Global Supply Chain Crisis 2021: Megathread - A cozy thread for watching the supply chain fall apart just in time for the holidays

[George Lucas]

You’re exceptional.
Yes, you can do it in a pot.
No, you don’t want to leave a hot stovetop unattended all day.
Buying a $20 slow cooker won’t bankrupt anyone.

Two retards fighting.

No, you don’t use the stove. You use the oven. It only takes around 3 hours.

 

[Sped Xing]

I don't know from trucks, but wtf component is it you have that runs on piss?

Modern trucks are into watersports.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I don't know guys, I try to think about a societal collapse in the USA but I just can't think about a chain of events bad enough to cause. Even a hyper inflation won't do shit, the corporations will survive it, the poor are still dependent on the USA government anyways, the rich will hide behind assets and crypto, and the middle class will just cuck as usual and live paycheck to paycheck with everything they worked up into their whole lives going to ash.

A food shortage will be hard with the amount of food the USA produces, and at worst the government will just expand their authority to ration the shit out of food, almost certainely getting law enforcement to reposses food and supplies from the people who stockpiled and thought they are safe. The most important thing is that every homeless and nigger will be fed enough every day. Maybe there will be the occasional nigger food riot but like before it will be limited to other niggers and middle class.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I don't know from trucks, but wtf component is it you have that runs on piss?

The DEF tub soaks up excess NOx in the exhaust to bring the vehicle into emissions requirements. When a diesel is operating correctly, the temperatures and pressures reached in the cylinder cause the production of a lot of nitrous oxides, which has been deemed Bad and Terrible by the powers that be (it can potentially produce smog and make asthmatics grumpy). The solutions are to operate at a lower compression, compromising the efficiency and power of the engine, or to chemically remove the NOx from the exhaust before it goes out the end of the pipe. VW went for the former in their consumer diesel fleet. Ford tended to go for the latter in theirs, but at least in my experience, there was no way to refill the piss tank, so it would eventually fail and end up with the car spewing out extra NOx and soot on top of it as a byproduct. Fun times.

 

[Jarolleon]

I don't know guys, I try to think about a societal collapse in the USA but I just can't think about a chain of events bad enough to cause. Even a hyper inflation won't do shit, the corporations will survive it, the poor are still dependent on the USA government anyways, the rich will hide behind assets and crypto, and the middle class will just cuck as usual and live paycheck to paycheck with everything they worked up into their whole lives going to ash.

A food shortage will be hard with the amount of food the USA produces, and at worst the government will just expand their authority to ration the shit out of food, almost certainely getting law enforcement to reposses food and supplies from the people who stockpiled and thought they are safe. The most important thing is that every homeless and nigger will be fed enough every day. Maybe there will be the occasional nigger food riot but like before it will be limited to other niggers and middle class.

I remember Serpentza saying that America is really good at making itself look weaker & more fragile than it actually is, it seems to be coming true here. I wonder if even those people who want to "smash the system" are on some level aware that actually following through on those words would be suicide, because without modern agriculture supported by global trade & biotech Earth could support less than 10% of its current population (the 17th century is when the global trade in fertilisers like bat guano began, and agricultural innovations dependent on trade started to take off). The middle class will "cuck" because the alternative is Mad Max plus Congo-tier poverty.

Though I suppose the Chinks could grab Taiwan and intensify the chip shortage so that everything the Y2K nuts were worried about could actually happen, but they've been promising to retake the island since forever and they still haven't seized the opportunity.

 

[ZMOT]

I remember Serpentza saying that America is really good at making itself look weaker & more fragile than it actually is. I wonder if even those people who want to "smash the system" are on some level aware that actually following through on those words would be suicide, because without modern agriculture supported by global trade & biotech Earth could support less than 10% of its current population (the 17th century is when the global trade in fertilisers like bat guano began, and agricultural innovations dependent on trade started to take off). The middle class will "cuck" because the alternative is Mad Max plus Congo-tier poverty.

Though I suppose the Chinks could grab Taiwan and intensify the chip shortage so that everything the Y2K nuts were worried about could actually happen, but they've been promising to retake the island since forever and they still haven't seized the opportunity.

this. don't forget all that food that grows needs to be harvested, processed and then moved around. you won't do much of that when there's no gas or it's so exorbitantly expensive it's not economically feasible to do so, which would also affect logistics in general, so on top the the missing gas for the machinery that allows a single dude to harvest whole acres, once that machine breaks down it will take forever to get spare parts or a replacement. everyone adopted modern convenience and processes, any major disruption will be felt across the board.

 

[DavidS877]

The DEF tub soaks up excess NOx in the exhaust to bring the vehicle into emissions requirements. When a diesel is operating correctly, the temperatures and pressures reached in the cylinder cause the production of a lot of nitrous oxides, which has been deemed Bad and Terrible by the powers that be (it can potentially produce smog and make asthmatics grumpy). The solutions are to operate at a lower compression, compromising the efficiency and power of the engine, or to chemically remove the NOx from the exhaust before it goes out the end of the pipe. VW went for the former in their consumer diesel fleet. Ford tended to go for the latter in theirs, but at least in my experience, there was no way to refill the piss tank, so it would eventually fail and end up with the car spewing out extra NOx and soot on top of it as a byproduct. Fun times.

The DEF jug is just an injection system into the exhaust to more fully deal with the NOx, it does feed into a catalytic converter but should have a fairly decent life and nothing should be 'trapped' there, the input Urea is totally refillable, mine uses about a gallon per 1000 miles, actual trucks are going to use more. The part that's problematic is a DPF, which filters out particulates(Diesel Particulate Filter) aka soot. These do load up and require 'regeneration' which is usually automatic by the use of extra fuel to burn it off, but eventually they do have to be replaced/removed and cleaned as they can never get to 100% clean automatically.


And, to keep this somewhat on track, this(or a similar system) is what is generally being required in all trucks in California and why pre-2010 engines are no longer allowed.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Two retards fighting.

No, you don’t use the stove. You use the oven. It only takes around 3 hours.

If you want to cook something for three hours, that’s fine. (And I’ve never heard of anybody making chili in an oven.) A person might not want to spend that long, but they could dump their pork and sauerkraut, or their beef and veggies, or ground beef and beans into the crock pot and just let it go all day, come home to it and all you have to do is just heat up whatever you’re making it on the side.

Like, I’m not saying that you should make every meal in a crock pot, but what a crock pot is for it does better than traditional methods, and you don’t need and expensive programmable one.

 

[Sped Xing]

So apparently my entire computer system blew up, and it was only sensing the DEF not communicating for reasons outside of mortal ken. The mechanic said this is the second brand-new International to pull this shit on him this week. I've been playing phone tag with pajeets for hours and hours trying to get another tractor.


Everything that's ruining my weekend is ruining America:
Overly-specialized unrepairable tech
No local service personnel because why not just have a call bank in Bangcock
Computers programmed by people who think they're smarter than everyone else. I couldn't keep on up to Abiliene where there's a garage that can fix this fucking thing or at least give me a loaner truck, because it shuts down after an hour because clearly I'm just ignoring the check engine light. It's not like West Texas has bigger gaps between dense habitation than Bay Area California.

If I were driving a busted 2007 Freightshaker, I would have had none of these problems. But America is the "new means better" nation. Early adopters of needlessly expensive and non-interchangeable tech from sea to garbage-choked sea.

 

[Lichen Bark]

INB4 next year when hyperinflation gets declared a conspiracy theory and talking about it on twitter gets you banned.

Far-right extremists would have you believe that gas was always cheaper than $6 dollars a gallon, but that was a lie perpetuated by systemic racism in our society. Things have never been this affordable, and people have never had freedoms like they do today. Low prices are a sign of bigotry.

Edit: @Gar For Archer

Brand-name spices are also horribly overpriced for a tiny fucking bottle. I always get mine in big bulk bottles from the international grocers.

Spices are astronomically priced, I have been slowly drying my own for a while now. I have been eating chilies I dried from 2007 (they even seem hotter). Many herbs are perennial as well, so they will come back next year for you in the same spot, and be bigger and larger than when you first planted them. I always thought dried parsley was just green specs, but I can tell you drying your own is literally night and day in taste. You can dry thai basil and put it into your soup, and it blows me away how close to fresh it is. Store basil? I mean it's green and it says basil on the jar, but it's hard to tell tbh.

Drying is good for the lazy, all you need is a place to hang things, or lay them out, that's relatively dry, then you can forget about them. You can leave the leaves right on the branches if you want, and all you do is break off a bit and crumple it into whatever, I think keeping the herbs whole preserves the flavor a lot better. Hopefully when the roving gangs come to rape me, I can dissuade them by trading them some spices. Maybe the intense smell of the herbs reminds them of a less rapey time. Oh, another great thing about many many herbs is that wildlife ignores them, because they taste too strong. Another lazy bonus is that some herbs like basil and chilies flower and make their own seeds. So if you're lazy and forget you have them outside, you can just walk over and clip the now dead flower heads at the end of the growing season (in basils case) and grab some wrinkly peppers, bring them inside, and you have all your seed for next year. I have been eating some herbs from the same plant for 25 years in one case.

My recommendation is just start with one herb you really like, and see where it gets you. I started with chilies, and as you can see, I am still eating them.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

Though I suppose the Chinks could grab Taiwan and intensify the chip shortage so that everything the Y2K nuts were worried about could actually happen, but they've been promising to retake the island since forever and they still haven't seized the opportunity.

BRB, going to check where NVIDIA makes it's chips, as they are a massive part of my portfolio and have posted huge gains for me in the past 5 years...





















FUUUUUUUUUK

 

[veri]

Food banks across the country are beginning to report that they will have to turn people away this winter. Article



But hey, we've got $550 billion dollars to hand out to solar companies, which won't at all turn out like Obama throwing a bunch of money at Solyndra to enrich their executives, who declared bankruptcy before they'd managed to produce any solar panels.

And if a bunch of 80 year old, cancer riddled, low-income black grannies have to starve to feed those millionare CEOs? Well, that's a sacrifice Biden is willing to make!

i’m curious as to what the “food issues” are of 23% of americans. is it not having access to food they need (keyword: need) or is it that the store only had the family sized potato chips and not the party sized?

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

If I were driving a busted 2007 Freightshaker, I would have had none of these problems.

This is why small trucing companies with the cash to do so have been building gliders for the last 10 years. Brand new trucks with "recycled" engines. EPA has been trying to kill gliders for at least the last 5.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

i’m curious as to what the “food issues” are of 23% of americans. is it not having access to food they need (keyword: need) or is it that the store only had the family sized potato chips and not the party sized?

There's a lot of disconnect between what we normally see, and what these numbers report, and the only thing that bridges the gap that I've found is that they *never* specify where these people are. Which leaves me inclined to think its overrepresented in distant suburbs and small towns and rural areas, and underrepresented in cities.

And I imagine the reason they never provide that distinction is because "Poor people struggling with food" is a great left wing position, but "Poor people in Rural areas struggling with food" are just MAGA Chuds who are getting what they deserve. Pretend their troubles are the cities troubles, and its all golden.

This is pure speculation, of course, I just struggle to process the idea that you could have one in four people in a large city struggling with food and not see mass riots in the street at that point. But 70% of a rundown ex-mining town struggling for food is both believable, easy to pass over and never notice, and doesn't leave the locals with anything to riot against effectively - Town Mayors probably in the same boots, and yer not gonna burn down the one family store y'all know the owners of.

 

[George Lucas]

If you want to cook something for three hours, that’s fine. (And I’ve never heard of anybody making chili in an oven.) A person might not want to spend that long, but they could dump their pork and sauerkraut, or their beef and veggies, or ground beef and beans into the crock pot and just let it go all day, come home to it and all you have to do is just heat up whatever you’re making it on the side.

Like, I’m not saying that you should make every meal in a crock pot, but what a crock pot is for it does better than traditional methods, and you don’t need and expensive programmable one.

It doesn’t though. Letting stew sit warm like that for that long only makes it worse, as the proteins start to break down and the vegetable matter disintegrates. If you like using it, that’s fine, but don’t act like it’s objectively superior to using a stove or oven.

 

[Sped Xing]

How is that any different from cooking a stew over a stove or in an oven?

I mean, aside from the crock pot being more convenient and energy-efficient?

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

How is that any different from cooking a stew over a stove or in an oven?

I mean, aside from the crock pot being more convenient and energy-efficient?

I imagine that Crock Pots are designed to be left on on low heat all day, I am not sure I would say that specifically about a Stove Top.

 

[jje100010001]

Interesting take:

https://twitter.com/Tinkzorg/status/1454606704914620421

https://twitter.com/Tinkzorg/status/1454345565668511744

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Everything that's ruining my weekend is ruining America:
Overly-specialized unrepairable tech
No local service personnel because why not just have a call bank in Bangcock
Computers programmed by people who think they're smarter than everyone else. I couldn't keep on up to Abiliene where there's a garage that can fix this fucking thing or at least give me a loaner truck, because it shuts down after an hour because clearly I'm just ignoring the check engine light. It's not like West Texas has bigger gaps between dense habitation than Bay Area California.

If I were driving a busted 2007 Freightshaker, I would have had none of these problems. But America is the "new means better" nation. Early adopters of needlessly expensive and non-interchangeable tech from sea to garbage-choked sea.

It's all style above substance. A "genius" somewhere says "wouldn't it be awesome if we had..." and then an engineer somewhere draws it up and says "yep, totally works, it'll be great and change everything!" And then a bureaucrat agrees and says "everyone should be using this, it's so efficient and futuristic" and then we run into trouble because along the way, everyone forgot that "if something can go wrong, it probably will" because society thinks we've advanced past that rule.

Ironically, some government agencies don't buy into this nonsense and are still using ancient-ass computers and programs running on ancient-ass code because it works. Probably the same reason the Air Force uses the B-52 despite it being almost 50 years old and plans to use it for another 30 years or more.

But just you wait until the stupid computer part you need to operate isn't in your truck, but in your head. Because that's the world these corporate transhumanists at the World Economic Forum want, and the sad part is corporations and governments keep believing in it.

This is pure speculation, of course, I just struggle to process the idea that you could have one in four people in a large city struggling with food and not see mass riots in the street at that point. But 70% of a rundown ex-mining town struggling for food is both believable, easy to pass over and never notice, and doesn't leave the locals with anything to riot against effectively - Town Mayors probably in the same boots, and yer not gonna burn down the one family store y'all know the owners of.

A rundown ex-mining town will have at least a few methheads and opioid addicts who need their fix to go and take whatever food, fuel, and drugs aren't nailed down.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

Ironically, some government agencies don't buy into this nonsense and are still using ancient-ass computers and programs running on ancient-ass code because it works. Probably the same reason the Air Force uses the B-52 despite it being almost 50 years old and plans to use it for another 30 years or more.

Those ancient computers are a liability in their own way because there is just zero replacement parts for when they fail.