Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Binger claimed early on that Kyle chased Pedobaum, right?
And that the aerial footage would show this?
(Or am I misremembering that?)

The footage showed no such thing.

Can a prosecutor just lie in court like that without consequences?

Do you really think somebody would do that? Just go on the internetinto court and tell lies?

 

[TheClappening]

Binger claimed early on that Kyle chased Pedobaum, right?
And that the aerial footage would show this?
(Or am I misremembering that?)

The footage showed no such thing.

Can a prosecutor just lie in court like that without consequences?

There was some FLIR footage showing someone marked as Pedobaum heading towards the car lot, and someone labeled as Kyle moving in the same direction some distance behind.

You'd have to be extremely charitable to say Kyle was following Pedobaum, much less pursuing him. This is ignoring that the footage shows Pedobaum ducking behind some cars and then chasing after Kyle in a classic ambush.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

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While the thread is meming on the witness's reply I frankly adore the prosecutor's "Let's talk about that" attempt at grabbing hold off the cliff face the witness just threw them off.

I hope to god that if Rittenhouse is found innocent he sues every news agency who called him a nazi mass murderer into the dirt and reaps millions in settlement cash. The only thing more funny than killing the establishment footsoldiers is having the establishment pay you money after doing it.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the current president feature Kyle in his campaign videos when talking about white supremacist terrorists? Because I'd love to see that lawsuit won over depriving Kyle of his right to presumption of innocence.

I still stand by my Kyle will lose prediction though.

The big one for Grosskreutz' alleged statement posted by his friend that he regrets not killing Kyle is that while he did not post that himself in a court of law he can be made to refute it or not when called as a witness. And this is a man whose choice of which hand he wanks with has been taken from him.

If the defence looks him in the eyes and askes "do you wish you got Kyle before he got you?" I'll be impressed if he has the self control to say "no" convincingly and as soon as he does so that's that shot justified.

 

[anionfarflung]

Also, if Kyle walks, could Grosskreutz be charged with assault/attempted murder?

I think it's possible. It also reflects reality. But it would be a tough row to hoe because Grosskreutz could also claim self defense. I wouldn't be optimistic about this eventuality, though I can wish for it.

 

[waffle]

That was the opening statement, right? You can pretty much say whatever you want.

The jury remembers opening because it's their roadmap of the case. If you lie to them in opening they tend to hold you accountable for it.

 

[LaxerBRO]

How the prosecution is doing:

 

[Myles the Potatophile]

Do you really think somebody would do that? Just go into court and tell lies?

 

[Lards and Lasses]

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If you're ever giving hope to a jury on anything, just remember those idiots existed, voted, and had children.

 

[George Lucas]

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Dammit null give me my reactions!

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

Why does the prosecutor keep bringing in people who are making the defendant look innocent?

Because there isn't anyone else.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Can the prosecution just make a deal?

Illegal possession and violation of curfew.

 

[LUNEKO]

Can the prosecution just make a deal?

Illegal possession and violation of curfew.

As stated by others before in the thread the goal of the state here is to criminalize self defense even if its 110% justified to take guns away and make it illegal to defend from their brownshirts, doesn't matter how indefensible the violent convicted pedo is, they're gonna draw this out for as long as they can to convict Kyle of murder because at the end of the day they don't loose anything anyway if Kyle walks free, just wait until the next trial when another brownshirt crosses the line and gets shot

 

[polyester]

God, I hope binger fucks up and accidentally introduces character evidence for Pedobaum.

The problem is that even if this happens, Sleepy Richards would have to notice it happening to make use of it.

 

[AnOminous]

So far Binger has failed to deliver on a lot of promises in his opening, and that's a big no no.

And a good defense lawyer isn't going to let him forget it either.

"At the beginning of this trial, this guy told you X, Y, and Z. Well do you remember any of that shit showing up?"

 

[Jump]

Is there a Kiwi on the jury? Ha ha.

I think better chance a brain rotted /pol/tard.
This guy had the power to set Kyle free and fucked it up trying to be edgey to a cop.
A kiwi would have been smart enough to not tell jokes and just vote NOT GUILTY no matter what.

 

[NSJAP]

do we have some fresh reddit cope?

 

[DumDum Did Nothing Wrong]

Do you really think somebody would do that? Just go on the internetinto court and tell lies?

Nate The Lawyer brought this up a bit ago on Nick's stream. Kyle's lawyer blew a hole in Binger's opener with the cop multiple times but did not realize it and capitalize it like he should have. Dude seems to be a walking sandbag.

 

[Just_Somebody]

Because there isn't anyone else.

Bicep man is coming onto the witness stand. Can't wait to see how that plays out when he looks like a violent psycho.

 

[ForTheHoard]

It does kind of bug me that rational people got themselves out of serving on this jury due to their principals. Jury nullification is American af.

From Cornell Law School,

Jury Nullification​

A jury's knowing and deliberate rejection of the evidence or refusal to apply the law either because the jury wants to send a message about some social issue that is larger than the case itself, or because the result dictated by law is contrary to the jury's sense of justice, morality, or fairness. ​

Jury nullification is a discretionary act, and is not a legally sanctioned function of the jury. It is considered to be inconsistent with the jury's duty to return a verdict based solely on the law and the facts of the case. The jury does not have a right to nullification, and counsel is not permitted to present the concept of jury nullification to the jury. However, jury verdicts of acquittal are unassailable even where the verdict is inconsistent with the weight of the evidence and instruction of the law.​

See U.S. v. Thomas, 116 F.3d 606 (2d Cir. 1997).​

 

[LaxerBRO]

Just a random thought.

Even it Rittenhouse cannot get off the weapons charge due to the technical reading, as it is my understanding a minor is allowed to possess a firearm under adult supervision. As long as he was with his battle buddy or with the group at Car Source, does that not mean that he was in legal possession.

Additionally, the curfew would not apply to persons on private property with permission.