an American produced virus released in/blamed on China, triggering a pandemic in which the West moves to inoculate their entire population in preparation for the second stage, a much more severe virus that decimates all who have not received the Western vaccine - effectively destroying China ( and all other contenders to Anglosphere dominance ) in a grand pump-and-dump scheme.

This isn't possible. Even if you had a vaccine ready to go the risk is that any released virus would mutate past it and infect your own population. Also in such a scenario it would be evident to everyone what was happening which would mean actual war with a nuclear exchange if the virus was used against Russia or China. OTOH if you had a unique biomarker that the enemy population had that your's didn't? Then we'd be off to the races. The holy grail of bioweapon research has been to find an attribute that could be used to against an enemy that would leave your own population untouched, we've just handed that to them and tied a bow on it. Even better there will be no way for us to know if a new vaccine resistant super bug is a bioweapon or just the result of Covid, or another Coronavirus, mutating past the S-protein antibodies.

That's an interesting point, especially since the virus itself has never been isolated, and it seems like the vaccines were developed with Chinese data?

I don't see them planning on the destruction of much of the West, but I do see them keeping this in their back pocket like a Sampson option, to be used in situations like a Taiwan defeat.

Even if the development of spike protein vaccines ended up a lucky strike, no doubt Beijing and even countries like Iran are now quickly rushing their biolabs to explore how to utilize the spike protein and the S-antibodies that the body generates from it for their own ends.


There is a theory floating around that "Team Vaccine" envisioned this, and saw that the vaccines would essentially be a one-time stopgap measure in giving temporary immunity to the old and vulnerable while a societal herd immunity would develop & eventually provide an off-ramp from the pandemic (which at least the US was looking at in early 2021).

At some point after the vaccines were developed (possibly with Biden coming into power), the goals ended up changing ($$$), and "Team Lockdown" took over.

"Team Lockdown" blazed past that off-ramp and instead pushed for Covid Zero- and as a result we have a vaccine increasingly unsuited for its purpose that's now going to be forced again and again onto the population.

I don't think anyone really has a plan now beyond arbitrary power grabs (esp. with the mandates), and as such, this is very dangerous territory society is headed in and I don't want to think about where it ends up.

This is for sure correct. The change in messaging in the Anglosphere since Biden took office has been notable. Having a voluntary vaccination program essentially meant that vaccines would be mainly put in the arms of boomers and death fats, you know the people who might benefit from them. 3 months ago a switch was flipped in Australia. The voluntary vaccination program became a mandatory one that would rely on the American mRNA vaccines. At the same time a new military alliance was signed with the US and UK. The irony is that the one country that's having the biggest problem in enacting vaccine mandates is the US.

 

[Bob's Fries]

So has there yet to be any reliable consensus that the vaccines are safe? It looks like they have potential to cause autoimmune disease.

 

[benutz]

Even in the ages brackets that are statistically safe, a few of us will still die. I guess this poor kid was the one of his age group.

Spoiler: Random update on my job trying to mandate vaccines:

The accountant and I flooded our boss with articles on the legality or lack thereof and checked with some of the other contractors on the project to verify that our mutual (very politically correct) client had not required them to vaccinate, and my boss dropped the topic. I think she was mostly worried about client expectations. I made everyone wear masks and test as required by local union regulations and reminded everyone who fussed that even vaccinated people can spread Covid. Several people on the team, flew in from other states, complained loudly about face diapers, and ditched them as soon as the client was not around, which made me secretly very happy.

For anyone else dealing with this, from a management perspective, I think the consensus was that you can ask people if they've been vaccinated, but if they decline to answer, you can't ask why as it's a potential disability-related question. Also, it seems like you can mandate the vaccine for employment but you have to apply the mandate fairly across the board, and have a plan setup to handle religious and medical exemptions. I'm not sure about what liability the company would have in the case of such a mandate.

Also, fun one. My grandpa is dying slowly, and the nursing home won't allow my mom into his room to visit cause she's not vaccinated. They're making her stand in the open exterior sliding door of his room, way at the end of his bed, and when I went with her yesterday, they'd hooked him up to an oxygen cannula, which is noisy, and from across the room, you couldn't hear him at all. I just said, "screw this - I've never mentioned vaccine status to anyone here", went inside and hung out by his bed and tried to help him drink water and stuff. My mom is lawful good and didn't want to break the rules so she wouldn't come in. I hate that things are this way.

These are things that will stay with you for life. Choose well.

I think it's also part of the reason more and more people are dropping out of positions of officialdom. They don't want to be put in to positions like this, to be made to enforce the unreasonable rules. To be in the firing line when otherwise reasonable people snap, and will happily take that 10 year sentence to rip out the throat of those that would make this kind of thing haunt them to the last of their days. It doesn't go away.

It's an equation between how much shit can you eat AND much are you prepared to sacrifice to prove your point and protest, Divided and Multiplied, depending on your situation.

They count on your good behaviour. And if you don't behave, they make punishments worse.

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Do what you can. Take it philosophically if you can. Also take numbers and names for later.

A lot of people still stuck in these jobs enforcing these Draconian rules need to be dealt with at some point. They are beasts. No more.

A lot of us are going to have to go hungry to uphold our moral values. Or face the wrath that ensues from our actions.

You are facing an immovable object and unstoppable force scenario. There probably isn't a right or wrong answer. My thoughts are with you, and your old folks.

 

[Mrs. Addams]

These are things that will stay with you for life. Choose well.

I think it's also part of the reason more and more people are dropping out of positions of officialdom. They don't want to be put in to positions like this, to be made to enforce the unreasonable rules. To be in the firing line when otherwise reasonable people snap, and will happily take that 10 year sentence to rip out the throat of those that would make this kind of thing haunt them to the last of their days. It doesn't go away.

It's an equation between how much shit can you eat AND much are you prepared to sacrifice to prove your point and protest, Divided and Multiplied, depending on your situation.

They count on your good behaviour. And if you don't behave, they make punishments worse.

You are here --------------------------------->>>

Do what you can. Take it philosophically if you can. Also take numbers and names for later.

A lot of people still stuck in these jobs enforcing these Draconian rules need to be dealt with at some point. They are beasts. No more.

A lot of us are going to have to go hungry to uphold our moral values. Or face the wrath that ensues from our actions.

You are facing an immovable object and unstoppable force scenario. There probably isn't a right or wrong answer. My thoughts are with you, and your old folks.

Thanks... This is all very legit.

I also think (and hope) that most of these people aren't on some moral crusade to keep us from our dying relatives. I think they're just scared to get sued if somebody else's grandpa dies bcause they let in an vaccinated visitor with Covid - and they haven't gotten it into their thick heads (or don't want to believe - because it goes against their narrative) that the vaccinated can carry it too so the distinction is pointless.

 

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So has there yet to be any reliable consensus that the vaccines are safe? It looks like they have potential to cause autoimmune disease.

We'll never know. So many people have taken it and now been manipulated or forced to take it, that if it's not 100% safe they will hide that shit from us for the next 100 years or more. The only evidence we'll ever get is anecdotal evidence, which is being suppressed as hard as big tech can suppress... and what we have heard from that is that nooooo it's not safe. Not at all.

 

[benutz]

Thanks... This is all very legit.

I also think (and hope) that most of these people aren't on some moral crusade to keep us from our dying relatives. I think they're just scared to get sued if somebody else's grandpa dies bcause they let in an vaccinated visitor with Covid - and they haven't gotten it into their thick heads (or don't want to believe - because it goes against their narrative) that the vaccinated can carry it too so the distinction is pointless.

You can argue the finer points all you like. I did. It won't make much difference. A lot of people in the same boat as you, some even looking in here for guidance.

A lot of the Nazis meant well.

I'll leave it at that, because to go further would imply I'm having some kind of go at you, and I'm not. My intent is to show sympathy for your situation. How you deal with it is up to you. I know you'll choose best you can.

I think we've both made our point.

I wish you and your relatives well.

You seem a pretty empathetic person from what I've seen of your posts. Life never gets easier.

I've just run out of words, sorry.

Be well!

 

[George Lucas]

I hate to break it to you but the legal system is fully in on it. It does not exist for the benefit of the common man, it doesn't and never has.

If the powers that be think people will accept it the law will fully support them in demanding you let them anally rape your firstborn on their first birthday in a glorious tribute to Moloch. You and I and everyone within the system are niggercattle, to be managed, pacified and milked for productivity.

Unlike the Amerimutts I will actually be <redacted for fedposting> if they come for my land, property, food, water or physical integrity.

Ah yes the typical doomer ‘everything is rigged so discussion doesn’t matter’ response. Well if you look at the facts, the anti-mandate side is winning in the courtroom war, so I don’t know wtf you’re even going off about.

 

[borsabil]

Having forced most of the population to take the shitty vaccines they're now setting us up for the next round

https://archive.is/JhdOP

Australia could see Covid surge from new variants even after 80% vaccination when border reopens

Modelling shows increased risk of outbreaks if a mutation similar to the transmissibility of Delta were to circulate with international arrivals

www.theguardian.com

However, were the variant to enter Australia of similar infectiousness to the Delta variant, and circulated when 80% of people aged 16 years or more were fully vaccinated (64% of the total Australian population), opening the international border was followed by surges in both infections and hospitalisations. The modelling found this was the case whether 2,500 or up to 13,000 international arrivals were accepted per day. These surges would require public health measures beyond mask wearing and social distancing to avoid overwhelming the health system, the modelling found.

They're getting their excuses in early. Of course the vaccines are safe and effective, how could we possibly have planned for a highly mutable virus mutating around them?

Even with close to 90% vaccination rates we're being told that 90% of cases are among the unvaccinated. When that lie becomes unsustainable they'll switch to variants and the need for boosters and re-vaccinations.

This shit is never going to end. We'll be in lockdown again after Christmas.

 

[Quijibo69]

This shit is never going to end. We'll be in lockdown again after Christmas.

I'm hopeing/not hopeing before the new year because I made a money bet for a lockdown before next year. I'll be richer but at what cost?

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/taste-blood-run-exercise/2021/10/07/cc024ce6-26b2-11ec-9de8-156fed3e81bf_story.html

Just thought it interesting that I've never heard of such a thing before. Perhaps clot shot related? Trying to normalize like how they're pushing articles about kids having heart attacks and it being normal?

Oh yeah it's totally normal to get a touch of pulmonary edema from taking a jog-

what???

The media gets more bizarre every day.

 

[borsabil]

Member earlier in the thread when we were discussing how they were going to start vaccinating animals and pets against Covid. Remember how we lol'd at a 4chan meme coming to life (again)

Yeah about that

Maryland Zoo Prepares to Vaccinate Animals Against Covid-19 | The Maryland Zoo

BALTIMORE, MD – The Maryland Zoo in Baltimore will begin vaccinating specific species that have been proven to be susceptible to COVID-19 within the next few months. “We expect to receive the vaccine in the fall from the animal health company Zoetis, which has developed a vaccine specifically...

www.marylandzoo.org

We plan to vaccinate those species at the Zoo that we have assessed to be most likely to contract SARS CoV-2, including the North American river otters, the chimpanzees and our cat species – Amur leopard, cheetah, bobcat, and lion,” continued Dr. Bronson. “Many of these animals are trained to participate in their own health care, meaning they willingly work with the animal care team and veterinary technicians to receive injections, and in some cases to even allow blood to be drawn and have ultrasound examinations performed while awake. The training avoids the need in some situations to anesthetize the animal for minor medical procedures.”

They'll be rolling out mandatory vaccination for pet puppers and pussies. We all know it's coming.

"Scientists have discovered that pet owners are at risk from catching Covid from Fido. Here's how you can protect yourself and your beloved companion animal through accessing Pfizer's newly formulated animal mRNA vaccine. Also consider Merck's new vet AIDS pill as a preventative'.

Plus mandatory Covid microchips if you want to take them for a walk. There's a lot of money in the pet business. Why shouldn't big pharma get their fair share?

Oh yeah it's totally normal to get a touch of pulmonary edema from taking a jog-

what???

The media gets more bizarre every day.

What a fucking clown world we live in. No coughing up frothy blood after exercise isn't normal! Holy shit! Yes definitely go see a doctor.

That's up there with Myocarditis being nothing to worry about when kids get it.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

When's the new variant coming out, Delta is starting to be old news.

Member earlier in the thread when we were discussing how they were going to start vaccinating animals and pets against Covid. Remember how we lol'd at a 4chan meme coming to life (again)

Yeah about that

Maryland Zoo Prepares to Vaccinate Animals Against Covid-19 | The Maryland Zoo

BALTIMORE, MD – The Maryland Zoo in Baltimore will begin vaccinating specific species that have been proven to be susceptible to COVID-19 within the next few months. “We expect to receive the vaccine in the fall from the animal health company Zoetis, which has developed a vaccine specifically...

www.marylandzoo.org

They'll be rolling out mandatory vaccination for pet puppers and pussies. We all know it's coming.

"Scientists have discovered that pet owners are at risk from catching Covid from Fido. Here's how you can protect yourself and your beloved companion animal through accessing Pfizer's newly formulated animal mRNA vaccine. Also consider Merck's new vet AIDS pill as a preventative'.

Wait, doesn't this make the vaccine "dog jabs" or whatever to complement that awful "horse paste" that Qtards and conspiracy theorists take? Someone with a Twitter account to burn should start labeling the vaccines as unsafe because they're animal medicine.

What a fucking clown world we live in. No coughing up frothy blood after exercise isn't normal! Holy shit! Yes definitely go see a doctor.

That's up there with Myocarditis being nothing to worry about when kids get it.

Read the article, it's saying because you work out heavily you may have a "touch" of it and that's why there can be metallic taste in your mouth. It happened to me last year a few times and I was confused as hell why there was a metallic taste even though I rarely push myself to my limits when I work out. I almost thought it was a symptom of the virus but then I never had anything else other than that metallic taste. I think it's because of breathing/bloodflow because I find it's easy to clear my sinuses after working out (really noticeable with the colder weather now).

 

[Mist3]

Are we still pretending that this is a dangerous pandemic?

I’m at work 5 days a week now. Pandemic is over.