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What the actual fuck? The fact that shit like this has been going on is just straight depressing. Let that poor old woman hug her little grand/great grandchild. Where I am there are old people in nursing homes who haven't seen a single family member in person for a year and a half. Little kids are the least likely group to catch Covid and the old want to spend whatever time they have left in the company of the people they love. I have gone out of my way to visit my parents more often during the lockdowns than I did before, including taking their grandchildren for visits. Walks in the park, baby sitting, coming over for dinner. Arrest away you evil fucks.
 

Just thought it interesting that I've never heard of such a thing before. Perhaps clot shot related? Trying to normalize like how they're pushing articles about kids having heart attacks and it being normal?
I dunno what specific articles you have in mind about kids and heart attacks, but I've heard repeatedly my whole life that heart conditions are the first (or or one of the top three) causes of death in the Western world.
 
I dunno what specific articles you have in mind about kids and heart attacks, but I've heard repeatedly my whole life that heart conditions are the first (or or one of the top three) causes of death in the Western world.
Yup. Heart stuff, then cancer. The Chinese Flu was #3, but heart and cancer are always 1 and 2.

Here's our favorite useless carpetmuncher "mayor" in action.



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Seattle Police telling TPTB to fuck off re vaccine "mandates".




Fauci, babbling again. Nobody with a single functioning brain cell gives flying fuck one what this useless eater says. Fuck Fauci, fully. 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕


 
If the vaccines aren't 100% effective, then what's the point in the mandate?

At best, they're 90% effective, meaning 10% of your workforce are as good as unvaccinated.

Still can't get my head around 1) How it's going forward and 2) How everybody isn't saying "Hold on a minute, this doesn't sound right..."
 
Another interesting 4chin thread, this time discussing the problems with the mRNA lipids with spike protein data spreading beyond the deltoid:


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A postulation that in extreme cases, cells with the spike protein data may potentially still be present in your body up to a decade from now:

And issues with the adenovirus approach in J&J and AZ:



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At this point it does feel like if you must take a vaccine and are pressured by various external forces with no route of escape, try to get an exemption until you can at least get one that doesn't turn your body into a spike protein factory.
That was pretty interesting, if the cells that have many spikes in them manage to hide from the immune system, then later on, as manual replacement/they get attacked by the immune system, they get released slowly over time. Fundamentally, I still do wonder what happens long term when the spikes are made where they shouldn't be. Interesting find, highlights some areas that I could read more into.

@Super-Chevy454 This video makes me mati. His masks fit "so well" that he's developed an automatic reflex to fix them from falling down every 3 seconds. There's a logical solution here, but he's gone with "pull mask up every 3 seconds."
 
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If the vaccines aren't 100% effective, then what's the point in the mandate?

At best, they're 90% effective, meaning 10% of your workforce are as good as unvaccinated.

Still can't get my head around 1) How it's going forward and 2) How everybody isn't saying "Hold on a minute, this doesn't sound right..."
In a sane society, disregarding any sort of cessation of current policies, these vaccines would be reclassified as genetic prophylactics, since they do little to stop spread (and it very much may be that the vaxxed carry a larger viral load than the unvaxxed).

Of course, that hasn't happened, and instead the very definition of vaccines has instead been redefined.

Guess that's what you get living on clown planet.
 
There's one Nebraska AG who desserve some kudos about HCQ, Ivermectin and vaccines.

Nebraska AG Says Doctors Can Legally Prescribe Ivermectin, HCQ for COVID, Calls out FDA, CDC, Fauci, Media for ‘Fueling Confusion and Misinformation’​

At the request of the Nebraska Department of Health, on Oct. 15, Nebraska Attorney General Doug Peterson issued a legal opinion that Nebraska healthcare providers can legally prescribe ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of COVID, so long as they obtain informed consent from the patient.​

by Megan Redshaw
October 18, 2021
in News

Few subjects have been more controversial than ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine — two long-established, inexpensive medications widely and successfully used in many parts of the world for the prevention and treatment of COVID.

By contrast, the use of both medications against COVID has been largely suppressed in the U.S, where doctors have been threatened and punished for prescribing them.

On Oct. 15, Nebraska Attorney General (AG) Doug Peterson issued a legal opinion that Nebraska healthcare providers can legally prescribe off-label medications like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of COVID, so long as they obtain informed consent from the patient.

However, if they did neglect to obtain consent, deceive, prescribe excessively high doses or other misconduct, they could be subject to discipline, Peterson wrote.


The AG’s office emphasized it was not recommending any specific treatment for COVID. “That is not our role,” Peterson wrote. “Rather, we address only the off-label early treatment options discussed in this opinion and conclude that the available evidence suggests they might work for some people.”

Peterson said allowing physicians to consider early treatments will free them to evaluate additional tools that could save lives, keep patients out of the hospital and provide relief for our already strained healthcare system.

The opinion, based on an assessment of relevant scientific literature, was rendered in response to a request by Dannette Smith, CEO of the Nebraska Department of Health and Human Services.

Smith asked the AG’s office to look into whether doctors could face discipline or legal action under Nebraska’s Uniform Credential Act (UCA) — meant to protect public health, safety and welfare — if they prescribed ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine.
 
Ontarian here. I'm so fucking sick of vaccine passports. I'm supposed to enforce them at my job, but I've been slacking, and my boss is getting up my ass about it. I told him that I feel incredibly uncomfortable asking people for that information, and that it feels like an invasion of privacy, because, well, it is. He said, "yeah, but it's the law, so we have to do it." I don't give a shit if it's the law. Just because something is legal, does not mean that it's morally correct. I believe that people should have a fundamental right to privacy, especially regarding their medical information. The notion of vaccine passports flies in the face of that. No restaurant/bar/movie theatre should have any right to ask people for medical information, and decide whether or not they should be allowed to utilize their services. based on that information You either allow access to all, regardless of medical history, or you allow access to none. Makes me sick that we're supposed to discriminate based on this, and I'm expected to play gestapo. If Big Daddy Dougie wants gestapo so bad, then he should just hire actual gestapo, and quit expecting a poor bastard like me to do it. I actually have this theory though, that they're trying to make the shit jobs worse and worse to make people quit and suckle at the teet of the government. I don't know, guys. I'm just pissed off about all this, and any time I voice my concerns about the rights I feel are being violated I get hit with a, "but it's for public health!!!" At what point should public health take precedence over the rights of the individual? I don't know, I'm just some schmuck on the internet, but I feel as though a lot of personal rights have been violated in the name of "public health," over the past couple years, and even though it's all theatre, we're not allowed to question it. I'm just so tired. Sorry for the blog post.

tl;dr: fuck vaccine passports, and fuck Doug Ford
 
Japan is puzzled about why the cases of corona-chan had dropped. Some wondered if it was due to vaccines, masks? No mention of HCQ and Ivermectin who wasn't forbidden in Japan.

TOKYO -- Almost overnight, Japan has become a stunning, and somewhat mysterious, coronavirus success story.

Daily new COVID-19 cases have plummeted from a mid-August peak of nearly 6,000 in Tokyo, with caseloads in the densely populated capital now routinely below 100, an 11-month low.

The bars are packed, the trains are crowded, and the mood is celebratory, despite a general bafflement over what, exactly, is behind the sharp drop.

Japan, unlike other places in Europe and Asia, has never had anything close to a lockdown, just a series of relatively toothless states of emergency.

Some possible factors in Japan's success include a belated but remarkably rapid vaccination campaign, an emptying out of many nightlife areas as fears spread during the recent surge in cases, a widespread practice, well before the pandemic, of wearing masks and bad weather in late August that kept people home.

But with vaccine efficacy gradually waning and winter approaching, experts worry that without knowing what exactly why cases have dropped so drastically, Japan could face another wave like this summer, when hospitals overflowed with serious cases and deaths soared -- though the numbers were lower than pre-vaccination levels.

Many credit the vaccination campaign, especially among younger people, for bringing infections down. Nearly 70 per cent of the population is fully vaccinated.
 
If the vaccines aren't 100% effective, then what's the point in the mandate?

At best, they're 90% effective, meaning 10% of your workforce are as good as unvaccinated.

Still can't get my head around 1) How it's going forward and 2) How everybody isn't saying "Hold on a minute, this doesn't sound right..."
Even if these vaccines worked, they'd only be valid for the "alpha" variant. The first time the virus mutates -- and that's what Coronaviruses DO -- they'd get right past the damned vax. Same thing as the cold, same thing as the flu; there are literally thousands if not tens of thousands of variants of COVID19 now. Hell even when "2 weeks to flatten the curve" was starting to be a thing they were already talking about variants A, B, and C, with variant A hitting the US on the East Coast, then Variant B beating the shit out of Italy and then hitting the US on the West Coast. And each of those had dozens of sub-variants already.

So the idea that they're 100% effective is a pipe dream, the fantasy of the "wuv da science" crowd who thinks they're magic potions to make you immune to being sick, or the Lightfoots of the world who took one look at the leadership and responsibility needed for responding to the vax and said "miss me with that sheeeet"

As far as I can tell the mandate is either to force us into accepting the pharmabro's little "hey lets just skip animal testing" thing on this tech they want, or it's pandering to the two groups above. You have to take the vax because it validates the "wuv da science" cult's worldview of themselves as the smartest people in the room, and it "removes" any risk you might pose which means the "leaders" like lightfoot don't have to take any responsibility and can get back to their actual job of farming money, influence, and votes.

And of course Biden is getting pressure from all of the above, so...
 
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I dunno what specific articles you have in mind about kids and heart attacks, but I've heard repeatedly my whole life that heart conditions are the first (or or one of the top three) causes of death in the Western world.
Not for kids.

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And most of the kids who make up that ~1000 kids per year stat are children born with heart anomalies whose lifespan is known to be severely curtailed or at risk. It's incredibly unusual for children to die of a heart attack if they were born with a healthy heart.
 
As far as I can tell the mandate is either to force us into accepting the pharmabro's little "hey lets just skip animal testing" thing on this tech they want
Personally I think it's this. Let's be honest, IF this tech was perfected to the point it could train your immune system to attack anything, then we've cured all illness. No more cancer, no more aids, no more anything. That's a huge milestone to acheive.
 
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