Bad Weddings and Wedding Trends - sperg about weddings here

When I first saw that I immediately thought of that guy who married his dating sim waifu on the DS.
Quite a phenomenon.
oh god, I knew there was more of those guys out there. If you think having huge extravagant weddings for marrying a real person is a waste, marrying a fictional character is an even bigger waste.

Reminds me of this one woman from way back when on Weddingbee who came on weddingbee marrying God as a Consecrated Virgin and when people got confused, she would get really pissy and be like "It isn't my job to educate you, just look it up yourself!" and she would compare herself to those same sex couples not being supported in their marriage (this was before 2015 when it was legalized) and how she was being persecuted like them. She was quite the work.

I grew up Catholic and I didn't know that you could even take the vocation of Consecrated Virgin and marry God until her, but she essentially wanted an extravagant wedding with all the trimmings and an elaborate reception and wear an expensive wedding dress.
 
It's almost like that women wouldn't have sex before marriage for a reason
That's such a no-win issue without being able to see the future. (Incoming post that is slathered in the disclaimers of "in my opinion", "from what I know" and "from my experience".)

On the one hand-
  • A woman can get manipulated into dedicating herself emotionally and sexually to a man who has no intentions to commit to her. This is a rising problem that can be fixed by simply having some sense and putting one's foot down whether or not they'd laid out the rules before or at the beginning of the relationship.
  • Childbirth out of wedlock is disgusting and harmful on multiple levels. That being said, no actual birth control is 100% effective outside of abortion, and I understand if that's not an option for some people, regardless of their reasons.
On the other hand-
  • It's incredibly irresponsible and dangerous to legally bind oneself to a man before knowing how he treats her sexually. Plenty of men act one way before they show their true colors through their expectations, respect of boundaries, etc when it comes to sexuality. Some men just change their personality completely while sexually active.
  • Sexual incompatibility can be severe enough that a relationship with that person just isn't going to work. Waiting until one is legally bound to find that out is just begging to ruin your life with nasty surprises.
  • Sex is supposed to be the ultimate physical act of love and care for the other person. Being with someone that you supposedly love for a year or more without being able to be physically intimate with them sounds miserable.
  • A man is even more likely to go behind his lady's back and cheat if he's sexually frustrated, and the same goes for some women. Look at how common it is for men to cheat even while in a sexually active relationship. (Yes, I know some women do it too, but let's be real, they're the exception in comparison.) Celibacy over a long term relationship while waiting for marriage just sounds like a recipe for assured adultery to me.

The more I think about it, the more I wish it were some kind of social expectation and practice that a couple's one year anniversary is the day to propose, but it means he's breaking up with her if he doesn't. The second year anniversary would be the couple's legal wedding day (not necessarily their ceremony and reception day in case they want/need a different time of year or time of week), giving them a year to call it all off if they needed more time to figure out if it's not going to work out. Obviously these traditions wouldn't apply to couples who are much too young, but you get the idea. I know it's not perfect and there are probably some major things that haven't occurred to me, it's just an idea I had that I think would be a massive improvement over the bullshit direction that dating and marriage is going in now. Again, giant "IMO" disclaimer.
 
Every time someone asks me for a gift of cash for their wedding I cheerfully give them fuck all. Especially the couple who added on the invite "to defray our expenses".

Don't have a wedding you have to fucking charge entry to.

I did not personally have a gift registry, and had an insert with the invites specifically requesting no gifts but nominating a charity I volunteered with if people really wanted to mark the occasion. They did not. It costs shitloads of money to attend a wedding. You need shit to wear, the cost of drinks, taxis etc. There was no way I was adding to that cost for guests.
 
The comment's on that other site were saying that's exactly why he hasn't proposed and given her an engagement ring. They're already screwing and playing house, what else can she offer him to encourage him to agree to marry?
Another reason why I advocate waiting to move in together before getting engaged, not necessarily married, but at least have a wedding date set. I understand that there is some financial reasons and benefits as to why one might move in together sooner, but you should have some financial independence with a job IMHO because it can be really risky relying one someone else otherwise.

Also, long distance relationships are a whole other beast, but if you both aren't actively trying to strive towards closing that gap, then it is simply a fantasy relationship.
 
Another reason why I advocate waiting to move in together before getting engaged, not necessarily married, but at least have a wedding date set. I understand that there is some financial reasons and benefits as to why one might move in together sooner, but you should have some financial independence with a job IMHO because it can be really risky relying one someone else otherwise.
That's a great point, about each person having independent, financially responsible and sustainable living situations before taking that next step to maybe get engaged and move in together. A relationship shouldn't be dependent on the two of you living together for it to be able to exist.

I've had that pulled on me before, because the broad didn't wanna keep living with her parents for any longer than absolutely necessasary, and no big surprise, it didn't work out.

I had no desire to marry her either, because I discovered other qualities I didn't care for while living with her. I guess you could say if we did it the other way, I may have made a big mistake, marrying someone I wasn't compatible with in the long run, but I don't think so.

Perhaps if she did stay home longer, maybe matured some more and figured some things out that she wanted to do with her life, that extra time might've made marriage a more realistic option.

Either that, or she'd stay the same, and I would eventually discover we weren't compatible anyway, it just might've taken a little longer.
 
That's such a no-win issue without being able to see the future. (Incoming post that is slathered in the disclaimers of "in my opinion", "from what I know" and "from my experience".)

On the one hand-
  • A woman can get manipulated into dedicating herself emotionally and sexually to a man who has no intentions to commit to her. This is a rising problem that can be fixed by simply having some sense and putting one's foot down whether or not they'd laid out the rules before or at the beginning of the relationship.
  • Childbirth out of wedlock is disgusting and harmful on multiple levels. That being said, no actual birth control is 100% effective outside of abortion, and I understand if that's not an option for some people, regardless of their reasons.
On the other hand-
  • It's incredibly irresponsible and dangerous to legally bind oneself to a man before knowing how he treats her sexually. Plenty of men act one way before they show their true colors through their expectations, respect of boundaries, etc when it comes to sexuality. Some men just change their personality completely while sexually active.
  • Sexual incompatibility can be severe enough that a relationship with that person just isn't going to work. Waiting until one is legally bound to find that out is just begging to ruin your life with nasty surprises.
  • Sex is supposed to be the ultimate physical act of love and care for the other person. Being with someone that you supposedly love for a year or more without being able to be physically intimate with them sounds miserable.
  • A man is even more likely to go behind his lady's back and cheat if he's sexually frustrated, and the same goes for some women. Look at how common it is for men to cheat even while in a sexually active relationship. (Yes, I know some women do it too, but let's be real, they're the exception in comparison.) Celibacy over a long term relationship while waiting for marriage just sounds like a recipe for assured adultery to me.

The more I think about it, the more I wish it were some kind of social expectation and practice that a couple's one year anniversary is the day to propose, but it means he's breaking up with her if he doesn't. The second year anniversary would be the couple's legal wedding day (not necessarily their ceremony and reception day in case they want/need a different time of year or time of week), giving them a year to call it all off if they needed more time to figure out if it's not going to work out. Obviously these traditions wouldn't apply to couples who are much too young, but you get the idea. I know it's not perfect and there are probably some major things that haven't occurred to me, it's just an idea I had that I think would be a massive improvement over the bullshit direction that dating and marriage is going in now. Again, giant "IMO" disclaimer.
Because the Jews and the feminists thought they knew better than a system that lasted for over 5000 years. I know you argument but look around. Ever since the elites got women to give up their only source of power (access to sex and passing on your genes) it was clear men have won the gender war.

Men can fuck and discard women however they want. Weak men become incels because they can't fuck and discard women like their chad brothers can. Women are more and more miserable and it's clear to see why. Misery has taken the West by a landslide and has lowered the value of women. Now she must have sex to compete and must make herself available for sex at all times. She is no longer expected to be a mother or is she allowed to age.

If a husband abused his wife, you bet your arse the neighbours would beat the shit out of him and make sure nothing like that happens again. But this was in a fulfilling community and when women were valued as mothers and wives and not just some piece of meat you can stick your cock in.

Don't get me wrong, plenty of modern women like to pretend they are happy as they fuck around but like most old whores. But that well dries up and when they realise their beauty and youth has gone, you can watch them scramble for years trying to pick some cuck to marry them. They will never be happy and blame men for this and the little pink pill that caused all this hell.

I am a woman myself and it breaks my heart watching women believing they have no choice but to have sex to keep their childish boyfriends and hope they propose when that hardly happens because who the fuck is going to buy the cow if he can get the milk for free? Men gain value as they age, women lose it. He can wait forever, use her youth, and throw her away for the next 18 year old. It's fucking sad.

The ones who suffer the most is the children. Now we have children who were born to single mothers who were sluts or because the boyfriend bailed because society has allowed him to NOT make a commitment to her or the baby. Sure, he may be made to hand over some money if he is caught by the courts, but that does not mean he has to see the kid or be part of the child's life. A child only thrives if they are within a stable home with a mother and father. Now because women and men don't have to grow up, we will have generations of wild, restless children trying to find peace for centuries to come.

The Pill was the final nail in the coffin of Western Civilisation. It has dived the genders part, made women nothing more than holes, made men nothing more than wallets and children nothing more than a bundle of cells.


TLDR: Some Femcel rant on why sex before marriage is the root cause of human misery, the destruction of the family and gender relations.

I look forward to my dumb votes
 
advocate waiting to move in together before getting engaged
Absolutely 100 percent. You have no idea what a person is actually like until you've lived with them for a significant amount of time. Shacking up together for just one week while someone's house is getting fumigated probably won't cut it.
  • Social masks are impossible to keep up 24/7, especially at home.
  • Know your SO's hygiene habits.
  • Know your SO's housekeeping and mess-making habits.
  • Can you even stand being around each other for hours at a time every single day?
  • What are your SO's at-home habits that tip you off about their personality?
I apologize, I think this is veering off topic.

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@Sailor I think at the end of my post, I offered a fairly good launch idea to start working on a solution. I get what you mean, but there's a lot of balancing that needs to happen in order to make the situation a good one, which it very much was/is not in societies that treat a girl/woman's virginity as her most valuable asset. Neighbors also generally never cared when a woman was being beaten by her husband. The Current Year is in pretty bad shape, but that doesn't make the distant past better, it just means the grass looks greener because it's over there.
 
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Back on topic, did my daily look on Weddingwire and saw this bride asking about using growlers, the jugs you use for beer, as centerpieces. It made me think of that stoner bride who was like "You wouldn't judge a bride for having a beer themed wedding" so I looked it up and well, they are shit. Especially with the logos on them.

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What are your opinions? Reminds me of the mason jars from 2015 but worse.
 
Back on topic, did my daily look on Weddingwire and saw this bride asking about using growlers, the jugs you use for beer, as centerpieces. It made me think of that stoner bride who was like "You wouldn't judge a bride for having a beer themed wedding" so I looked it up and well, they are shit. Especially with the logos on them.

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What are your opinions? Reminds me of the mason jars from 2015 but worse.
My opinion? Leave th growlers at the bar where they belong and use vases.

Geez, I'm a guy and I could put together a better wedding than these retards.
 
Back on topic, did my daily look on Weddingwire and saw this bride asking about using growlers, the jugs you use for beer, as centerpieces. It made me think of that stoner bride who was like "You wouldn't judge a bride for having a beer themed wedding" so I looked it up and well, they are shit. Especially with the logos on them.

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Fully labeled beer bottles and weed leaves for weddings so far, huh? What's Next? The guests vape fat clouds in stead of throwing birdseed over the couple after the ceremony?

Snark aside, there are ways to work in some kind of genuine, personal appreciation for something like beer at a wedding. For real beer lovers and not posers, how about offering their own homemade beer at the reception that they brewed together? Or as a wedding favor? Aren't some people starting to do that with mead or something? The off-the-shelf beer bottles with flowers sticking out honestly to me looks very much like ghetto trash and trailer trash. The labels staying on is easily the worst offender in that aspect.
 
So out of curiosity I looked it up and someone actually did that.

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I fucking knew that shit was out there and I knew that if anyone here was going to find it, it was going to be you. God, they all even look like they vape unironically. That is some magnificent cringe-hunting right there, Fia.
 
oh god, I knew there was more of those guys out there. If you think having huge extravagant weddings for marrying a real person is a waste, marrying a fictional character is an even bigger waste.

Reminds me of this one woman from way back when on Weddingbee who came on weddingbee marrying God as a Consecrated Virgin and when people got confused, she would get really pissy and be like "It isn't my job to educate you, just look it up yourself!" and she would compare herself to those same sex couples not being supported in their marriage (this was before 2015 when it was legalized) and how she was being persecuted like them. She was quite the work.

I grew up Catholic and I didn't know that you could even take the vocation of Consecrated Virgin and marry God until her, but she essentially wanted an extravagant wedding with all the trimmings and an elaborate reception and wear an expensive wedding dress.
I believe some convents used to and still follow the nuns married to God. But more on topic itself, looking at some websites about cringy trends I noticed were of course theme/barn weddings, photobooths, assigned or open seating, burlap, going overbudget (this one is bad no matter what due to how much debt you can get in), and others.
 
It's incredibly irresponsible and dangerous to legally bind oneself to a man before knowing how he treats her sexually. Plenty of men act one way before they show their true colors through their expectations, respect of boundaries, etc when it comes to sexuality. Some men just change their personality completely while sexually active.
Immediately thought of this:
There's another skit of the same couple on their wedding night where the man becomes a sexual monster (or how Tarzan probably acted before mating with Jane) at the slightest sensual touch which is much more related to what you're talking about, but I think YouTube yeeted it.
 
Your getting it all wrong. The bargaining chip is getting engaged, for instance, she gets annoyed at his lack of commitment and refuses to move in together or something else like that. Then he could pull that one out, "Alright then, here's an engagement ring. Let's move in together."

From the information she gave in the practice engagement ring post, they are already living together, therefore they are also already sleeping together.

The comment's on that other site were saying that's exactly why he hasn't proposed and given her an engagement ring. They're already screwing and playing house, what else can she offer him to encourage him to agree to marry?

He's already getting everything he wants.

Exactly. I'll add, i don't believe in basing a marriage on whether or not you will finally get laid. What if you're not compatible? What if your hormones are blinding you? What happens if you suffer an illness that leaves you unable to have sex, does your husband just get a pass to leave you because you can't hold up your end of the bargain anymore? That's the deal you made, after all.

Withholding sex is primitively effective but it is a half-measure at best. Withhold the promise of your lifelong companionship, commitment and support--I.e. break up if you don't agree what your long term goals are. Ideally, make this clear before you get into any relationship.

That's where these women make the mistake of staying with someone who says they are apathetic about marriage. If you stay in the relationship despite them declaring they won't give you what you asked for, you signal that you don't really care about marriage, it's optional and really is "just that piece of paper" they keep saying it is.

If you provide an ultimatum and are willing to follow through, you show them that you are willing to provide lifelong companionship, partnership, emotional support and intimacy that you associate with marriage--but only if they commit to marriage. That you don't intend to make a lifelong commitment to somebody if they can't sign a piece of paper, exchange cheap rings, and stand up and make that commitment in front of your friends and family. Which is entirely fair.

Men who get broken up with like this, almost always turn around and marry their next girlfriend within 6-12 months. And it's unlikely she's not putting out, because most people do.

So sex has nothing to do with it. The break up has forced them to realise what marriage really means, and they also realised, surprise surprise, they want it.

Just probably not with you, or they would have realised this a lot sooner.

There's a great book called "Why Men Marry Some Women and Not Others" full of stats and academically conducted interviews with 600 couples about why they got married and how it all came about. Top reason was: the women who get married, are up-front about what they expect from a relationship.
 
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Exactly. I'll add, i don't believe in basing a marriage on whether or not you will finally get laid. What if you're not compatible? What if your hormones are blinding you? What happens if you suffer an illness that leaves you unable to have sex, does your husband just get a pass to leave you because you can't hold up your end of the bargain anymore? That's the deal you made, after all.

Withholding sex is primitively effective but it is a half-measure at best. Withhold the promise of your lifelong companionship, commitment and support--I.e. break up if you don't agree what your long term goals are. Ideally, make this clear before you get into any relationship.

That's where these women make the mistake of staying with someone who says they are apathetic about marriage. If you stay in the relationship despite them declaring they won't give you what you asked for, you signal that you don't really care about marriage, it's optional and really is "just that piece of paper" they keep saying it is.

If you provide an ultimatum and are willing to follow through, you show them that you are willing to provide lifelong companionship, partnership, emotional support and intimacy that you associate with marriage--but only if they commit to marriage. That you don't intend to make a lifelong commitment to somebody if they can't sign a piece of paper, exchange cheap rings, and stand up and make that commitment in front of your friends and family. Which is entirely fair.

Men who get broken up with like this, almost always turn around and marry their next girlfriend within 6-12 months. And it's unlikely she's not putting out, because most people do.

So sex has nothing to do with it. The break up has forced them to realise what marriage really means, and they also realised, surprise surprise, they want it.

Just probably not with you, or they would have realised this a lot sooner.

There's a great book called "Why Men Marry Some Women and Not Others" full of stats and academically conducted interviews with 600 couples about why they got married and how it all came about. Top reason was: the women who get married, are up-front about what they expect from a relationship.
Just to add on to this: yes, most men want the lifelong companionship and intimacy, even if they don't realize it. Many think they just want to date or sleep around, but when you're alone and you get really sick...well, it's on you. Better hope mom's still around or you have REALLY good friends or siblings. Sure, lots of media and other guys act like there's nothing wrong with being an eternal bachelor, but then who are you going to grow old with? Who's going to have your back when shit goes south? And, most importantly, who's going to pull you away from the 12 hour videogame session because you have work in the morning and you still haven't washed your underwear? You can bitch about nagging all you want, but it's not such a bad thing to have someone pushing you to do something. That's why trying to brainwash the modern woman into acting like a man is such a poison pill: it leads to less marriage and leaves both men AND women depressed and frustrated. I could go on, but I won't derail the thread.
 
So now that rice, bubbles, birdseed and fat vape clouds have been recently mentioned, I'm left wondering about what kinds of weird, stupid shit people have sent airborne at the newlywed couples on their departures.

I'm glad that things aside from rice are being used, because I care about the various little critters scurrying and flying about not dying horribly.
The other awful one I'm familiar with is so very horrible in its own way; GLITTER! And I'm not talking about those oversized ones that are basically sequins. Imagine getting that shit in your eyes, embedded into your skin, sifted into your hair, never coming out of your clothes, getting onto fucking everything in your car and at home, on your pets... To the pits of hell with that shit.
Bubbles also aren't the best alternative IMO because of how often the simple process has a malfunction. I'm also not too keen on being accidentally sprayed with sputtered spittle. It's not horrible, just kind of unreliable.
I prefer the birdseed, personally. Just make sure you get the kind that doesn't have sunflower seeds, because they might be a bit much.
 
So now that rice, bubbles, birdseed and fat vape clouds have been recently mentioned, I'm left wondering about what kinds of weird, stupid shit people have sent airborne at the newlywed couples on their departures.

I'm glad that things aside from rice are being used, because I care about the various little critters scurrying and flying about not dying horribly.
The other awful one I'm familiar with is so very horrible in its own way; GLITTER! And I'm not talking about those oversized ones that are basically sequins. Imagine getting that shit in your eyes, embedded into your skin, sifted into your hair, never coming out of your clothes, getting onto fucking everything in your car and at home, on your pets... To the pits of hell with that shit.
Bubbles also aren't the best alternative IMO because of how often the simple process has a malfunction. I'm also not too keen on being accidentally sprayed with sputtered spittle. It's not horrible, just kind of unreliable.
I prefer the birdseed, personally. Just make sure you get the kind that doesn't have sunflower seeds, because they might be a bit much.

What happened to plain old confetti? Paper is biodegradable.

Whoever came up with throwing glitter at a wedding must have really hated the couple. (Actually, come to think of it, there is at least one wedding I wish I could have thrown glitter at and i'm not ashamed to anonymously admit my pettiness.)
 
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