Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

[Collections Agent]

It appears the press are pre-emptively coping.
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That said, the jury is still the wild card.

Oh yeah the white juries will judge the white teenager who shot white felons in self defense

How racist

 

[Hyro]

It appears the press are pre-emptively coping.
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That said, the jury is still the wild card.

It's not even their fault when most of the potential jurors were hilariously tainted, this is literally the medias own fault

 

[TurkishOreo]

Oh yeah the white juries will judge the white teenager who shot white felons in self defense

How racist

A black jury would probably choose not guilty since Kyle didn't do anything shitty with those 3 black guys on video.

 

[Malodorous Merkin]

I prefer

The Kenosha Kid. It has a better ring and weight to it.

Ser Kyle of House Ritten

 

[WTFisgoingon]

It appears the press are pre-emptively coping.
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That said, the jury is still the wild card.

I'd love to bring it up to them that the people upset about Kyle are also overwhelmingly white, sure you could probably cherry pick a few blacks upset, but the vast majority is definitely white
Blacks simply don't give a rat's ass if their white "allies" die, they are all expendable

 

[Probably An Autist]

A black jury would probably choose not guilty since Kyle didn't do anything shitty with those 3 black guys on video.

ye boi kill da whitey nom sayin

 

[The Keebler Elf]

Don't have any idea if this is even permissible, but what are the chances that Gaige Grosskreutz sees the case against Rittenhouse going south and, under advisement from his lawyer, withdraws from testifying next week in order to avoid emulating the shady car brothers in bringing negative attention to himself, similar to Floyd's drug dealer refusing to testify during the Chauvin trial?

From the commentary I've heard, Grosskreutz is suing the city in an attempt to say the police are at fault for creating a dangerous situation that led to him getting disarmed. If he's going to be a witness, he might be biased in favor of the defense. If Gaige wants that payout, he has to say the police didn't do their job, that the night was violent, and that he was in a dangerous situation because the police were not there to stop the violent rioters. That'll play in to Kyle being there to protect private property and that Kyle was in danger because the people there were violent crazy people.

 

[A_throwaway_name62919]

It appears the press are pre-emptively coping.
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That said, the jury is still the wild card.

"White teenager Kyle Rittenhouse faces homicide charges after killing two people and injuring a third during unrest tied to the shooting of a Black man in Kenosha, Wisconsin, last summer. Meanwhile, three white men in Georgia are facing murder charges in connection with the shooting of Ahmaud Arbery, a Black man whose family says he was out for a jog."

I love how they just kind of gloss over that none of the people who Kyle shot were black. Probably hoping that since the rest of the article sounds like they're complaining about white juries in cases where black men have been killed, that people will make the assumption that's true of Kyle's case.

 

[Meat Target]

I think the mainstream media is seething hard with this trial. I did a search of recaps and legal analysis of the case and it all stops on the either on the opening day of legal arguments or the second day. That is, we have a full court legal analysis and/or summary on Tuesday and Wednesday but not a lot thereafter.

No more day to day legal breakdowns from the lawyers the MSM has.

No summaries.

At most you get a short clip about why some juror was excused and they immediately pivot to the Arbury case.

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See, people are accusing me of freebasing hopium, but there isn't the smug certainty from the media, Twitter, or Reddit that we got during the Chauvin trial. I'm seeing headlines without comment, obvious cherry-picking, or grudging predictions of Kyle walking.

 

[JohnDoe]

Oh yeah the white juries will judge the white teenager who shot white felons in self defense

How racist

White you say?

We got ourselves a based beaner, boys! Break out the sombreros!

 

[Titos]

It appears the press are pre-emptively coping.
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That said, the jury is still the wild card.

Ok fine, only blacks get to sit on juries for crimes involving blacks, and if I'm ever sent to court I demand my jury is only right wing white dudes. After all, those would be my "peers" would they not?

 

[Still Anonymous For This]

It appears the press are pre-emptively coping.
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That said, the jury is still the wild card.

The press: Stereotyping minorities is racist and we will cancel you if you do it.
Also the press: Niggers only think one way.

 

[JohnDoe]

Ok fine, only blacks get to sit on juries for crimes involving blacks, and if I'm ever sent to court I demand my jury is only right wing white dudes. After all, those would be my "peers" would they not?

I demand an entire jury of based furry fascists to judge any future crimes I may commit.

 

[Cilleystring]

I get that some people are trolls and stirring the pot, which is funny, this is KF after all.

But to those zealots who are dead serious about rittenhouse being guilty, remember this. The rosenbaums, huebers, and grosskreutzs of the world will feel emboldened if rittenhouse is found guilty. As will their enablers who encourage it from the sidelines. They'll come to your neighborhood eventually. Are you gonna feel the same when they loot your house, burn down your community, and fuck your kids?

I'd somewhat respect you if you did, at least you'd be consistent, even if it's complete lunacy. But I highly doubt that's what would happen. You'd say it's unfair what these people are doing to you and you'd demand justice. All while doing whatever mental gymnastics to convince yourself that it's different this time around bc you're the one on the receiving end. I guaran-fuckin-tee it.

This case isn't about rittenhouse as a person. As others said nobody has a connection to him. Nobody knows or cares about him personally. This is about the right to protect yourself from criminals who take advantage of our wreckless identity politics landscape in order to justify themselves committing domestic terrorism against complete strangers. If you cannot grasp that, or just don't care, then you better invest in some butt plugs bc the rosembaums of the world will be gettin hard and comin in hot.

 

[Glenallen Mixon]

This case has been wild. It's like the defense is trying to throw one way and the prosecution is trying to throw the other.

Rittenhouse is still gonna get hit with every charge though.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

From the commentary I've heard, Grosskreutz is suing the city in an attempt to say the police are at fault for creating a dangerous situation that led to him getting disarmed. If he's going to be a witness, he might be biased in favor of the defense. If Gaige wants that payout, he has to say the police didn't do their job, that the night was violent, and that he was in a dangerous situation because the police were not there to stop the violent rioters. That'll play in to Kyle being there to protect private property and that Kyle was in danger because the people there were violent crazy people.

That whole argument seems to revolve around 'we wuz peaceful protesters who dindu nuffin and the police let these evil right wing militias mow us down'. It should be a ridiculous argument but civil court has a much lower burden of proof than criminal court and people get paid all the time for dumb shit so I have the feeling he'll still get some kind of settlement.

 

[theshitposter]

I demand an entire jury of based furry fascists to judge any future crimes I may commit.

jury of your peers?

 

[Meat Target]

omg that is not how stare decisis works are you fucking high

Wisconsin state court decisions are precedent in Wisconsin, they don't magically become precedent in the rest of the country. plus the extremely bizarre fact pattern makes this case pretty much irrelevant for self-defense in general.

this case will be appealed if he loses anyway

Juries in other jurisdictions will subconsciously compare future self-defense shootings to this. It is textbook.

If Kyle loses, it will set the cultural consensus of "if the mob decides you die, then you must die". It will codify mob rule and anarcho-tyranny into law.

 

[That_Guy]

Defense should make a comparison something like this: a 17-year-old is housesitting for someone else. There's a whiskey bottle on top of the pantry. An intruder breaks in and attacks him.

The teenager grabs the whiskey bottle, smashes it, and stabs the attacker with it, killing him.

Technically, the teen was a minor in possession of alcohol, but used said object to avoid being killed or severely injured. Given the circumstances, the MIP is not a big deal.

I once heard that there is some legal term for this, but it escapes me.

Defense of necessity, I think? I have a vague (very) recollection of an example of this where a guy (felony conviction, So no guns for him.) was working in a shop, Got robbed and ended up justifiably ventilating the would-be robber with the shotgun the owner kept stashed under the counter. Got a felon-in-possession charge thrown at him anyways for using it. Ended up roughly as "Yes, He was but only when he needed to and once not he put it right back down, So get bent." Pretty sure it wasn't phrased quite like that.

 

[AnOminous]

I once heard that there is some legal term for this, but it escapes me.

Doctrine of necessity. Not really relevant here as he didn't need to possess a weapon illegally (although it is questionable at best that it was even illegal at all). Self-defense still applies, though, and the issue of whether the weapon was legal is entirely separate. I don't think it should even have been in the same case because it's prejudicial.