Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)
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Late but, people like Matt Walsh and the RINOs in DC have to realize that Trump wasn't popular because he was "Republican" or because he was Trump. He was popular because he loved America, simple as. Populism and Nationalism are extremely popular with many people within the country, and those people just happen to overlap with Republican interests moreso than Democrat interests.
People like Walsh who want to return to the graceful losers that many Republicans are because it fuels their tugboat are slowly becoming the enemy just as much as the Democrats. Trump whipped up and ran with people's love for America and there's no turning back from that at this point. People on the right had their love for America justified and felt like they finally had someone with the Nation's interests rather than their personal pocketbook on their mind.
I'm pretty sure they were prepping to announce it after their 2 glorious victories in Virginia and Jersey, but a resounding loss in Virginia and a shifty looking "victory" in NJ just makes it look even worse.
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Probably expected a dominating victory on Tuesday. But since Dems are spiteful and hungry, ram that shit through!
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Yes, I think that's the core of the issue. Everyone is caught up in debating CRT, Nu-math, English, Advanced Placement classes, etc.
Those are the trees, the forest is that the entire education system is at its best, a time sink that sucks up the prime of childhood and the teenage years and fills them with a useless and stressful curriculum, and at worst, is producing malformed adults ill-suited for modern society (which is itself unhealthy as well).
There are ways out (I think Finland has had some success with this), but the orthodoxy (esp. teachers unions) will resist change that they can't control.
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You nailed it. People like Trump because he was un ashamed to say he loved America and that you should love it .
I can believe it. The why they plan it comes off like that.
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I just keep wondering how long can they actually keep this going. By January will there even be anyone getting covid?
Does this remain in place forever where someone newly hired a year from now still need the shot?
The really bad thing will be if we do have a new wave as a result of all of these "vaccinated" people in December, then they can start all over again. If there had been no shot at all this virus would have been gone last summer.
I know the answer...it never ends...
Does this remain in place forever where someone newly hired a year from now still need the shot?
The really bad thing will be if we do have a new wave as a result of all of these "vaccinated" people in December, then they can start all over again. If there had been no shot at all this virus would have been gone last summer.
I know the answer...it never ends...
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They would've probably lost NJ by 5 points instead of that vunerable and fortifiable <1 point if this came out 2 weeks ago.
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you have to love the sheer retardation of this administration. What do we do when the people aren't liking what we're offering? Double down of course!Do agree with what others said though, this isn't meant to actually go through, it's meant as coercion to try and wring some further vaccination numbers (and pharma profits) out before it inevitably gets delayed and quietly cancelled. After all, Ontario and Quebec in Leafland just gave up and walked back their provincial healthcare mandates, don't think Biden won't as well once the active resistance (and disastrous polling numbers) kick in.
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It's the point in the spy thriller where the hero who is shackled to the table spits in the face of the supervillain (the Virginia/New Jersey elections) and the villain responds in fury by switching on the laser that will bifurcate the hero (this new OSHA jab mandate.) That's what this act comes off as.
The red state governments better respind in kind. I however do not expect Massachusetts to refuse this mandate; it only increases my resolve to move out of this state.
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...and doesnt the spy usually find a way to escape the laser? We will see.
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yeah, I expected them trying to memory hole it same time last year already like this. what's even more baffling it's not even a burger problem, you could understand the dems being retarded and trying to milk that cow till it's dry, but they're pulling the same shit in europe too.
if the thing about the pfizer contracts is legit it might explain some of it, but even then if that comes out that is political suicide for whole parties, and the more people get sick of that shit the more people will get pissed enough to look into the whole mess.
the smartest choice is just to bow out and let something else replace it in the public conscious, yet here we are.
I've posted that thought last november, winning a battle doesn't necessarily win you the war.
you gotta remember it's easy to dismiss a whole group as idiots, but that's a mistake because it makes you underestimate your opposition. I can pretty much guarantee you there are dems who see the same thing we see and come to the same conclusion, they're not all assclowns on twitter, and the schism didn't suddenly appear after trump lost.
as others mentioned look at their candidates in 2020, if biden is your best worst choice, you fucked up. they already had the problem they gonna have in 2024, but now it's even worse.
another thing is the lack of long term planning, I assume a part of that is they're only able to react, not act. imagine you're in charge to lose an election without losing too hard, and then on the rare occasion your candidate comes out of his election cellar he locks in a female poc as vp. after the summer of love 2020 when you literally can't walk back from that.
now imagine you see the election results in november and then in horror it dawns on you not only did you win, you won in probably the worst way possible. half the country thinks you cheated, and if it ever comes out your party is done (same notion @HTTP Error 404 had if they get caught in the act in NJ). which is probably the same reason part of the gop swamp creatures had no interest in an audit, because it would drag them down with them (like they didn't want people to look too hard into ukraine back then).
and by winning you not only lost your big unifier trump, you're also not the opposition anymore who can just bitch and moan without ever having to do anything. the easiest way to shut up your loudest critic up is by putting him in charge, either he will step up or implode magnifically, but definitely shut up.
also this:
it would be less severe because for starters the admin would actually be coherent and not a bunch of "adults back in the white house" trying to constantly punch each other in the dick or have catfights.
trump is also a business man, if you can work around the mafia in NYC in the 70's and built a fucking tower, pissing in the muesli of some port authorities and unions to get rid of congestion shouldn't be that hard, even if they're in california.
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Quick back of the napkin figures say that OSHA agents have appx 1,500 businesses each to check in Florida alone. Given the appx 2k agents and FL's appx 3million businesses.
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As the conspiracy goes, the jabs are not just ineffective but actively damage the immune system. This is the first flu season here after the vax has been implemented. Thus the pandemic of the AIDS jab needs to be obfuscated by not allowing the existence of a control group.
That's...ummm....how that conspiracy goes and the COVID thread has had some studies and test result comparisons that indicate it might not just be smoke.
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A guy I know in the Air Force has some interesting things to say about the mandate. He says that 15,000 personnel are still unvaxxed across the whole branch but they’re “all in critical jobs” so the Air Force doesn’t know what to do. Apparently the Air Force tried to threaten them with a dishonorable discharge at first but they can’t actually give out an official punishment to the unvaxxed so there is no real pressure for them to get it, just empty threats. He also claims that out of a squadron of 500 personnel at his base, 200 are refusing to be vaccinated.
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Okay, the other question is, how the fuck are they planning on verifying that the businesses who say they are in compliance are, indeed, in compliance?
It’s one thing if some businesses decide to openly defy the mandate and get a bright red target painted on their backs. It’s another thing entirely to just say “yep, all vaxxed!” and rely on the fact that it is literally impossible for OSHA to audit everyone.
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Want USA to collapse
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Honestly it would be healthiest for everyone if they did so, which is why I think they'd instead hold that knowledge in their back pockets.
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To elaborate a bit on this, he explained that didn’t want the vax but he was threatened with his career if he refused so he got it. And then afterwards they told him that actually they wouldn’t have been able to do anything if he hadn’t got it. They are pulling some shady shit with the grunts.
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When the results in Virginia and New Jersey came down, I was initially hopeful, as I saw it going one of two ways:
1) The electoral raping in D+10 and D+16 states would set off MAJOR alarm bells. Much like the alarm bells that would be set off in the GOP if the VA/NJ results were replicated in TX. It really looks bad. With that referendum and clear message sent, they’d see no choice but to back off the mandates to stave off full party collapse. They could even try to spin it to look like they were doing their due diligence to avoid looking weak (“well, we considered it, but after exhausting study and consideration, we’ve decided it’s not feasible. Just working hard to end this pandemic by considering the options.”)
2) They double down and go hard, and bring about all the misery that would involve.
All this^ does, however, is give an opening to republicans to campaign against the mandated vax, and be popular in doing so. They can use broadly appealing arguments like “I’m pro-vaccine, but decisions involving your health should be entirely the choice of the individual in conjunction with doctors. The government has no right to force this.” Basically, the republicans mount a campaign to bring in anyone who opposes this and supports personal/bodily autonomy (legitimately, unlike the harpies who want vax mandates but no limits on abortion). Imagine Trump vs. Harris and Trump says “on day one, I will rip the OSHA rule in half on national TV.” Pretty big opening, no?
I have no idea what they’re doing, or what strategist is advising them in this autism, but this is why I am cautiously optimistic and don’t see these mandates as being a forever thing.
1) The electoral raping in D+10 and D+16 states would set off MAJOR alarm bells. Much like the alarm bells that would be set off in the GOP if the VA/NJ results were replicated in TX. It really looks bad. With that referendum and clear message sent, they’d see no choice but to back off the mandates to stave off full party collapse. They could even try to spin it to look like they were doing their due diligence to avoid looking weak (“well, we considered it, but after exhausting study and consideration, we’ve decided it’s not feasible. Just working hard to end this pandemic by considering the options.”)
2) They double down and go hard, and bring about all the misery that would involve.
All this^ does, however, is give an opening to republicans to campaign against the mandated vax, and be popular in doing so. They can use broadly appealing arguments like “I’m pro-vaccine, but decisions involving your health should be entirely the choice of the individual in conjunction with doctors. The government has no right to force this.” Basically, the republicans mount a campaign to bring in anyone who opposes this and supports personal/bodily autonomy (legitimately, unlike the harpies who want vax mandates but no limits on abortion). Imagine Trump vs. Harris and Trump says “on day one, I will rip the OSHA rule in half on national TV.” Pretty big opening, no?
I have no idea what they’re doing, or what strategist is advising them in this autism, but this is why I am cautiously optimistic and don’t see these mandates as being a forever thing.
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There is no strategy at this point. Wuflu is all they have left. All contingencies have failed, or are moot. As things continue to spiral down the toilet, they are simply reacting because they have no other choice.
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