US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Gar For Archer]

Also from what I recall its wasn't that Russian subs weren't so awesome, it was their payloads, their numbers and the discovery they had orders to nuke the West Coast off the face of the map when WW3 kicked off came as a surprise. Granted, that's the entire point of MAD but remember Gates being a bit shook up about what he learned from his counterparts after the USSR was no more.

Murmansk is still a closed oblast to this day.

On the topic of Russian subs, the new Severodinsk class isn’t worrying because it’s significantly better than the Virginia class - it’s because after decades of US submarine supremacy, the Russians have finally put out a vessel on par with our technology, such that in a direct fight between the two, we no longer have a clear technological advantage. The new fast-attack submarine is meant to re-establish that technology gap to ensure that US subs are once again one step ahead of the Russians.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

And I'm pretty disgusted at the direction our military is currently being warped into by the TPTB. Maybe we need to get our asses kicked in a conflict for TPTB to wake the fuck up. I do certainly hope it doesn't happen under Biden because... well, I don't need to go there, do I?

We basically just did, unless you mean actually militarily defeated in a near-peer conflict. I hope that embarrassing shitshow that was the Afghan pullout was enough to light a fire under the Pentagon's ass rather than a carrier battle group getting gutted but I fear it won't be.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

You're talking about the Soviet subs that had fires break out onboard from poor maintenance, correct? I have no idea how a submarine sinks while moored in dock like K-429 did. That's practically India levels of incompetence, and they almost lost a sub because they forgot to close a hatch!

Yeah that and worse happened, they put an sub whose reactor nearly melted down, killed some of the crew right away and the rest over the years back into service. Their reactor design was shit and all those subs had issues; nevertheless, the Soviets had teeth. No one knew for years the sub that was near Cuba during the Missile Crisis had nukes and standing orders to launch so of course the Navy repeatedly dropped charges on it.

 

[Realistic Elephant]

We basically just did, unless you mean actually militarily defeated in a near-peer conflict. I hope that embarrassing shitshow that was the Afghan pullout was enough to light a fire under the Pentagon's ass rather than a carrier battle group getting gutted but I fear it won't be.

If it weren't, the US is at its weakest strategic position since the late 1970s.

 

[Terrifik]

Give your kid the shot says cathedral

Benefits of Pfizer Child Shot Likely Outweigh Risks, FDA Says

The staff of the Food and Drug Administration said the benefits of Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE’s Covid-19 vaccine for young children likely outweigh its risks, ahead of a meeting next week where experts will weigh whether the shot should be cleared for use.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[Billy Beer]

The Chinks have hypersonic missiles
The Yanks have Star Wars. (Not talking about the film)

I know who wins in that scenario.

Give your kid the shot says cathedral

Benefits of Pfizer Child Shot Likely Outweigh Risks, FDA Says

The staff of the Food and Drug Administration said the benefits of Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE’s Covid-19 vaccine for young children likely outweigh its risks, ahead of a meeting next week where experts will weigh whether the shot should be cleared for use.

www.bloomberg.com

'Likely' isn't a science. I want hard facts and figures, which can't be produced because it hasn't even been trialled on kids...

 

[Kane Lives]

Give your kid the shot says cathedral

Benefits of Pfizer Child Shot Likely Outweigh Risks, FDA Says

The staff of the Food and Drug Administration said the benefits of Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE’s Covid-19 vaccine for young children likely outweigh its risks, ahead of a meeting next week where experts will weigh whether the shot should be cleared for use.

www.bloomberg.com

The more they push this, the more I outright disbelieve their lies.

Unfortunately, the sheeple are still nodding their heads along with this near where I am, though I'm beginning to see people making jokes at this. (Humour is always a great veil for heterodox opinions).

 

[the fall of man]

The Chinks have hypersonic missiles
The Yanks have Star Wars. (Not talking about the film)

I know who wins in that scenario.

Star Wars was 80's tech though - the Chinese and Russians now supposedly have satellite killers, and I'm pretty certain that in the late-Obama/early-Trump era, we were publishing news about keyhole precision space ballistics and cutting edge UAVs? If we haven't figured out how to load a satellite with tungsten US flagpoles to dump en masse on enemy population centers, we probably deserve to be barraged by cheap Chinese missiles

 

[Snekposter]

Star Wars was 80's tech though - the Chinese and Russians now supposedly have satellite killers, and I'm pretty certain that in the late-Obama/early-Trump era, we were publishing news about keyhole precision space ballistics and cutting edge UAVs? If we haven't figured out how to load a satellite with tungsten US flagpoles to dump en masse on enemy population centers, we probably deserve to be barraged by cheap Chinese missiles

We haven't because tungsten is heavy as fuck. Might as well build ion cannon satellites. Just as much initial mass, no radioactive fallout, and reusable without needing to fly up more heavy-as-fuck rods.

 

[Only A Retard Sometimes]

Star Wars was 80's tech though - the Chinese and Russians now supposedly have satellite killers, and I'm pretty certain that in the late-Obama/early-Trump era, we were publishing news about keyhole precision space ballistics and cutting edge UAVs? If we haven't figured out how to load a satellite with tungsten US flagpoles to dump en masse on enemy population centers, we probably deserve to be barraged by cheap Chinese missiles

too damn expensive. and tungsten is too heavy. In the cold war there were missiles that allowed F-15 to down satellites and the navy can use the SM-3 to shoot down low orbit targets. plus there is the the ground based interceptor of which the US has 50 on hand.

F-15 shooting down a satellite

Spy sat USA-193 exploding after interception with a SM-3 fired from USS Lake erie

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

All right, boys and girls. Man the goalposts. It begins…
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On one hand, one can hope that this is the straw that breaks the camel’s back and is met with vast condemnation and non-compliance. That with the existing backlash/vaccine hesitancy/its downstream effects, that the absurdity behind this push for de facto booster mandates stirs significantly more normies and fence-sitters to join the side of freedom and make this untenable to enforce. I think there are many pro-vaxx/anti-mandate individuals who happily got jabbed but will refuse to comply with this. Because it finally starts to sink in for them that having their ability to work/eat/pay bills held hostage by a fucking vaccine (that should be a personal choice) really doesn’t feel good and disturbingly resembles the infancy of a life-as-a-subscription social credit system.

On the other hand…

Give your kid the shot says cathedral

Benefits of Pfizer Child Shot Likely Outweigh Risks, FDA Says

The staff of the Food and Drug Administration said the benefits of Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE’s Covid-19 vaccine for young children likely outweigh its risks, ahead of a meeting next week where experts will weigh whether the shot should be cleared for use.

www.bloomberg.com

So, when faced with the fact that instead of getting jabbed, important people like doctors, truck drivers, policemen, pilots, etc. would rather be laid off, and the fact that this hurts the labor market with even MORE job vacancies, AND the fact that, partially because of this, there's a supply chain shortage, meaning that people can't get food, water, etc., your response is not to concede that maybe this whole "vaccine mandate" isn't such a good idea, but to triple down with booster mandates. When people are already pissed at you for the vax mandates.

..........

 

[Gar For Archer]

Star Wars was 80's tech though - the Chinese and Russians now supposedly have satellite killers, and I'm pretty certain that in the late-Obama/early-Trump era, we were publishing news about keyhole precision space ballistics and cutting edge UAVs? If we haven't figured out how to load a satellite with tungsten US flagpoles to dump en masse on enemy population centers, we probably deserve to be barraged by cheap Chinese missiles

As it is currently, tungsten telephone poles are a pipe dream. Dropping something insanely heavy from a great height requires you to first lift said heavy thing to said great height, and our current methods for getting things into orbit are not particularly efficient. This limitation prevents them from being deployed en-masse in [current year], so 99% of the time you’re better off just using conventional bombs or a nuke.

 

[ditto]

The whole hypersonics thing REEKS of missile/bomber gap.

Of course with hindsight it's 'obvious' the Soviets themselves had reached terminal stagnation

The CIA covered up the nuclear accident at Kyshtym in the 50s because they had models that showed the Soviet economy going exponential in the 60s and 70s.
Glowies didn't want the nascent nuclear industry getting shut down because they believed we'd need every advantage to fight off the superior Soviet command economy.

 

[Billy Beer]

Star Wars was 80's tech though - the Chinese and Russians now supposedly have satellite killers, and I'm pretty certain that in the late-Obama/early-Trump era, we were publishing news about keyhole precision space ballistics and cutting edge UAVs? If we haven't figured out how to load a satellite with tungsten US flagpoles to dump en masse on enemy population centers, we probably deserve to be barraged by cheap Chinese missiles

70's tech, still a useful idea. A satellite that can scratch your arse with a laser beam from space.

Star wars' idea was having a missile barrage on a satellite to shoot down IGBM's. swap that with lasers and chinks can have the fastest missiles on earth, you can't outrun a laser.

To be autistic, and probably wrong, i don't like the term hypersonic missile, while saying it flies in 'space'. It doesn't fly in space, it just touches the outer atmosphere (stratosphere?) and the calculation for speed of sound is different the further away from Earth you get (including a few other variables)

UAV's and UCAV's, will be limited in the west VS chinkland, as, according to some international war treaties and conventions, a lethal strike cannot be launched from a platform, without the final input coming from a human being. As in, you cannot program a host of UVAC's to go on auto-pilot and carpet bomb beijing, unless they are all manned by people, with specific orders and acnkowledgements saying they can launch. Where as the chinks can just send drones on auto-pilot to flatten San Fran.

Still though, I'll give the yanks the nod for far out crazy nazi tech. You guys have Lightning and storm creating technology, as well as Satellites that can start Earthquakes, active camoflauge and a whole host of other 'out-there-but-totally-real' advanced tech. Not all of it is guns, bullets, planes and conventional warfare either...

 

[Oxous]

Also from what I recall its wasn't that Russian subs weren't so awesome, it was their payloads, their numbers and the discovery they had orders to nuke the West Coast off the face of the map when WW3 kicked off came as a surprise. Granted, that's the entire point of MAD but remember Gates being a bit shook up about what he learned from his counterparts after the USSR was no more.

Murmansk is still a closed oblast to this day.

Russia's navy is very fun. Not to PL too much but I have heard some uh... second or third-hand some stories from a Russian marine, stories that would probably make @JosephStalin facepalm. One story always stuck to me though, in perfect memory: his ship needed to conduct a live-fire drill with a Moskit to figure out the source of a technical problem, but it was the early 90s so there were no spare Moskits in the entire fleet. What did the brass do? A fleet admiral ordered him and his unit to steal a Moskit from a corvette. He also added that the fleet admiral told them to do it "by force if necessary."

 

[Only A Retard Sometimes]

70's tech, still a useful idea. A satellite that can scratch your arse with a laser beam from space.

Star wars' idea was having a missile barrage on a satellite to shoot down IGBM's. swap that with lasers and chinks can have the fastest missiles on earth, you can't outrun a laser.

To be autistic, and probably wrong, i don't like the term hypersonic missile, while saying it flies in 'space'. It doesn't fly in space, it just touches the outer atmosphere (stratosphere?) and the calculation for speed of sound is different the further away from Earth you get (including a few other variables)

UAV's and UCAV's, will be limited in the west VS chinkland, as, according to some international war treaties and conventions, a lethal strike cannot be launched from a platform, without the final input coming from a human being. As in, you cannot program a host of UVAC's to go on auto-pilot and carpet bomb beijing, unless they are all manned by people, with specific orders and acnkowledgements saying they can launch. Where as the chinks can just send drones on auto-pilot to flatten San Fran.

Still though, I'll give the yanks the nod for far out crazy nazi tech. You guys have Lightning and storm creating technology, as well as Satellites that can start Earthquakes, active camoflauge and a whole host of other 'out-there-but-totally-real' advanced tech. Not all of it is guns, bullets, planes and conventional warfare either...

What they will do is have a fighter pilot or something out there that is manned with UCAV as his wingmen. The New B-21 is optionally manned. They can have one piloted with some others just copying the manned one.

 

[ditto]

Where as the chinks can just send drones on auto-pilot to flatten San Fran.

And wipe out their spies in the tech industry?

Max Zorin did nothing wrong.

 

[Billy Beer]

What they will do is have a fighter pilot or something out there that is manned with UCAV as his wingmen. The New B-21 is optionally manned. They can have one piloted with some others just copying the manned one.

You cna have a fleet of UCAV's. By 'Manned' and final input, I mean a human has to see the target, have it recorded by another, non combat vehicle (or a vehicle not engaged in this particular combat), the target cleared and varified to have lethal force used against it, then a human pushing the final button.

The west can't plot a course on google maps for UCAVs and tell them to unleash the payload when they see the Golden Gate bridge, without any of the other checks in place.

That said, we haven't had a full blown war with this new tech. The last time we used planes in anger, we were using maps and rulers, not GPS and satellites. So in a world war, all of those conventions could be thrown to the wind.

 

[Snekposter]

And wipe out their spies in the tech industry?

Max Zorin did nothing wrong.

Remember, James Bond got a big fancy medal from the USSR for keeping their primary R&D area going. Where else would they steal all their technology from?

EDIT: @Hot Cup of Joe There are no international arms treaties when the US goes gloves off, for the simple reason that nobody is capable of enforcing them. Things like WP and cluster munitions are technically legal only because nobody's been willing to tell the USA to knock it off. "Yes, we flattened Beijing with a fleet of unmanned strategic bombers. What are you going to do about it?"

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Remember, James Bond got a big fancy medal from the USSR for keeping their primary R&D area going. Where else would they steal all their technology from?

EDIT: @Hot Cup of Joe There are no international arms treaties when the US goes gloves off, for the simple reason that nobody is capable of enforcing them. Things like WP and cluster munitions are technically legal only because nobody's been willing to tell the USA to knock it off. "Yes, we flattened Beijing with a fleet of unmanned strategic bombers. What are you going to do about it?"

And who would tell us to know it off exactly.

The UN?

Lets be completely real, the only reason the UN is able to have Zoe Quinn on to talk about bullying is because DC is a Swamp that aids the UN in their Globalism bullshit. In a universe with an actual Conservative mandate the United States could tell the UN to go get fucked because We are their primary source of funds.