8 People Dead and others hospitalized at Travis Scotts Astroworld festival

The first video is confusing me. They say the incident happened after 9PM, but that first video starts with a bunch of spergs running around like idiots in the day time. And a couple of security dudes body checking randos. So what exactly was that? It seems as if this event was chaotic from the start and that there was plenty of time to deal with this before it got bad later on.
 
The way they just keep going with their phones out, while people are screaming, demonstrates the quality of their internal monologue. I find it hard to think of them as human.
in this world, you find that their are two types of beings. Humans, people who can act independently and are dynamic. Robots are the other type, they cant think independently are only bother to do what they are programmed to do.
 
Like Gen Z is into the most niggerly of nigger music I don’t understand this, it doesn’t even have a good beat.
Its just hihats, bassdrum, and autotune. There has to be no way to make rap music sound any dumber, which is a remarkable achievement.

my father once told me "I don't hate black people, I hate niggers."

it rings true to me to this day.
The only thing worse than a nigger, is a wigger (of any race).
 
Ah. It seemed weird that they just kept going and I was wondering if they were afraid of causing a riot or mass panic. I guess that's the reason.

It still must have sucked for those ambulance personnel.

The whole set up looked like a perfect recipe for a crush event - it's the same sort of set up at Hajj where crush events are common place. Everyone is crammed onto flat ground with no lanes, organized seating, designated travel paths, or any sort of control.
Doesn’t explain why he wouldn’t tell people to let the ambulance through and stop until people did. Don’t need to tell them anything to panic them, but shouldn’t have kept going if you have people in trouble in the crowd.
 
There is genuinely good rap out there, I wouldn't write off the whole genre.





That said, the best rap came out in the 90s and 2000s. The past decade or so has been pretty dire.
Yeah, 90s and 00s, and then almost nothing but trash since. That's true about most things though: nothing good is or can be made anymore. We now live in tardo garbage world, as far as the arts go.

It looks like they were mimicking old-timey carnival aesthetics, its just when you replace the creepy white head with a black one it goes from playful to beyond lovecraftian horrific.
 
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So you're telling me there were predominantly black people on the concert? Taking a variety of drugs including fentanyl? Who were crushed, squeezed, perhaps even knelt on, and couldn't breathe because of it?
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Nothing quite funnier than a bunch of black people and wiggers killing each other as they try to yell "I CANT BREATHE!" and realize that when you truly cant breath, you cant shout it out.
 
I know a lot of people are blaming the fucking lunatics crashing through the security gate. And it is 100000 percent their fault. But I can't help but be disgusted at the absolute failure the venue/production/artist had at managing what was assumed to be a rowdy crowd. They should have had protocols that went into effect immediately the moment that fence was busted down. They just carried on the concert as if people weren't dying in the crowds. Even the most death metal intense concerts have fucking systems in place when things start to get out of control. Not that I had any expectations of Travis. But I personally think that he, or at least the team managing the event, need to be sued. Those people that went there had an reasonable expectation of safety while attending that was COMPLETELY failed by the teams/artist hosting the event.
 
There is something seriously wrong with someone that sings 'dead, dead', while directly looking at an apparently lifeless teenage boy being carried out of the crowd.

As far as I can see so far, there aren't any of his songs that start or end in that way, so the excuse 'it's part of his act' doesn't ring true, please correct me if I am incorrect.
 
It's a good idea to stay away from crowds of people doing drugs. If you can't drug test each individual in the crowd, avail yourself of whatever indicator for drug use you find appropriate.


It's "falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic." The dictum doesn't extend to shouting fire if there really is a fire, or trying to control a crowd when it's already panicking. The speech has to be false and it has to result in a panic. And this probably isn't valid case law these days, if it ever was; consult a lawyer before alerting theater-goers to nonexistent conflagrations.
The fire in a theater thing was never actually binding law and also the case the line comes from had nothing to do with false statements or fires or theaters. The case was US vs Schenck and had to do with a socialist wanting to distribute pamphlets denouncing the draft during WW1. The fiery theater thing was a justice trying to say the first amendment wasn't absolute and the pamphlet posed a danger to a nation at war.

It was overturned in a later case where the court said even speech advocating violence was protected unless the speech "is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action".
 
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