Alec Baldwin's 'prop firearm' kills one, injures another

Sheriff's office: Alec Baldwin discharged prop gun that killed crew member, wounded director

Baldwin is one of the film's star actors and producers. He went to the sheriff's office willingly and provided a statement to investigators, sheriff's office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

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Actor Alec Baldwin discharged a "prop firearm" that killed a cinematographer and injured a the director of the movie Rust, being filmed on a set south of Santa Fe, a county sheriff's office spokesman said late Thursday.

Halyna Hutchins, 42 and the director of photography for the movie, died at University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque. The film's director, Joel Souza, was hospitalized in Santa Fe, Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

A source closed to the investigation said Baldwin, 63, was questioned by investigators late Thursday and was seen by a New Mexican reporter and photographer in tears.

Investigators are still trying to determine if the incident was an accident, Ríos said. No charges have been filed, and the investigation remains open, Ríos wrote in a news release.

The prop was fired at Bonanza Creek Ranch, where filming was underway, the sheriff's office said in an early evening news release. Baldwin stars in the production.

Hutchins died from her injuries after she was flown to University of New Mexico Hospital, according to the sheriff's office. Souza was taken to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center, where he is receiving emergency care, the sheriff's office said. Attempts to get comment from Baldwin were unsuccessful.

“We received the devastating news this evening, that one of our members, Halyna Hutchins, the Director of Photography on a production called ‘Rust’ in New Mexico died from injuries sustained on the set,” John Lindley, the president of the International Cinematographers Guild Local 600, and Rebecca Rhine, the executive director, said in a statement, as reported by Variety. “The details are unclear at this moment, but we are working to learn more, and we support a full investigation into this tragic event. This is a terrible loss, and we mourn the passing of a member of our Guild’s family.”

Deputies were investigating how the accident occurred and "what type of projectile was discharged," the sheriff's office said in an earlier news release.

Rust Movie Productions did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Filming for Rust was set to continue into early November, according to a news release from the New Mexico Film Office. It's described as the story of a 13-year-old boy left to fend for himself and his younger brother following the death of their parents in 1880s Kansas, with New Mexico doubling for Kansas.

Guns firing blanks have been blamed for deaths in past movie productions. Online Hollywood news site Deadline reported, "Actor Jon-Erik Hexum was killed Oct. 18, 1984, on the set of the TV series Cover Up when he accidentally shot himself in the head with a gun loaded with blanks. And in 1993, Brandon Lee, the son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee, died after he was shot in the head by a gun firing blanks on the set of The Crow. Both incidents were determined to have been accidents."

This is a developing story and will be updated.

 

[RodgerDodger]

It's not entirely uncommon for a famous actor or a moneyman to be thrown a producer credit without actually being responsible for any production tasks. It's completely possible he's responsible for the relevant staffing, but we can't really know that just from the facts you've listed. It's probably going to be a hot minute before authorities untangle who is specifically responsible for the dangerous conditions on set.

His problem is regardless of where he falls in the list of bullshit producers, he clearly was some form of at least semi authoritative producer. And he was the producer on set when the safety violations occurred, when the main staff walked out over dangerous conditions, when they decided to just bus in morons and continue production, and when the cinematographer was killed. His overall liability, both criminal and civil is going to be insane. Even if he somehow avoids prison he will end up living under a bridge.

 

[SITHRAK!]

Found an interesting article, archived here:
Two lines immediately stood out to me about the stupid cunt they hired to be Lead Armorer:
"Gutierrez-Reed is the daughter of legendary Hollywood armorer Thell Reed who trained her from a young age"
and
"She also admitted in the podcast interview (the she did last month) that she found loading blanks into a gun to be 'the scariest' thing because she did not know how to do it and had sought help from her father, legendary gunsmith Thell Reed, to get over the fear."

So she was 'trained from a young age' by a 'legendary' armorer but also didn't know how to load a firearm with blanks, and was scared by having to do so.
Yeah, that adds up.

 

[CarlosDanger]

As a gun owner, if someone handed me a gun, I would double check and triple check to make sure I know the gun is safe to use.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

. Even if he somehow avoids prison he will end up living under a bridge.

Wrong. His lawyers will sacrifice some underling.

BTW, how many women did Harvey Weinstein kill?

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

Wrong. His lawyers will sacrifice some underling.

BTW, how many women did Harvey Weinstein kill?

How many women did Phil Spector kill?

 

[oldTireWater]

Good point; but then I'd reasonably expect that it could still be handed over with the gate open (loaded/unloaded as situation demands), and that the shooter could still visually & manually check (i.e. rotate & count) the status of the firearm themselves in the armorer's presence, before closing the gate & proceeding. The steps taken should be the same, just modified for type.

Granted, a lot of older single sixes need to be put on a half-cock notch for the cylinder to rotate freely for loading, before being cocked for effect & fired. The only variation of this that I can think of is if the armorer does these actions & confirms them with the actor, who is then handed the revolver fully loaded & hammer down (to accommodate truly exceptional actors).

I can easily imagine this happening when Baldwin tried to lower the hammer from being cocked, and it slipped from his fat, clammy, tired old fingers.

Hollywood should be more familiar with single-action revolvers, and their operation, than just about anyone but Single-Action-Shooters-Society OG Cosplay faggots.

 

[Smug Cat]

he clearly was some form of at least semi authoritative producer.

Was he? The only evidence I've seen for that is the producer credit. Did we have something else better indicating his actual role on set?

 

[SITHRAK!]

Learn to speak for yourself and don't speak for the entire community.

Falling back on implying I'm arrogant... coming from someone lecturing us about morality (while being ignorant of the fundamental rules of the site). What a hypocritical little turd you are.

Isn't (incorrectly) pigeonholing the entire community as a hivemind, as you are doing, just as bad as my "speak(ing) for the entire community"?
More hypocrisy.

If you don't like it here, go elsewhere, where you can huff farts with a bunch of other censorious hypocritical dipshits. Reddit or Rationalwiki would be about your speed, I think.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

How many women did Phil Spector kill?

What's your point?

 

[spinch]

Forgive me if it's been addressed, but under what circumstances would there even need to be live ammunition on the set?

The guy on the Legally Armed America YT channel has a rule in his "gun room" that he does his videos in that anyone entering with a firearm has to deposit their cartridges/magazines in a bag outside the door. He doesnt allow live ammo anywhere near the guns on his "set" (which 99% of the times as just his workshop or whatever), and even that is a situation where: a) there isnt anyone "behind the camera," b) there is never a reason to point a gun "at" anyone, c) the lone person in the room still stringently follows the four basic rules of gun safety.

Lots of gun youtubers will check and clear the weapon five times as soon as they pick it up on camera, even though they already checked it five times before they started filming.

'live' ammunition in the film or theatre industry refers to ANYTHING in the gun- so that could be blanks w/ wax and paper in them, wooden/plastic bullets for "reloading" a gun on camera, or even real live ammunition.

i can't think of a case in which i personally have ever witnessed real ammunition being brought onto a set, but i remember doing a show once where we sourced a vintage gun from a local patron, and it came loaded and it had to be cleared and the ammunition was brought back to the original owner of the gun. I also know that sometimes in film ammunition can be used for shots of the gun being fired. It will usually be fired into a target/wall/etc of some sort and the armorer and props master will be looking on and will clear the set like a range.

This could be a case where they had live ammunition on set for such a shot, and the new armorer (remember, non-union scabs were brought in after a walkout) just didn't bother checking the gun. Any live, legitimate ammunition on a union set should be marked and color-coded. My theory is they just didn't open the gun at all ever. They were a bunch of untrained sacks of shit and passed it off as a cold gun because for some reason they thought the crew before them would've done their jobs before walking out.

 

[Snekposter]

Was he? The only evidence I've seen for that is the producer credit. Did we have something else better indicating his actual role on set?

It appears as though he was also providing significant funding from his own pockets, in which case his Producer status has major teeth to it.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

As an example to what end? What moral duty is there to mock someone, who's unlikely to better himself/herself?

Consequences; so that others take notice of them as cautionary tales, and possibly avoid making the same mistakes. Being shamed publicly used to be a thing for reasons, and it's being brought back in a big way by those who should know better; even if the lessons are lost on them.

 

[69ing Ur Mom]

As an example to what end? What moral duty is there to mock someone, who's unlikely to better himself/herself?

So tard wranglers know to keep their tards off the internet. We don't need more of them trooning out and becoming motherfucking rapists.

 

[Billy Beer]

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From prostitute to hollywood armorer in two short years!

Goddamn, that filthy little slut. This post is getting bookmarked and those pictures are getting filed under 'W' for Wank bank.

 

[Bear Powers]

There are plenty of stage-guns that replicate recoil & gasses, using compressed air and/or battery/motor, which drives a weighted bolt & causing the thing to bounce around. They were originally developed by the military for virtual range training & qualification, with everything from Berettas to Brownings. After that, adding extra CGI effects is easy & mostly outsourced.

However; these systems are complicated, require more maintenance, malfunction fairly often, and can cost much more than a normal replica firearm.

The gun nerd in me always wondered exactly what was going on with the guns in Danger 5 - see 22:12 if the link doesn't work correctly, go to 23:15 for more:

The bolts reciprocate and they seem to expel spent cartridges but no gas or flash is emitted from the end of the barrel, only from the ejection port. It never occurred to me that it could be a system like you described, but it's still hard to say precisely how those guns work. I can't find any information online. This is an Australian production though, and I don't think it was a particularly expensive production, but being Australian I can figure that maybe the gun wranglers in film production in that country had to come up with something convincing, given their gun laws.

edit: I'm aware that some countries that have insanely restrictive gun laws allow their film productions even more freedom than US moviemakers but I don't think Australia is one of them.

 

[East_Clintwood]

It never occurred to me that it could be a system like you described, but it's still hard to say precisely how those guns work. I can't find any information online.

Have you checked IMFDB? They usually have pretty thorough info on even the fake weapons (they literally have a page dedicated to non guns and shit)

 

[fezjones]

Found an interesting article, archived here:
Two lines immediately stood out to me about the stupid cunt they hired to be Lead Armorer:
"Gutierrez-Reed is the daughter of legendary Hollywood armorer Thell Reed who trained her from a young age"
and
"She also admitted in the podcast interview (the she did last month) that she found loading blanks into a gun to be 'the scariest' thing because she did not know how to do it and had sought help from her father, legendary gunsmith Thell Reed, to get over the fear."

So she was 'trained from a young age' by a 'legendary' armorer but also didn't know how to load a firearm with blanks, and was scared by having to do so.
Yeah, that adds up.

Oh she had that giga cuck progressive dad hyphenated name. Fucking lawl

 

[Bear Powers]

Have you checked IMFDB? They usually have pretty thorough info on even the fake weapons (they literally have a page dedicated to non guns and shit)

Yup, first place I looked. No info about how any of those guns worked.

 

[Michael Janke]

As a gun owner, if someone handed me a gun, I would double check and triple check to make sure I know the gun is safe to use.

do you go to a gun range or empty field and test it. with the safety on and off.
seems like the best way to test it. make sure it functions the way its supposed to.

 

[Ashkechu]

Why did she do it, bros?