Covid/mRNA Vaccine Info General - "Covid Seasonal Flu Vaccines is Society's New Normal" - FDA

[PuffyGroundCloud]

it was hilarious watching Rand Paul having a slap fight with Fauci on senate hearing
Senate Thunderdome when?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

It's not just *this* job, but pretty much most options in my career field. Even if I basically fall out of my current gig and write-off ever working for feds like USFWS or USGS in the future, the fact is virtually every private conservation entity is marching in lock-step, and the few that aren't are going to be hell to squeeze a position out of...

I haven't made up my mind yet, its obviously a discussion I need to bring up with my family and my S/O, but it's looking like I'm running out of options besides from a convincing forgery to buy me time for Meissa to get their traditional LAV through clinical trials. Maybe...

Are you really so terrified of getting a little jab? If you're that terrified of mRNA, just get the JJ shot. It's a viral-vector vaccine, which has been in use for 45 years now (which, as a totally real biologist, you should know this).

You already survived the spike protein from covid itself, so why are you afraid of the spike protein from the vaccine?

Or are you willing to live in poverty just to stick it to the libs?

 

[Bad Take Crucifier]

You already survived the spike protein from covid itself, so why are you afraid of the spike protein from the vaccine?

I like how you totally ignored the post about the NIH admitting it funded research to create stronger corona-viruses., in Wuhan.

 

[Nom Carver]

I like how you totally ignored the post about the NIH admitting it funded research to create stronger corona-viruses., in Wuhan.

He didn't ignore it. He put MATI on it. More or less signalling that he doesn't actually care about the well being of people or the integrity of truth. His own opinions, those opinions being validated, and his ability to genuinely believe in those opinions and stay closed-minded to anything contrary to his world view are more important than what's actually true to him.

Whether he's directly aware of this or has repressed it or otherwise just never seen it is up in the air. Part of me wants to believe he's willing to do stuff like this just to mess with people and 'own the conservatards with my ignorance of now-empirical fact', But I wouldn't doubt for a second if he's genuinely so diluded as to readily ignore this in its entirety because he's already made up his mind on what's 'true' (to him) or not.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

You already survived the spike protein from covid itself, so why are you afraid of the spike protein from the vaccine?

You accuse me of sperging about the spike protein yet it is you who keeps bringing it up.

 

[EyelessMC]

We're getting closer to certainty that this virus is artificial.

Of "lab origin" is more accurate, but yeah.

The NIH has admitted to funding $599k of gain-of-function research, which Fauci previously denied.

The letter is just unbelievable in what it tries to do. It shifts blame, plays naive and tries to cover NIH ass in the most ludicrous excuse. Of note:

- "[these] bat coronavirus genome sequences already existed in nature."
As if to soften the blow of the info by suggesting nothing too artificial was done because the viruses already existed. Like saying, "Sure it was augmented in a lab to prove infectivity to humans but it's not like it was technically made in the lab, so..."

- "The limited experiment was testing if spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to human ACE2 receptor in a mouse model. All other aspects of the mice, including the immune system, remain unchanged"
Meaning that one aspect of the mice was in fact changed, recalling to mind that article of the Wuhan lab experimenting on "humanized mice" (and how the Chinese military was involved) which we saw a couple months ago (see Archive Post)

- "In this limited experiment, laboratory mice infected with the SHC014 WIVI bat coronavirus became sicker than those infected with the WIV1 bat coronavirus.
Gain of Function.

- "As sometimes occurs in science, this was an unexpected result of the research, as opposed to something that the researchers set out to do."
Kind of like someone pleading to Manslaughter when on trial for Murder. The emphasis here is not that it didn't happen but that it was unintended. The funny line here is the "as sometimes occurs in science", which basically sounds like the NIH Principal Deputy Director here is echoing John Stewart's gag:

It's all just one big "OOPS!" Nothing more than that. Just an accidental little oopsie from an innocent little experiment testing if spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to human ACE2 receptors, which proved to make the mice in the study sicker. Oops

- "Regardless, the viruses being studied under this grant were genetically very distant from SARS-CoV-2."
This comes in the same paragraph as the above quotes about the experiment. It was also emphasized in the previous paragraph and it's a sentiment repeated multiple times throughout the short letter. It's too genetically dissimilar, too distant, to different to Covid, so different it couldn't even be Covid's progenitor!

But even if that was the case, don't you think the results of this experiment could have been used by someone else like, I don't know, China itself (or even the Chinese military) to experiment until they got something like Covid? You say it can't even be its progenitor but the fact of the matter is that the results of this experiment prove the hypothesis required to get us to Covid. It proves that twisting the naturally occurring viruses to bind to human ACE2 receptors is feasible.
And you did this on foreign soil, in China, the country that'd been posturing geopolitically, wants to conquer another country (Taiwan) and has even threatened nuclear war. Retard. (I love this word filter)

So although the letter certainly does not say NIH funded Covid's creation, it does allude to the NIH funding the basis for such experimentation...accidentally.

- "The research plan was reviewed by NIH in advance of funding, and NIH determined that it did not fit the definition of research involving enhanced pathogens of pandemic potential (ePPP) because these bad coronaviruses had not been shown to infect humans. As such, the research was not subject to departmental review under the HHS P3CO Framework."
So because it was not shown to infect humans (despite the experiment proving it CAN infect humans (ACE2 receptors, remember?) and that it made the mice sicker) the NIH didn't think it fit the definition of "enhanced pathogens of pandemic potential". Let that sink in.
Firstly, was this an enhanced pathogen? Yes, objectively. Secondly, could it have pandemic potential? Well, since it can infect humans and it made the mice sicker....
But you see it wasn't shown to infect humans! Wait, how else would it be shown to infect humans after already showing it can bind to human ACE2 receptors? Did the NIH need to literally see people get infected before they categorized the research as involving "enhanced pathogens of pandemic potential"?

As I said, this is ludicrous. The letter goes on to reiterate blame on EcoHealth Alliance, which it repeats as much as it does the claim this had nothing at all to do with what would become Covid. I'd say it at least gives us a bit of catharsis to have the silver bullet evidence to prove it's not crazy to claim Covid came from the Wuhan lab, but the same people who claim that's crazy are those who refuse to actually engage with any information thus far. They still parrot "bat soup" and "live-saving [Covid] vaccines". Trying to get sincere thought from them is like trying to draw blood from a stone.

As for the idea Anthony Fauci lied to Congress--yeah he clearly did, just like he lied to the public. Repeatedly. However I doubt anything will happen since there's always gonna be some technicality to slip away from consequence when the government is largely on your side. "Oh, he said X but technically it was Y because" etc. Word games. Reminds me of a Yes, Minister episode.

 

[Shaka Brah]

- "Regardless, the viruses being studied under this grant were genetically very distant from SARS-CoV-2."
This comes in the same paragraph as the above quotes about the experiment. It was also emphasized in the previous paragraph and it's a sentiment repeated multiple times throughout the short letter. It's too genetically dissimilar, too distant, to different to Covid, so different it couldn't even be Covid's progenitor!

But even if that was the case, don't you think the results of this experiment could have been used by someone else like, I don't know, China itself (or even the Chinese military) to experiment until they got something like Covid? You say it can't even be its progenitor but the fact of the matter is that the results of this experiment prove the hypothesis required to get us to Covid. It proves that twisting the naturally occurring viruses to bind to human ACE2 receptors is feasible.
And you did this on foreign soil, in China, the country that'd been posturing geopolitically, wants to conquer another country (Taiwan) and has even threatened nuclear war. exceptional individual. (I love this word filter)

Makes me wonder if they'll ever release their genome sequence and protein data they got from Ecohealth as to what they added to the coronavirus spike to make it work on ACE2 in mice. It's known that the COVID spike had a novel furin cleavage site that allowed it to bind to Human ACE2 preferentially. If they're the same or similar on both pathogens it's proof beyond any reasonable doubt that it was from that lab and that project.

 

[PetrifiedTom]

@EyelessMC
Whom I should trust. Some no name on internet or researchers who spend life on virusology and biology?

Who the fuck are you? Some microbiologists or self-declared scientist who couldn't pass high school?

 

[EyelessMC]

Who the fuck are you?

Someone with reading comprehension.

Makes me wonder if they'll ever release their genome sequence and protein data they got from Ecohealth as to what they added to the coronavirus spike to make it work on ACE2 in mice.

Interesting point. As far as what they'll release, all we know on that front is that according to this letter the NIH had also enclosed data from the experiment meant to prove the viruses researched were distinctly different from Covid.

 

[Bad Take Crucifier]

Fauci, NIH, and their friends are doing everything they can to deny involvement in COVID-19. They're way too deep in, now. They've completely fucked the world. Any admission of guilt, is to admit that they're in cahoots with China to stage (what is effectively) a second Cold War against the United States + Europe and Australia..

 

[EyelessMC]

Fauci, NIH, and their friends are doing everything they can to deny involvement in COVID-19. They're way too deep in, now. They've completely fucked the world.

More than anything else this alone is objective fact. To admit to being involved with Covid-19 at this stage would just lead to them being crucified

Any admission of guilt, is to admit that they're in cahoots with China to stage (what is effectively) a second Cold War against the United States + Europe and Australia..

That's interesting. What makes you think it's a viral neo-cold war? From recent events there seems to be a lot of other things better suited to that notion:

 

[Bad Take Crucifier]

Fauci, NIH, and their friends are doing everything they can to deny involvement in COVID-19. They're way too deep in, now. They've completely fucked the world. Any admission of guilt, is to admit that they're in cahoots with China to stage (what is effectively) a second Cold War against the United States + Europe and Australia..

That's interesting. What makes you think it's a viral neo-cold war? From recent events there seems to be a lot of other things better suited to that notion:
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There are a lot of reasons that look pretty fucked up all put together. tl;dr Everything that's happening, suspiciously, weakens every country except for China.

So first of all: COVID-19 convinced almost all the leaders of the world to completely paralyze their own countries.
Communities have been destroyed by simple paralysis enacted from within. 18 months of cycling lockdowns? Middle classes around the globe have been destroyed, while Trillions of dollars of wealth have been consolidated at the top 1%. Further, the remaining jobs (companies) and the MILITARY are being gutted due to walk-outs from these stupid vaccine and booster mandates. The country and economy are in such a state of chaos. It's self-evident if you look of course, but it is being completely underreported, or misreported, by the media and by the White House. This mandate shit makes no sense anymore, Israel and Singapore have already quite well demonstrated these vaccines don't work worth a shit.


Second: The supply-chain with China outsourcing... Many countries, such as the USA, are heavily dependent on imports from China (due to decades of policy that incentivized shipping our manufacturing jobs overseas). This certainly benefits billionaires like Jeff Bezos, who ships in a LOT of product from China. But also, the USA and others are now starting to see serious supply-chain breakdowns because all sorts of vital mechanical parts, manufacturing supplies, and such, are all made in China. Everything from steel, to computer chips, to airplane components, and more, are no longer in the global supply chain because they're made in China. US assembly plants are crippled or closed down, thus the parts are not being ordered, OR China simply won't ship them.

Third: Freedom and privacy are being choked out. Look at Australia, for example. They passed a law to legalize 24/7 spying on everyone's Internet activity. They're rolling out all sorts of monitoring, from mandatory mobile apps, to police patrols and random brutality, to opening LITERAL "prison" camps for people that they want to quarantine. They are legally medically kidnapping children to vaccinate them in some places. They are also brutalizing journalists and they're putting up a fucking Internet firewall to stop any content of this brutality from leaking out. Like, seriously, WHAT THE FUCK?

The literal former Vice President of Pfizer said this is a conspiracy and everything that's happening is bad.

MSM hates him: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/health-coronavirus-vaccines-skeptic/

In the EU, they're pushing mandatory Vaccine Passports everywhere. In some countries, they've just made it illegal to go to a fucking grocery store without a vaccine passport. (Make no mistake--that shit is coming to the US next). Canada has completely cucked as well, they're also forcing people to get boosters in order to have a passport. I could go on, but they're basically economically holding people hostage. Also while forcing them to submit to a database. Goodbye privacy, hello contact tracing 24/7. And, oh, yeah, enslavement to a pharmaceutical company which manufactures the one single substance which grants temporary, conditional, freedom.

...This guy expresses my disdain for it quite well:

All said: If we assume the COVID-19 pandemic has been carefully coordinated, who gets the benefit? The elites at the top of every country most fucking certainly are immune to all these rules. Those COVID-19 regulations are just for poor people. The rich and powerful don't need to deal with it, they don't have to wear masks or do shit. They'll just keep collecting on that big, fat, wealth transfer. But China? Oh fuck, three words: Biden is Senile.

The president of the US is a drooling puppet with sharks constantly circling him, pushing their agendas behind closed doors. Fauci is the man currently driving all of USA policy.

Fauci speaks and the federal fucking government obeys.

So while Fauci is fucking the nation, consider that the media is pushing the fear mongering machine, turning half of the people into cowering little bastards.

All media is now woke and promotes bullshit ideologies designed to coax people into the most unhealthy, mentally ill behaviors.
Wokeness, leftism, communism and Marxism are all on the rise. It's not censored by social media, either. Now, that's another discussion, so I won't get into it too much. But, this is promoted constantly.

It's best explained with this video from the Cold War era.

And now 18-year-olds are whoring out on Onlyfans, while men are killing themselves. Trooning out is in fashion. Anti-Americanism is high. Conservatism can get you banned everywhere.

TikTok, owned by China, also pushes this woke shit on teenagers who use the app, it's a non-stop feed of bullshit.

Meanwhile in China, they're promoting masculinity and strength:
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/02/1033687586/china-ban-effeminate-men-tv-official-morality

So while everyone has been hunkered down inside and exposed to a carousel of fear porn, they've also been told leftism is the only form of goodness when the economy and the nation is rotting from the inside. "Nationalism is bad, America bad, take in more immigrants, spend more money on unnamed government projects, push the USA federal debt over 30 trillion dollars..." Spending is high, and guess what, many of those loans to the US Fed are from fucking. China.

Inflation is wrecking the dollar, immigration is going crazy, and other problems like that, which just fuck up the country even more, are going underassessed by Psaki, Biden, CNN, or anyone.

So finally: China is not really hurting from this. Every other nation is getting fucked. But if it's all true that China and American Communists are all in cahoots, such as how Fauci and the NIH permitted Gain-Of-Function research, then that means these idiots in the WHO, NIH, 1%? They all become ultra rich and in control. Meanwhile China overtakes the USA, the EU, and AU as the strongest country. China is trying to fuck with the rest of Asia, such as Taiwan and Hong Kong, and it absolutely wants to have a level of economic and moral control on the USA. The elites don't really care who is in power as long as they get rich as fuck. The majority of leftist normies are useful idiots who serve the communist cause of demoralization.

If this all continues and everyone in the world loses their freedom, to lockdowns and passports, China will very, very quickly be able to coordinate a massive economic stranglehold, because SO much of global manufacturing is tied up there, in China. And people will mostly not question it because they're still convinced Trump--fuckin' Trump--even still matters or is the "real problem". We have much bigger problems on our hands. Everyone in the first world is sinking into poverty and chaos. Even the dumbest idiot can just follow the money and see the massive power imbalance at play.

What are people supposed to do? Picking up manufacturing and raw material mining is going to be hard, especially with all the new poverty and new regulations created. The rich are owning everything. The actual workers of the USA, the actual middle class, are having their voting power crushed by a poverty-welfare-immigrant class, the elites, and a shitlib class of endless NPCs like HHH who pretend this is still about a jab and not an impending Nazi nightmare.

Ironically, libs voted Trump out because reee hE Is A nAzI, but they're totally fine with Biden and the rest of the world turning into a fascist hellscape. China is meanwhile eyeing the Middle East (oil), Africa and India (mining, manufacturing, and other jobs/resources) and Western companies just lost a lot of control.

Keep in mind, the narrative for the last 18 months WAS "investigating China/questioning China is RACIST" and Trump was shut down for trying to lead a charge that the virus escaped the Wuhan lab at the very beginning.

 

[PetrifiedTom]

Someone with reading comprehension.

Yeah, right. You forgot your tinfoil hat today?

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

@EyelessMC
Whom I should trust. Some no name on internet or journalists and bureaucrats.

FTFY

virusology

lmao please be shitposting

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

You accuse me of sperging about the spike protein yet it is you who keeps bringing it up.

Then why are you willing to lose your job and career over the vaccine? What are your fears? Stop dodging the question.

FTFY

I know you like lying about being a biologist, but 99% of scientists agree with these journalists and bureaucrats. I know you are a conspiracy nut and think there's a vast conspiracy and Fauci spent decades studying medicine, all in a huge conspiracy to make Bubba from Nebraska wear a mask for some reason, but we live in the real world here.

You tinfoil hat wearers still haven't answered what the end-game of this vast conspiracy is yet.

I like how you totally ignored the post about the NIH admitting it funded research to create stronger corona-viruses., in Wuhan.

What about it? That has nothing to do with VACCINE BAD, which is the purpose of this thread. The virus they studied wasn't covid-19.

@EyelessMC
Whom I should trust. Some no name on internet or researchers who spend life on virusology and biology?

Who the fuck are you? Some microbiologists or self-declared scientist who couldn't pass high school?

He's a schizophrenic retard who gets assblasted if you point out flaws in his logic and will say you don't have credentials for debunking him. Of course, he also has no credentials, but his schizophrenic brain doesn't register that.

 

[Gay Mouth]

lmao please be shitposting

They have to take turns renting a brain-share for 15 minutes a day, have mercy on them

 

[EyelessMC]

@Bad Take Crucifier The way you frame it reminds me of the anti-terrorism push and Iraq, only instead of Israel being the one benefiting from everything this time it's China. There's a lot of truth to that. China was behind the WHO misdirecting the world about the pandemic (and its origins) for months, completely crippling scientific research that could have saved millions of lives.

Null's view that this is the next generation's 9/11 and will be used as such has only been proven over the course of this last year, too.
The idea that the elites are in cahoots for profit is fairly clear simply from using the old "who benefits most from event X" common sense reasoning, yeah, and I've been saying that governments are letting China run roughshod on Easy Mode because they've invested so much of their infrestructor into China over the last twenty years or so, basically handing their balls to what they thought was just a paper tiger they could use as a giant iphone factory forever.

However, I'd caution about viewing too much of a connection between the disparate players on the stage (Western governments, Wealthy elites/Big Pharma, Anti-American libs and China/CCP). It's less that there's greater collusion between them, or just most of them, and more that they are all running parallel toward their own goals. Basically everyone's taking advantage of each other and the Covid pandemic situation, at the same time, for different ends.

Spoiler: Some considerations

Remember the massive chaos which began in China due to the CCP deliberately trying to keep quiet about the outbreak during their massive masturbatory festival when all this started, I think it's less that the CCP planned for all this and more that the many elements at play are taking advantage of a situation in their own way.

The Anti-American Left are useful idiots without any realistic end-goal, so they just do as according to their confused ideological cult. Governments of the world see an opportunity to gain more power, so they do what they can to get it. Elites want the dream of the World Economic Forum realized ("You don't own nothing, goyim, and you'll love it!"), and so they do what they're doing in action and lobbying to get that.
The WEF thing is objective, verifiable fact, and everyone involved in the WEF desires that mad dream we now know about too well. Profit mongers like them also desire more profit at any cost--also verifiable, as seen by how they continue to suckle the CCP and lobby in favor of never decoupling. They, despite many of them claiming a particularly sorrowful racial history, continuously obfuscate, overlook and directly participate in China's literal genocide and gulag slave labor:

So just as the West has used/taken advantage of China in the past, so is China now using/taking advantage of the West (like they've been doing for ages now). I highly doubt Fauci is in China's pocket. It could be he had financial ties like Hunter Biden but I don't think he's part of an active conspiracy by the Chinese Communist Party to enable the dystopia taking form. Also consider that the more powerful China gets, the less these not-Chinese sympathizers will be able to enjoy. The CCP isn't just communist but is (as communism typically leads to in some fashion or another) supremacist, particularly ethnically supremacist. Helping China supplant the US isn't something they'd want since China would just do to them twice worse what they do to their own billionaires, etc. At least the Soviet insurgents during the Cold War were Russian (and Jewish, but they leaned more on being Russian once Stalin put the heel to Jews, if I recall correctly). Hardly anyone involved in this scheme is Han Chinese

Plus you have Big Pharma competing against each other and China competing against Big Pharma etc. Other avenues of government are highly anti-CCP in the USA despite being very Left-leaning, etc. Biden is a drooling dummy but those running plans behind him aren't turning a blind eye to everything about China either. It's complicated.

TL;DR When you see a group of people running closely in the same direction you are very right to assume they are running together as a group. But if you look closely and see that some of them are running hand-in-hand while others are trying to trip the person beside them, biting and hitting one another, then you can't exactly figure them to be companions in their run. The only thing you can factually say is these men are all running in the same direction.

I prefer to keep it as that. The powers that be, for all the multifaceted elements at work, all their disparate aims and all their duplicitous behaviors amid chaotic confusion which they deliberately stoke up, are running in the same direction--not for the same unified destination, but certainly for somewhere that leads them all to run parallel for now.

 

[Bad Take Crucifier]

Null's view that this is the next generation's 9/11 and will be used as such has only been proven over the course of this last year, too.

Yes. I saw that too, he's right. And the youngest people who can remember 9/11 in living memory were born 25-30 years ago. Remember what Yuri Bezmenov said: "multi-generational demoralization"? That. Now, even if you take the most generous media/establishment-loving stance on COVID-19, it's chilling to see how this is playing out like a parallel of the fear mongering that came out of 9/11. For Zoomer kids who were born post-2001, they have no idea, it's all new to them, they don't see the "tactics" at play here. Every stupid political decision to come will be blessed by the media and fueled by fear. No one will be allowed to criticize until10 or 20 years from now when every politician involved has safely moved on or retired.

9/11 itself was like a chasm that split the bright times of the 1990's, and the depressed, recession-ridden world after. The USA sank TRILLIONS of tax dollars into the Middle East, while bleeding social programs and welfare dry. Plus, the higher taxes with literally no spending on Americans really hurt people, their businesses, and then 2008 we had the recession and housing market collapse. Millennials sure as fuck have never lived in a world where they could simply live comfortably. Now they're repeating that same cycle with Zoomers, except it's even worse because the economic problems of the 2000's are still here.

However, I'd caution about viewing too much of a connection between the disparate players on the stage (Western governments, Wealthy elites/Big Pharma, Anti-American libs and China/CCP). It's less that there's greater collusion between them, or just most of them, and more that they are all running parallel toward their own goals. Basically everyone's taking advantage of each other and the Covid pandemic situation, at the same time, for different ends.

I definitely agree that we shouldn't assume there is a tight-nit cabal between these people. There is probably some association and we can't know for sure, simply because of the secrecy. I definitely wouldn't trust China, and it seems like rich people in the west are, at the very least, just taking advantage of things.

We can be absolutely certain that virtually all elites (political leaders), the wealthy 1%, are against the other 99% in some way. Even elected officials are in this club because so many are propped up by dirty money and they sure as fuck are not "real" people in a metaphorical sense. But that multi-millionaire/billionaire club is a big one, we're not in it. World leaders are still a part of a gentlemen's club of sorts where they expect the peasants to die for them. They're just going to simply sit back and watch.

Fauci and friends are awfully determined to hide their connections to Wuhan. The people who own the media were determined to crush the narrative of China engaging in any malicious activity, whether it be covering up the virus for too long, or the virus literally escaping a lab. They crushed it when it counted, right before the election, even though Trump was right. Leftists genuinely believe that investigating the Chinese government would be racism. Fucking idiots. All said and done, they definitely get a money benefit. Pfizer, Wal-Mart, Amazon, and whoever else is getting money all have a vested interest in continuing to stoke fear.

The sad thing is that while these old farts are making billions, they're creating a trashfire of a world for the youth. And why should they care? By the time their shitty decisions really fuck everyone over, these Baby Boomers, and Silent Generation old farts, will be dead. Their descendants will be safely rich. Everyone else will be fucked.

 

[EyelessMC]

The sad thing is that while these old farts are making billions, they're creating a trashfire of a world for the youth. And why should they care? By the time their shitty decisions really fuck everyone over, these Baby Boomers, and Silent Generation old farts, will be dead. Their descendants will be safely rich. Everyone else will be fucked.

Great points all around, but don't be too frustrated with the fate of the aging world-eaters in political and economic influence. They and their offspring who carry their mantle will get theirs in due time. It's inevitable. Their descendants might be rich but they won't be safe; a dismantled, chaotic world will bear its fangs against even the elite's descendants, just like it's done in the past. Revolutions, war machinations, etc. There's no escaping comeuppance even for the wealthiest of the wealthy and powerful. If I recall correctly, even the Rothchilds suffered a major blow by the Nazis, and we've already seen how the upper echelon of society in a country like China or Russia can't escape an inflamed government that targets them for their money or opinions. Communist or likewise governments also have a history of bearing a revolving door to the cemetary even for their most staunchly loyal political figures.

Also, the elite are a den of vipers and always will be. The phrase "crabs in a bucket" doesn't just apply to the rest of us. If outside forces don't strike them then it'll be the serpent next to them that does. Epstein didn't kill himself, after all. And as for the old and dead? There's always Hell.

Setting the world aside, how is your loved one? Last I heard they were finally doing better after having been terribly sick for like a month after their second Covid vaccination. Are they more inclined to listen to the vaccine info you find these days? Are they at least healthier and safer?
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Edit: Delta PLUS?
ARE YOU KIDDING?

 

[BLEACHED.COM]

Is Fauci going to go to jail for perjuring himself in front of the senate?