Alec Baldwin's 'prop firearm' kills one, injures another

Sheriff's office: Alec Baldwin discharged prop gun that killed crew member, wounded director

Baldwin is one of the film's star actors and producers. He went to the sheriff's office willingly and provided a statement to investigators, sheriff's office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

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Actor Alec Baldwin discharged a "prop firearm" that killed a cinematographer and injured a the director of the movie Rust, being filmed on a set south of Santa Fe, a county sheriff's office spokesman said late Thursday.

Halyna Hutchins, 42 and the director of photography for the movie, died at University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque. The film's director, Joel Souza, was hospitalized in Santa Fe, Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

A source closed to the investigation said Baldwin, 63, was questioned by investigators late Thursday and was seen by a New Mexican reporter and photographer in tears.

Investigators are still trying to determine if the incident was an accident, Ríos said. No charges have been filed, and the investigation remains open, Ríos wrote in a news release.

The prop was fired at Bonanza Creek Ranch, where filming was underway, the sheriff's office said in an early evening news release. Baldwin stars in the production.

Hutchins died from her injuries after she was flown to University of New Mexico Hospital, according to the sheriff's office. Souza was taken to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center, where he is receiving emergency care, the sheriff's office said. Attempts to get comment from Baldwin were unsuccessful.

“We received the devastating news this evening, that one of our members, Halyna Hutchins, the Director of Photography on a production called ‘Rust’ in New Mexico died from injuries sustained on the set,” John Lindley, the president of the International Cinematographers Guild Local 600, and Rebecca Rhine, the executive director, said in a statement, as reported by Variety. “The details are unclear at this moment, but we are working to learn more, and we support a full investigation into this tragic event. This is a terrible loss, and we mourn the passing of a member of our Guild’s family.”

Deputies were investigating how the accident occurred and "what type of projectile was discharged," the sheriff's office said in an earlier news release.

Rust Movie Productions did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Filming for Rust was set to continue into early November, according to a news release from the New Mexico Film Office. It's described as the story of a 13-year-old boy left to fend for himself and his younger brother following the death of their parents in 1880s Kansas, with New Mexico doubling for Kansas.

Guns firing blanks have been blamed for deaths in past movie productions. Online Hollywood news site Deadline reported, "Actor Jon-Erik Hexum was killed Oct. 18, 1984, on the set of the TV series Cover Up when he accidentally shot himself in the head with a gun loaded with blanks. And in 1993, Brandon Lee, the son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee, died after he was shot in the head by a gun firing blanks on the set of The Crow. Both incidents were determined to have been accidents."

This is a developing story and will be updated.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

https://twitter.com/Villavelius/status/1451499563903242242

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They're still going. Despite being a prolific poster on Twitter they don't seem to have much presence there but now people have found an excellent target to mock every new post is getting thoroughly commented on.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

This faggot is a menace to the people of New York City every time he comes here. He skated on a vicious assault on a poor slob in Greenwich Village. He should be charged with negligent homicide at the very least and his fake spic trust fund bitch should be shunned.

Never point a firearm at anyone, regardless, unless you are aiming to shoot. That's basic bitch firearms safety.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

They're still going. Despite being a prolific poster on Twitter they don't seem to have much presence there but now people have found an excellent target to mock every new post is getting thoroughly commented on.

Who the fuck is "they", nigger?

 

[X Pac Heat]

Sources close to Mr. Baldwin report that he is going to announce that he is actually a woman and is undergoing hormone treatments.

 

[Least Concern]

Those saying that Baldwin should have checked that the gun was empty after taking it, then presuming he even knew to do that, if this was while filming a scene where he needed to fire the gun, then of course he would have seen ammunition in the chambers if he checked. I guess you can argue that he should have taken the ammo out and confirmed they were blank rounds before firing, but you're really starting to stretch what the responsibilities of an actor are versus the people who are supposed to literally be in charge of the safety of firearms on a set.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

Not a fan of Alec Baldwin but there's only so much responsibility placed on him (or all actors in general) when it comes to prop weaponry. There are special units for prop weaponry. If the prop gun guy fixes the gun for you and tells you it's OK to shoot (most shoot blanks to produce smoke but no bullets of any kind), you're supposed to be able to trust them. It's what they're getting paid to do on set, their onus. If this one prop guy has told you it was OK to shoot 500 times, and all previous 500 times turned out OK, why would you suddenly double check to make sure he did his job right?

 

[X Pac Heat]

I'm not going to say Baldwin should have checked the cylinder and the bullets to make sure they were not real rounds...

...but I will say he should have hired a competent person to actually do that job.

Lock Him Up!

If this one prop guy has told you it was OK to shoot 500 times, and all previous 500 times turned out OK, why would you suddenly double check to make sure he did his job right?

Except they actually had two misfires from that gun before this incident, so all previous times were NOT okay.

 

[byuu]

Those saying that Baldwin should have checked that the gun was empty after taking it, then presuming he even knew to do that, if this was while filming a scene where he needed to fire the gun, then of course he would have seen ammunition in the chambers if he checked

I think the last thing you'd want is the actor fucking around with the gun himself.
He's just gonna drop the rounds or accidentally discharge it or put the drum back in wrong, etc..

 

[Un Platano]

I'm not going to say Baldwin should have checked the cylinder and the bullets to make sure they were not real rounds...

...but I will say he should have hired a competent person to actually do that job.

Lock Him Up!



Except they actually had two misfires from that gun before this incident, so all previous times were NOT okay.

Unless he hired a child or a literal exceptional individual to load their prop guns, the person in charge of the guns was competent enough to be responsible for them. You're only holding him directly accountable for someone else's mistake because you personally dislike him.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Who the fuck is "they", nigger?

The poster in the Twitter thread posted by the person I replied to. The one whose genius take on the whole affair was "maybe a Trump support arranged for the accident to make Baldwin look bad!"

 

[X Pac Heat]

Unless he hired a child or a literal exceptional individual to load their prop guns, the person in charge of the guns was competent enough to be responsible for them. You're only holding him directly accountable for someone else's mistake because you personally dislike him.

Welcome to the the thread, try actually reading it next time friend.

To bring you up to speed.

- The person hired flat out herself said she didn't feel she was ready to do the job, had only worked on one film previously. Was hired due to nepotism and her actual experience was apparently being a TikTok thot.

- Baldwin is the producer on this film and hired non union workers in a rush because his actual crew walked out due to unsafe work conditions.

- After 5 years on Kiwifarms I'd expect someone to spot obvious shitposting, especially when it's literally a famous Trump quote.

 

[Kulee Baba]

Not a fan of Alec Baldwin but there's only so much responsibility placed on him (or all actors in general) when it comes to prop weaponry. There are special units for prop weaponry. If the prop gun guy fixes the gun for you and tells you it's OK to shoot (most shoot blanks to produce smoke but no bullets of any kind), you're supposed to be able to trust them. It's what they're getting paid to do on set, their onus. If this one prop guy has told you it was OK to shoot 500 times, and all previous 500 times turned out OK, why would you suddenly double check to make sure he did his job right?

Except he's producer on the film. So he is responsible for hiring incompetent people. And the prop gun was having problems before the death happened.

Also again no need to point guns at people, even if they're unloaded. Because you know there's always a chance for human error.

 

[Un Platano]

After 5 years on Kiwifarms I'd expect someone to spot obvious shitposting, especially when it's literally a famous Trump quote.

If you actually believe in what you're posting (which you clearly do), it's not shitposting. Hiding your uninformed opinions under a veneer of ' just shitposting m8' is what people do when they're allergic to introspection.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

The poster in the Twitter thread posted by the person I replied to. The one whose genius take on the whole affair was "maybe a Trump support arranged for the accident to make Baldwin look bad!"

So just say "he".

 

[Gar For Archer]

If you actually believe in what you're posting (which you clearly do), it's not shitposting. Hiding your uninformed opinions under a veneer of ' just shitposting m8' is what people do when they're allergic to introspection.

If you actually read the thread (or, hell, even the facts of the case elsewhere), you’d know that parts of his crew had already walked off set due to safety concerns (including multiple other instances of firearms accidents that didn’t harm anyone), and that the person who handed him his gun did not have the authority to do so, and that the only person who DID have that authority wasn’t even on set and is only questionably qualified for her job in the first place.

Baldwin wasn’t just the lead actor (who SHOULD still examine the gun and exhibit some basic firearms safety knowledge even if it’s not his “responsibility” to do so), he’s the producer. He literally IS indirectly responsible for safety on set in general, and directly responsible when he sees safety violations so bad that half his crew walks and instead of halting production and addressing these issues, he hires scabs to take their place and keep on trucking along safety be damned.

 

[Art Kassul]

Except he's producer on the film.

Isn't it common for everyone and their mom to be listed as producers on any film? I've seen producer credit rolls that rival complete holocaust death tolls in length.

The Boys , The Rookie Ban Live Guns After Alec Baldwin's Fatal Rust On-Set Shooting Incident

The showrunners of The Boys and The Rookie are taking action after the shooting death of Halyna Hutchins on Alec Baldwin's upcoming Western film Rust

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The Boys , The Rookie Ban Live Guns After Alec Baldwin's Fatal Rust On-Set Shooting Incident​

Showrunners on ABC's police drama The Rookie and Amazon Prime Video's gritty superhero show The Boys have banned the use of "live" guns on their sets. The changes come in response to the prop gun misfire that left cinematographer Halyna Hutchins dead and injured director Joel Souza.

Effective immediately, The Rookie showrunner Alexi Hawley outlined the new policy in a memo to the show's staff, first reported by The Hollywood Reporter and confirmed by PEOPLE. Although the show has used "live" weapons on occasion for "big, outside set pieces," they will now only use "Air Soft guns with CG muzzle flashes added in post."

Alec Baldwin Film Set Had Previous Accidental Gun Discharges, Crew Members Say

They expressed concerns over gun mishaps and working conditions just days before the shooting that killed the cinematographer Halyna Hutchins.

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According to the affidavit by the detective in the Santa Fe County sheriff’s office, the gun used in the shooting was set up by Hannah Gutierrez, the production’s armorer, and handed to Mr. Baldwin by Dave Halls, the assistant director.

Before fatal shooting at Alec Baldwin movie set, some workers walked off to protest conditions

Santa Fe-area District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies said prosecutors are reviewing evidence in the "Rust" set shooting and do not know if charges will be filed.

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The gun Baldwin used was one of three that Gutierrez had set on a cart outside the building where a scene was being rehearsed, according to the court records. Halls grabbed the firearm from the cart and brought it inside to the actor, unaware that it was loaded with live rounds, a detective wrote in a search warrant application.

It was unclear how many rounds were fired. Gutierrez removed a shell casing from the gun after the shooting, and she turned the weapon over to police when they arrived, the court records say.

He said he never witnessed any formal orientation about weapons used on set, which normally would take place before filming begins.

I guess it's back to prostitution for Hannah Marie Reed Gutierrez.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

So just say "he".

The Twitter idiot or the Kiwi poster? Because I don't check people's pronouns on either site.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

I think the last thing you'd want is the actor fucking around with the gun himself.
He's just gonna drop the rounds or accidentally discharge it or put the drum back in wrong, etc..

There's already a long established SOP for handing anyone any revolver; that is cylinder swung open w/ two fingers through the frame, barrel down, grip presented to the shooter. The shooter can then grasp the gun as normal, visually inspect & confirm the revolver is loaded/unloaded; all they need to do is close the thing & proceed as intended.

It's not something complex or difficult to learn, even for actors.

 

[SITHRAK!]

My granddad taught me basic firearm safety when I was 6. Common sense doesn't require a degree or certification, contrary to the belief of some mongoloids, currently.

If you think the role of an armorer is covered just by ‘basic firearm safety’ then it just might be you that’s the exceptional individual.

Armorer also takes in not just ‘basic firearm safety’, but training others, reloading, manufacturing blanks if none are commercially available, creating partially-obstructed barrels so gas-operated semis and autos firing blanks can cycle, firearm maintenance and repair, safe and secure storage, transport of weapons and ammo, inventory control and security, legal permits and compliance, and on-set immediate safety practices.

You almost might say that this whole problem was due to a fucking retard thinking that a knowledge of ‘basic firearm safety’ was enough to do the job of armorer. Can you imagine being so hilariously fucking stupid and ignorant of what an armorer actually does and still thinking that ‘basic firearm safety’ knowledge is sufficient?

 

[RodgerDodger]

Those saying that Baldwin should have checked that the gun was empty after taking it, then presuming he even knew to do that, if this was while filming a scene where he needed to fire the gun, then of course he would have seen ammunition in the chambers if he checked. I guess you can argue that he should have taken the ammo out and confirmed they were blank rounds before firing, but you're really starting to stretch what the responsibilities of an actor are versus the people who are supposed to literally be in charge of the safety of firearms on a set.

The thing that stands out to me, is that he accepted the gun from the Assistant Director, who informed him the gun was safe. How long has Baldwin been a professional actor? How many movies? How many invoking firearms, and him using firearms on set/on film. He sure as shit knows the protocols for firearm safety on set. You only accept a gun from the designated Armorer. You only hand the weapon to the designated Armorer when shooting is complete. This is going to be the key element of negligence of which he was a major part.