Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"

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This is supposed to be heartwarming? Sorry but being a woman doesn’t mean you like bears. I get that it’s supposed to be affirming but that’s like saying oh I guess you’ll get in more car accidents now that you’re a woman or you’ll have foggy lady brain when it comes to balancing your checkbook. A gender stereotype is a gender stereotype and for all we know Mallory doesn’t like bears (or other “lady” things) and thought maybe this made her a man. We have kids taking hormones because they like wearing dresses and the color pink and Disney princesses, so this line of thinking is plausible.

In the comments other trans women are saying “oh that’s true” etc. No it’s not. Women are not universally infantile dummies, okay? Women are alll different. Liking a bear says nothing about your gender, sex, whatever…


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This is supposed to be heartwarming? Sorry but being a woman doesn’t mean you like bears. I get that it’s supposed to be affirming but that’s like saying oh I guess you’ll get in more car accidents now that you’re a woman or you’ll have foggy lady brain when it comes to balancing your checkbook. A gender stereotype is a gender stereotype and for all we know Mallory doesn’t like bears (or other “lady” things) and thought maybe this made her a man. We have kids taking hormones because they like wearing dresses and the color pink and Disney princesses, so this line of thinking is plausible.

In the comments other trans women are saying “oh that’s true” etc. No it’s not. Women are not universally infantile dummies, okay? Women are alll different. Liking a bear says nothing about your gender, sex, whatever…


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Honestly, I've not really known any WOMEN who love teddy bears. I have known plenty of KIDS -- male and female -- who love them.

Not that many adults are still into stuffed animals. Sure, they're cute and all but they are dust magnets and where do you put them? Unless they have some sentimental childhood value (or they are truly a collector's item), I wouldn't be keen on keeping them around. I certainly don't want one as a get well gift. A nice card that I don't have to feel guilty chucking after I feel better is a much better way to show you care.

Some women may like them, but I don't think that is universal or even common. It sounds like this uncle just doesn't know women very well.
 
How did I not know Joe and Laurie Penny used to date? Another one for the "Joe theory eats feminist brains" column. She's a definitional handmaiden.

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Oh my GOD. Laurie Penny is the biggest crybully misogynist-posing-as-feminist on Twitter. Just a stone cold asshole. Woman married to a man but declares herself an authority on all things queer and gay. She REALLY loves that one picture of herself. She "dated" Joe? That's fascinating. But Brits don't really "date", they have ugly ruttings in smelly damp shabby rooms.

I think Mallory has an established pattern of being this type of "lesser narc".
Mallory's also just an asshole. I just see a big middle-aged lesbian, she doesn't pass at all as a man to me. Just a bearded lady. Her long I MAKE JOKES I AM FUNNY bit about gastrointestinal biomes or whatever the fuck just seemed seething with barely repressed anger. Can't wait for shit to go south with old fucked-up Joe. What a mess.

Oh and the third person in that fucked up situation, whatshername from Michigan- I just noticed Joe never tags Lily's own Instagram when he's showing her vagina to the world. And Lily's a self-described professor of "Contemporary Art History" which would have been an oxymoron to us in our arty days at Parsons. Art is either contemporary or it's already history. It can't be both. Did she make up this title herself?
 
How did I not know Joe and Laurie Penny used to date? Another one for the "Joe theory eats feminist brains" column. She's a definitional handmaiden.

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Fascinating! Any chance this is a reference to Joe & Mal? Does the timeline work? Laurie was on the Dear Prudence podcast with Mallory in 2017 so they were at least acquaintances.
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Fascinating! Any chance this is a reference to Joe & Mal? Does the timeline work? Laurie was on the Dear Prudence podcast with Mallory in 2017 so they were at least acquaintances.
Do these people not have real life friends or family they can talk to? Or perhaps a diary they can jot down their obsessive thoughts in? Jfc
 
It's Lily's contractually-obligated biweekly appearance in a Joe social media brag that they have sex.
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She looks thrilled.

Meanwhile:
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Thanks, I will draw my own conclusion: they're not listening. Not even the autistic powerhouse that is Kiwi Farms is capable of making sense out of Joe's spew this time around. (Also, nobody ever "threatens to sue" Joe in the first place. Total lie.)
 
It's Lily's contractually-obligated biweekly appearance in a Joe social media brag that they have sex.
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She looks thrilled.

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Thanks, I will draw my own conclusion: they're not listening. Not even the autistic powerhouse that is Kiwi Farms is capable of making sense out of Joe's spew this time around. (Also, nobody ever "threatens to sue" Joe in the first place. Total lie.)
In this photo, I feel like you can literally see Lily regretting her life choices. Like as she poses for Joe's photo, she suddenly realizes that she's a grown woman, having sex with an obese blowhard, who brags about it. To strangers on the internet. :story:

I also can't help but wonder how much Mallory seethes when she sees these sex bragging posts.
 
It's Lily's contractually-obligated biweekly appearance in a Joe social media brag that they have sex.
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Thanks, I will draw my own conclusion: they're not listening. Not even the autistic powerhouse that is Kiwi Farms is capable of making sense out of Joe's spew this time around. (Also, nobody ever "threatens to sue" Joe in the first place. Total lie.)
Wouldn't it be a pain in the ass (not to mention quite expensive) to sue someone in another country for defamation? Anyway, what's the point? How many people actually saw his stuff? And by people, I mean non-troons. I'm calling Joe a pedophile dog fucking anti-semitic coprophiliac. If he doesn't sue me, you'll know that it is 100% true.

Is Lily starting to troon out or is that just your standard "lesbian" flannel? Penis in vagina sex. Very much the big gay, Joe. I would say it was plain vanilla missionary, too, but Joe is actually too lazy for that. I bet he makes Lily get on top and do all of the work.
 
Fascinating! Any chance this is a reference to Joe & Mal? Does the timeline work? Laurie was on the Dear Prudence podcast with Mallory in 2017 so they were at least acquaintances.
GREAT find.

I think the timeline absolutely works because Mallory only posted Joe a little before summer 2018. When she did, she usually referred to him as "her best pal." She kept the "best friend" label up until MAY 2018 (x).

Upgraded to "best girl" in June (x)

Upgraded to "girlfriend" on July 7 (x)

Two days before Laurie posted about muting her ex.

And for the next week, there was also a flurry of ostentatious dating photos as the Laverys attended a wedding and went to London. Definitely a "new" relationship that Laurie would hate scrolling through. Amazing.

Also, according to Joe, he dated Laurie for 3 months in 2017. Pre-transition for Joe.

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It's Lily's contractually-obligated biweekly appearance in a Joe social media brag that they have sex.
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Thanks, I will draw my own conclusion: they're not listening. Not even the autistic powerhouse that is Kiwi Farms is capable of making sense out of Joe's spew this time around. (Also, nobody ever "threatens to sue" Joe in the first place. Total lie.)
How dare we think Lily looks bored. HOW DARE.

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Joe is tripling down on the notion that he is the victim of "revenge porn."
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Let's check out this "private posting" on a "private Instagram"!
I made this screencap myself. I did not have an Instagram account. You can see the bright blue "Follow" button in the top right corner--if this image had been private, I could not have viewed it unless I 1.) had an Instagram account and 2.) was an approved follower of Bunkersluts:
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[Side Note: Bunkersluts did go private shortly before its demise. I lost access to it at that point. However, it was public for most of the time it was up.]
Joe insists these images were posted on Bunkersluts, which was locked. But hold on...this one was posted on Joe's personal Instagram. Again, that blue "Follow" button in the top right corner shows that it was publicly available. As of right now, 27 October 2021, it is still up and publicly available:
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And now, instead of loudly insisting that he's sOoOoOoO proud of these abhorrent images, Joe admits that they're causing him shame distress.
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Joe says: "I shared intimate photos with a small group of friends. Someone screencapped them and sent them to people who hate me."

The truth: Joe posted the images publicly; evidence of this can be clearly seen in the screencaps. He's right that someone who hates him (me) capped that trash, but not in a fucking covert terf op where the images had to be smuggled out of Bunkersluts via the underground Glinner railroad. I just visited the public Instagram pages like anyone else.

Terrible lying as usual, Joe. Better luck next time.
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Joe is tripling down on the notion that he is the victim of "revenge porn."
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Let's check out this "private posting" on a "private Instagram"!
I made this screencap myself. I did not have an Instagram account. You can see the bright blue "Follow" button in the top right corner--if this image had been private, I could not have viewed it unless I 1.) had an Instagram account and 2.) was an approved follower of Bunkersluts:
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[Side Note: Bunkersluts did go private shortly before its demise. I lost access to it at that point. However, it was public for most of the time it was up.]
Joe insists these images were posted on Bunkersluts, which was locked. But hold on...this one was posted on Joe's personal Instagram. Again, that blue "Follow" button in the top right corner shows that it was publicly available. As of right now, 27 October 2021, it is still up and publicly available:
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And now, instead of loudly insisting that he's sOoOoOoO proud of these abhorrent images, Joe admits that they're causing him shame distress.
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Joe says: "I shared intimate photos with a small group of friends. Someone screencapped them and sent them to people who hate me."

The truth: There was no Bunkersluts mole or covert terf ops. Joe posted the images publicly; evidence of this can be clearly seen in the screencaps. Someone who hates him (me) capped that trash and posted it here.

Terrible lying as usual, Joe. Better luck next time.
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Gawd, he can't even be a competent villian, just a fucking lazy pervert, that the world already has too many of, this ain't new shit - or even new excuses. I am horrified and bored by him, he doesn't need a thread he can join the ranks, folk are holding out or rubbernecking Mallory I guess?
 
Laurie Penny certainly has a type. Her previous partner “Margaret Killjoy”:
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Maybe her pussy isn't "sumptuous". Maybe her pussy is so bad it actually breaks men.

It doesn't matter if Joe retroactively made the photos private. At one point they were public. Joe, that's not how the internet works.

If someone had hacked into his private account and shared these, I might feel bad (mostly for Mallory who probably didn't consent to have those posted in the first place. Did you even ask her, Joe?) But, I don't have sympathy for stupidity.

Joe, if you are too much of a boomer to understand that the internet is forever, you should log off. Permanently.
 
It doesn't matter if Joe retroactively made the photos private. At one point they were public. Joe, that's not how the internet works.
He didn't even do this. One of them was posted publicly and is STILL publicly available as of right now. The other was public for most of its lifetime; Bunkersluts only went private for a short time before being deleted entirely.
 
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