Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

What do you think will happen?

  • Guilty on all charges

    Votes: 282 8.8%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 1,077 33.7%
  • Mistral

    Votes: 264 8.3%
  • Mixture of verdicts

    Votes: 479 15.0%
  • Minecraft

    Votes: 213 6.7%
  • Roblox

    Votes: 132 4.1%
  • Runescape

    Votes: 203 6.3%
  • Somehow Guilty Of Two Mutually Exclusive Actions

    Votes: 514 16.1%
  • KYLE WILL SUBMIT TO BBC

    Votes: 35 1.1%

  • Total voters
    3,199
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So, McGinnis is a complaining witness? Is The Daily Caller stabbing Kyle in the back?

He's the only eyewitness to the Pedosmurf ventilation and the 'victim' of reckless endangerment so the prosecution has to call him so they can do Direct questioning. If they don't, they only get to do Cross questioning when McGinnis is called by the defense.

Essentially, even if McGinnis isn't a 'good' witness or on the Prosecution's side they have to call him to avoid taking a massive self-own.
 
So, McGinnis is a complaining witness? Is The Daily Caller stabbing Kyle in the back?
Considering McGinnis is personally behind Kyle and even has said that the pedo tried to grab the gun from Kyle, I doubt it. Likely the Prosecution trying to get out in front of this witness and discredit his believability.

Just look at some of the things he got him to say

-Got him to say the Daily Caller was founded by Tucker Carlson because Tucker bad
-Got him to admit while being afraid in some of these riots he's never been seriously harmed.
 
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He's the only eyewitness to the Pedosmurf ventilation and the 'victim' of reckless endangerment so the prosecution has to call him so they can do Direct questioning. If they don't, they only get to do Cross questioning when McGunnis is called by the defense.

Essentially, even if McGinnis isn't a 'good' witness or on the Prosecution's side they have to call him to avoid taking a massive self-own.
McGunnis snuck in a detail of the fires and Pross wanted to move on. hopefully he doe
 
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Considering McGinnis is personally behind Kyle and even has said that the pedo tried to grab the gun from Kyle, I doubt it. Likely the Prosecution likely trying to get out in front of this witness and discredit his believability.

Just look at some of the things he got him to say

-Got him to say the Daily Caller was founded by Tucker Carlson because Tucker bad
-Got him to admit while being afraid in some of these riots he's never been seriously harmed.
he admitted to not being harmed in a NYC riot, but had been harmed at other events if i remember correct
 
He's the only eyewitness to the Pedosmurf ventilation and the 'victim' of reckless endangerment so the prosecution has to call him so they can do Direct questioning. If they don't, they only get to do Cross questioning when McGinnis is called by the defense.

Essentially, even if McGinnis isn't a 'good' witness or on the Prosecution's side they have to call him to avoid taking a massive self-own.
If he doesn't feel like he was in danger, couldn't he ask the pros to drop the reckless endangerment charge they've filed on his behalf?
 
If they didn't call McGinness it would arguably be enough to get the charge dismissed where he's the alleged victim.

The real question (which I don't know the answer to because I don't practice in WI) is if the charge is sustainable if he gets up and says something to the effect of "Kyle never made me feel unsafe, I think everything he did was reasionsble". That might be enough for directed verdict for Kyle on that charge.
 
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If he doesn't feel like he was in danger, couldn't he ask the pros to drop the reckless endangerment charge they've filed on his behalf?
I think the state is able to prosecute people on certain crimes even when the person in question who may have been the victim doesn't want charges pressed.

This often happens in domestic violence cases.
 
If he doesn't feel like he was in danger, couldn't he ask the pros to drop the reckless endangerment charge they've filed on his behalf?

He could, but he has no legal power to dissolve that charge. Then again, he can also tell the jury point blank that he was never in danger, never felt in danger, and that Kyle is innocent. Which would kind of torpedo the charge anyway (we hope).
 
If he doesn't feel like he was in danger, couldn't he ask the pros to drop the reckless endangerment charge they've filed on his behalf?
The prosecutor controls the charges, but they don't usually persue stuff to trial if the victim isn't going to cooperate because they can usually just sabotage the case.
 
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The prosecutor controls the charges, but they don't usually persue stuff to trial if the victim isn't going to cooperate because they can usually just sabotage the case.
Would be hilarious to see a federal trial where the victim gets on the stand and says, "get fuck glowies, nothing happened"
 
If they didn't call McGinness it would arguably be enough to get the charge dismissed where he's the alleged victim.

The real question (which I don't know the answer to because I don't practice in WI) is if the charge is sustainable if he gets up and says something to the effect of "Kyle never made me feel unsafe, I think everything he did was reasionsble". That might be enough for directed verdict for Kyle on that charge.
Well, Binger isn't stupid. Would he really bring him on if there was even a slight chance of him becoming a hostile witness?
 
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Well, Binger isn't stupid. Would he really bring him on if there was even a slight chance of him becoming a hostile witness.
He's not stupid, but he is a slimy scumbag, He could get McGinness declared a hostile witness, which would allow him to ask all leading questions and tell the witness to shut up if he answers anything aside from yes or no, like he was improperly doing with the simp cop who scraped videos from twitter yesterday.
 
He's not stupid, but he is a slimy scumbag, He could get McGinness declared a hostile witness, which would allow him to ask all leading questions and tell the witness to shut up if he answers anything aside from yes or no, like he was improperly doing with the simp cop who scraped videos from twitter yesterday.
Binger is playing him like a fiddle right now.

"Do you know of any other medics who were armed with AR-15s?"
 
Different. Mistrial is someone fucked up, but the prosecution gets another chance if they want. Motion to Dismiss is the judge basically going, "The prosecution shit the bed proving the case so hard, the defense doesn't even have to go. Not-guilty".
Mistrial is when the case has been hopelessly derailed, or "rendered invalid through an error in the proceedings," although it also encompasses deliberate misconduct. Dismissal is the result, but can be with or without prejudice. The default is without prejudice, and the case can be brought again, but with prejudice amounts in effect to an acquittal as the case cannot be tried again.

If the prosecution merely absolutely fails to prove their case, that's a different thing called a judgment notwithstanding the verdict. The defense can file a motion for this (or the court can rule it sua sponte) at the end of the prosecution's case, and if they have done so, again after the verdict. This is a different result and is not a dismissal, but outright counts as an acquittal.
 
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