Alec Baldwin's 'prop firearm' kills one, injures another

Sheriff's office: Alec Baldwin discharged prop gun that killed crew member, wounded director

Baldwin is one of the film's star actors and producers. He went to the sheriff's office willingly and provided a statement to investigators, sheriff's office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

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Actor Alec Baldwin discharged a "prop firearm" that killed a cinematographer and injured a the director of the movie Rust, being filmed on a set south of Santa Fe, a county sheriff's office spokesman said late Thursday.

Halyna Hutchins, 42 and the director of photography for the movie, died at University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque. The film's director, Joel Souza, was hospitalized in Santa Fe, Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

A source closed to the investigation said Baldwin, 63, was questioned by investigators late Thursday and was seen by a New Mexican reporter and photographer in tears.

Investigators are still trying to determine if the incident was an accident, Ríos said. No charges have been filed, and the investigation remains open, Ríos wrote in a news release.

The prop was fired at Bonanza Creek Ranch, where filming was underway, the sheriff's office said in an early evening news release. Baldwin stars in the production.

Hutchins died from her injuries after she was flown to University of New Mexico Hospital, according to the sheriff's office. Souza was taken to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center, where he is receiving emergency care, the sheriff's office said. Attempts to get comment from Baldwin were unsuccessful.

“We received the devastating news this evening, that one of our members, Halyna Hutchins, the Director of Photography on a production called ‘Rust’ in New Mexico died from injuries sustained on the set,” John Lindley, the president of the International Cinematographers Guild Local 600, and Rebecca Rhine, the executive director, said in a statement, as reported by Variety. “The details are unclear at this moment, but we are working to learn more, and we support a full investigation into this tragic event. This is a terrible loss, and we mourn the passing of a member of our Guild’s family.”

Deputies were investigating how the accident occurred and "what type of projectile was discharged," the sheriff's office said in an earlier news release.

Rust Movie Productions did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Filming for Rust was set to continue into early November, according to a news release from the New Mexico Film Office. It's described as the story of a 13-year-old boy left to fend for himself and his younger brother following the death of their parents in 1880s Kansas, with New Mexico doubling for Kansas.

Guns firing blanks have been blamed for deaths in past movie productions. Online Hollywood news site Deadline reported, "Actor Jon-Erik Hexum was killed Oct. 18, 1984, on the set of the TV series Cover Up when he accidentally shot himself in the head with a gun loaded with blanks. And in 1993, Brandon Lee, the son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee, died after he was shot in the head by a gun firing blanks on the set of The Crow. Both incidents were determined to have been accidents."

This is a developing story and will be updated.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

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Isn't it common for everyone and their mom to be listed as producers on any film? I've seen producer credit rolls that rival complete holocaust death tolls in length.

They're listed in order of precedence/seniority, from what I understand. Everyone after the first couple are just vanity credits.

 

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From prostitute to hollywood armorer in two short years!

Her father should have missed his target when he fired off into whoever he was banging. Alas, old habits and good training die hard.

 

[X Prime]

Isn't it common for everyone and their mom to be listed as producers on any film? I've seen producer credit rolls that rival complete holocaust death tolls in length.

Today I learned that you can make a movie without a producer.

 

[Brahma]

He should have had the courage of his convictions and not been involved in a movie that glorified, never mind merely featured, gun violence.

Feel bad for the victim, and the armourer probably deserves jail time, but fuck feeling sorry for this faggot

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Alas, old habits die hard and good training dies easy.

Ftfy fren.

 

[Art Kassul]

He should have had the courage of his convictions and not been involved in a movie that glorified, never mind merely featured, gun violence.

Feel bad for the victim, and the armourer probably deserves jail time, but fuck feeling sorry for this faggot

Ultimately, Alec Baldwin's hypocritical and vainglorious fetishisation of gun violence is to blame for this ordeal.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

Those saying that Baldwin should have checked that the gun was empty after taking it, then presuming he even knew to do that, if this was while filming a scene where he needed to fire the gun, then of course he would have seen ammunition in the chambers if he checked. I guess you can argue that he should have taken the ammo out and confirmed they were blank rounds before firing, but you're really starting to stretch what the responsibilities of an actor are versus the people who are supposed to literally be in charge of the safety of firearms on a set.

Bullshit. Someone hands you a firearm, you’re now responsible for it. If I hand you a pistol, are you just going to take my word for it that it’s unloaded? I know if those roles were reversed, I’d check.

Cassandra Damper was sentenced to 10 years in prison for accidentally shooting someone because she was handling a gun she’d been told was unloaded. Rules for thee? Will Baldwin escape prosecution due to his “White Privelege”?

Woman sentenced to prison after Facebook Live stream shooting

During sentencing, Cassandra Damper tearfully admitted to her role in the shooting of Devyn Holmes.

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[Crex Crex]

You’d think Hollywood would have learned how to properly handle firearms after The Crow.

Most people in hollywood can't do 2+2, do you really think they'd be smart enough to learn from their mistakes?

 

[oldTireWater]

It not like it's the first time this has happened.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...hoot-children-in-bungled-hostage-display.html

French marines shoot children in bungled hostage display​

Seventeen people have been injured, including a child left in a critical condition, after French soldiers fired live bullets instead of blanks during an open day display.

By Our Foreign Staff 29 June 2008 • 11:21pm

Fifteen civilians and two soldiers were injured in the incident which involved a demonstration by members of a marines parachute regiment of hostage liberation exercises.
Four of the 17 were seriously injured, with two described as critical, following "incomprehensible" scenes at the barracks near Carcassone, in the country's south-west.
According to local authorities, five children who were watching the display were among those hurt. Five helicopters, 11 fire brigade first-aid vehicles and two ambulances rushed to the scene and ferried the injured to at least five hospitals.
One soldier had been detained last night. Although no explanation was immediately forthcoming for why the wrong ammunition was loaded into weapons, police said there was no suggestion it was a deliberate act. No information was available about what sort of weapons had been used
"All hypotheses are being considered," said a national police spokesman, adding that the weapons had been "seized and placed under lock and key."
French President Nicolas Sarkozy said he urgently awaited the results of a top-level military probe into the incident, adding that he "shares with the families the pain caused by this drama."
"My first thoughts are with the victims. Everything will be put in place to care for them," Mr Sarkozy said.
Herve Morin, France's defence minister, went "immediately" to Carcassone after being told of the incident, he said in a statement.
Colonel Benoit Royal, head of the army's information unit, said a number among the injured were from military families.
Bernard Lemaire, the chief of the regional administration in Aude, said that investigators believed the deadly ammunition was loaded by mistake.
"The question being asked is 'Did the soldier engage in a criminal act or not?'," Mr Lemaire said. "For now, no one can answer that, but the theory being worked on is one of error."

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Tombstone Re-Enactment Goes Sour — Fellow Actor Shot By Idiot Who Didn’t Check His Gun, Fired Live Rounds Instead Of Blanks​

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TOMBSTONE, ARIZONA — If you’ve ever seen Tombstone (1993), you’re probably a fan of the loosely-based historic gunfight which occurred in OK Corral between Wyatt Earp, Doc Holliday, and a bunch of rowdy vaqueros. Well, a group of onlookers were in for a bad taste of reality when one of the actors showed up with a loaded six-shooter. According to CBS News, one of the actors in the Tombstone Vigilantes re-enactment group arrived late to set and engaged in the fight with live rounds. One actor was shot in the upper groin and a female bystander was also hit in the ensuing barrage. The actor was transported immediately to a nearby hospital in Tucson where he underwent life-saving surgery. The woman suffered shrapnel damage related to a round landing nearby and refused treatment.
According to police, the actor arrived late to set and did not properly inspect his firearm before discharging it. Future re-enactments have been put on hold pending the investigation. The Cochise Sheriff’s Officer allegedly found one live round in the chamber and five shells, indicating that five live rounds may have been used.

“Tombstone takes pride in the safety and security of its townspeople and tourists alike and the citizens of Tombstone can be assured that stringent safety protocol will be enforced prior to allowing any further gunfight skits,” the Marshal’s Office said in a statement.

It is extremely uncommon for live rounds to make it onto a film or re-enactment set. Why? Because there are stringent inspection policies in place for theater when real firearms are used.
Real firearms tend to bring an authenticity to staged conflict. Every single day in theaters and film sets across the country, live firearms are used without a problem. This is because, at the very least, each firearm is visually inspected before the actor goes into a scene — taking out the chance of negligent discharge.
This re-enactment group obviously did not observe those rules — choosing to ignore the first fundamental rule of firearm safety and paying dearly for it.
First rule of firearms: treat every firearm as if it is loaded.
There is never an exception to this rule.





Why, all of the sudden, did these re-enactors feel they were exempt? That’s the better question. It’s events like today that make any responsible gunowner cringe. As it turns out — they weren’t exempt. And thankfully, only one person was seriously injured.

Proper Firearms Handling In Theater​

If the actor arrives late to set, that is still no excuse to forego safety checks. A simple check would have resolved that his firearm was loaded with live ammunition and that could have been rectified.
For those unfamiliar, gun rules in theater changed drastically in the past twenty years. Whereas in prior times, people just depended on one another to check the firearms prior to them going out — the Crow (1993) proved to be the turning point in safety protocol on stage.
In that film, Brandon Lee was fatally shot in a scene involving multiple firearms. It proved to be a wake-up call for the industry and future films dictated that someone on set needed to be personally accountable for the firearms used by the actors at all times.
This translates into having a firearms safety officer who, prior to issuing firearms used in a scene, will inspect the firearm with the actor to confirm that it is indeed either a.) unloaded or b.) loaded with the proper ammunition.
In theater, the only proper ammunition is a blank — a percussion cap with no munition. And there is also a standing policy of never aiming a live firearm directly at another actor. In close range scenes, it is acceptable practice to aim at an angle that would not result in a direct hit. The reason for this is mostly for the comfort of the actor about to be shot. Because the shooter and the stage manager or FSO has likely inspected the firearm — but the actor being shot may not have the opportunity to do so.
So, as you can see, there are plenty of fail-safes in place to ensure the safety of all actors on a live re-enactment or theater set. We’re left wondering what in the hell this re-enactor was thinking and surely hope that the group is able to implement the correct safety protocols in the future.

There's already a long established SOP for handing anyone any revolver; that is cylinder swung open w/ two fingers through the frame, barrel down, grip presented to the shooter.

That's not practical with most single-action revolvers, as they use a loading gate instead of a swinging cylinder. It is a minor inconvenience to check if they're clear.

 

[X Pac Heat]

If you actually believe in what you're posting (which you clearly do), it's not shitposting. Hiding your uninformed opinions under a veneer of ' just shitposting m8' is what people do when they're allergic to introspection.

Go back to reddit, faggot.

 

[Mike Stoklasa]

Trump is the literal goddamn boogeyman to these people at this point, isn't he?

The dude literally runs everything.

 

[SITHRAK!]

Fresh OC, enjoy.

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Cassandra Damper was sentenced to 10 years in prison for accidentally shooting someone because she was handling a gun she’d been told was unloaded.

A big part of that sentence was for tampering- she called the cops and reported the victim had shot himself despite the fact the whole thing had been streamed and recorded on Facebook.
One day they'll hopefully learn that "I didn' do nuffin" is not a legal defense.

 

[Vince McMahon]

If you don't agree with the core values of this site than you'd probably be happier if you stayed away.

If there was ever a post deserving of a "Go back to reddit, faggot." it's this one.

Read the room/site, you fucking mong.

I know where I am. It's just kinda funny to see people, who congregate with an explicit purpose of bullying mental deficients/retards talk of "moral duty".

Or does this touch a nerve when someone points out an obvious fact about this website?

 

[SITHRAK!]

I know where I am. It's just kinda funny to see people, who congregate with an explicit purpose of bullying mental deficients/retards talk of "moral duty".

Or does this touch a nerve when someone points out an obvious fact about this website?

We're observers, you smug cunt. You must have missed the part about us not being an "autistic illuminati".
Every word of that post implies you're a better person because you're not like 'us'.
Don't pretend you're morally superior if you're rolling around in the same mud-pit we are.

 

[Snekposter]

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Fresh OC, enjoy.

EDIT to avoid doubleposting:

A big part of that sentence was for tampering- she called the cops and reported the victim had shot himself despite the fact the whole thing had been streamed and recorded on Facebook.
One day they'll hopefully learn that "I didn' do nuffin" is not a legal defense.

One of those people is a trigger-happy psychopath with anger issues and the other one is just a film character.

 

[RodgerDodger]

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Isn't it common for everyone and their mom to be listed as producers on any film? I've seen producer credit rolls that rival complete holocaust death tolls in length.

The Boys , The Rookie Ban Live Guns After Alec Baldwin's Fatal Rust On-Set Shooting Incident

The showrunners of The Boys and The Rookie are taking action after the shooting death of Halyna Hutchins on Alec Baldwin's upcoming Western film Rust

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The Boys , The Rookie Ban Live Guns After Alec Baldwin's Fatal Rust On-Set Shooting Incident​

Alec Baldwin Film Set Had Previous Accidental Gun Discharges, Crew Members Say

They expressed concerns over gun mishaps and working conditions just days before the shooting that killed the cinematographer Halyna Hutchins.

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Before fatal shooting at Alec Baldwin movie set, some workers walked off to protest conditions

Santa Fe-area District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies said prosecutors are reviewing evidence in the "Rust" set shooting and do not know if charges will be filed.

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It’s common for everyone to be listed as producer. But Baldwin does seem to be one of the main actual producers. He and the Director (whom he shot) are the two main writers. Baldwin is the money point for the movie. All funding comes from or is because of him. This would very much appear to be an Alec Baldwin production.

 

[Gar For Archer]

I know where I am. It's just kinda funny to see people, who congregate with an explicit purpose of bullying mental deficients/retards talk of "moral duty".

Or does this touch a nerve when someone points out an obvious fact about this website?

First off, this site is anti-bullying. It is actively against site policy to go around fucking with lolcows, and you will be mocked for trying to do so. The only time interacting with cows is encouraged is when they come here themselves, which nobody is forcing them to. And no, shit-talking people amongst ourselves on a forum while having zero real-world impact on their lives is not “bullying”.

Second, this isn’t the own you think it is. Personally, I think we all have a moral duty to document and mock retards on the Internet as an example to others, just like I think anyone who handles a gun has the moral duty to be knowledgeable about how it works and practice gun safety.

Third, go back to Reddit, faggot.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

@oldTireWater
That's not practical with most single-action revolvers, as they use a loading gate instead of a swinging cylinder. It is a minor inconvenience to check if they're clear.

Good point; but then I'd reasonably expect that it could still be handed over with the gate open (loaded/unloaded as situation demands), and that the shooter could still visually & manually check (i.e. rotate & count) the status of the firearm themselves in the armorer's presence, before closing the gate & proceeding. The steps taken should be the same, just modified for type.

Granted, a lot of older single sixes need to be put on a half-cock notch for the cylinder to rotate freely for loading, before being cocked for effect & fired. The only variation of this that I can think of is if the armorer does these actions & confirms them with the actor, who is then handed the revolver fully loaded & hammer down (to accommodate truly exceptional actors).

I can easily imagine this happening when Baldwin tried to lower the hammer from being cocked, and it slipped from his fat, clammy, tired old fingers.

 

[Smug Cat]

It’s common for everyone to be listed as producer. But Baldwin does seem to be one of the main actual producers. He and the Director (whom he shot) are the two main writers. Baldwin is the money point for the movie. All funding comes from or is because of him. This would very much appear to be an Alec Baldwin production.

It's not entirely uncommon for a famous actor or a moneyman to be thrown a producer credit without actually being responsible for any production tasks. It's completely possible he's responsible for the relevant staffing, but we can't really know that just from the facts you've listed. It's probably going to be a hot minute before authorities untangle who is specifically responsible for the dangerous conditions on set.

 

[Vince McMahon]

We're observers, you smug cunt. You must have missed the part about us not being an "autistic illuminati".
Every word of that post implies you're a better person because you're not like 'us'.
Don't pretend you're morally superior if you're rolling around in the same mud-pit we are.

Learn to speak for yourself and don't speak for the entire community.

Personally, I think we all have a moral duty to document and mock retards on the Internet as an example to others

As an example to what end? What moral duty is there to mock someone, who's unlikely to better himself/herself?