Incel and Lonely Men Debate thread - Defend men giving up or tell them otherwise

Shamash said:
Wow. That's a super degenerate attitude my dude.

You don't become a monk or nun in 2021 without a genuine calling.
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My soul is fine.

I don't need to constantly explain it on a sperg forum.

Perhaps you should rethink your life.
 
Kujo Jotaro said:
Do you talk to other men? Theres a difference between finding a super model attractive, and thinking you have a chance with her/deserve a woman of her caliber. No man I've had a personal relationship has ever told me they have a chance with a super model, even the handsomest guys I've known have never been cocky enough to seriously insinuate they could bed a 10/10.

The reality is women are way too fucking picky in the age of social media, they have inflated egos from quick easy social approval, and random coomers "sliding into their dm's' thinking sending them dick pics or asking "u wanna fuk?" will actually get them pussy instead of just feeding into a girls narcissism. Women play coy and act like they hat getting this kind of attention, but at their core they love it even if they have no interest in the man who's coming onto them. It tells them they're wanted, that men find them attractive, and that just serves to inflate their self perceptions and what they think they deserve in a man.
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Yes. I'm not saying all me prescribe to getting the best of the litter so to speak, but there are some men who price themselves beyond normal rational and end up alone even outside the women not fit for dating.

In regards to your analysis I don't disagree. The dating dynamics are pretty skewed these days and it's primarily a female fantasy (and ego) issue. However, I have seen some men with quality women drop them merely because of one issue or another when they had a near marriable or settling-for girl or just flat out pushing for some insane relationship requirement that most won't agree too. It just depends on the situation.
 
Mewtwo_Rain said:
Yes. I'm not saying all me prescribe to getting the best of the litter so to speak, but there are some men who price themselves beyond normal rational and end up alone even outside the women not fit for dating.

In regards to your analysis I don't disagree. The dating dynamics are pretty skewed these days and it's primarily a female fantasy (and ego) issue. However, I have seen some men with quality women drop them merely because of one issue or another when they had a near marriable or settling-for girl or just flat out pushing for some insane relationship requirement that most won't agree too. It just depends on the situation.
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Yes there are delusional men(I've known a few myself), but they've all been so laughably delusional that they're almost not worth mentioning.

I'm talking the types of guys that the term incel was originally meant to describe. The types of guys who I would never associate with outside of school or work. They all lied constantly, lies they themselves didn't believe, but they went ahead and told them anyways. All of them were either straight up autistic, or short as fuck. At no point did anyone take them seriously, and they're such an after thought that they shouldn't be lumped in with most other men.
 
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Kujo Jotaro said:
Yes there are delusional men(I've known a few myself), but they've all been so laughably delusional that they're almost not worth mentioning.

I'm talking the types of guys that the term incel was originally meant to describe. The types of guys who I would never associate with outside of school or work. They all lied constantly, lies they themselves didn't believe, but they went ahead and told them anyways. All of them were either straight up autistic, or short as fuck. At no point did anyone take them seriously, and they're such an after thought that they shouldn't be lumped in with most other men.
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I've been weirdly fascinated by the whole rise of the idea of incels since I spent most of the 2010s not in America, then I came back to an utter shitshow with the word being dropped in regular conversation. Always by women, of course.

At the same time, it just never made sense to mock this group as I always think they need help. A ton of incels are coomers that can't even focus on school/career stuff, much less work on a job. If they're so busy raising the "self-esteem" or femcels/troons/obese women/etc., then surely you'd think that they'd be consistent in their liberal mindset and try to help incels out, yes?
 
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Never Scored said:
When I was younger, circa 2003/2004, I didn't have a lot of self-esteem and I legit started turning it around by fucking a couple of easy fat girls I wasn't attracted to just to get it out of my system and it helped a lot getting over a mental block. Don't know if that would work for everyone, but it worked for me.
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Sound advice...... Practice on the ugly ones. Just don't tell your friends.
 
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This thread slowly morphed into a self help for kiwifarmers who can't get laid or need someone to confirm their worldview and it's kinda fascinating. Some of you are lucky the TMI and autism stickers don't apply here to remind you to calm down tho, remember not to go full retard in threads lest someone makes a thread on you.
 
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Sweetpeaa said:
I see people mentioning dating sites on here. The fact is, and this is a sad fact most people having to use those sites and apps are them selves quite pathetic or just looking for sex. This is where the ''sad fact'' comes into place and I'm going to say it here: most people with normal social skills and good looks start relationships in the real world. Pretty women get asked for their numbers in public places and men with good looks and regular self esteem are more than capable of asking a woman out in the real world. Many people date co-workers or their classmates.

As a rule, most people who have to go on the internet to find someone are just a little bit weird. For these incels to even fail in the online dating world is really, really sad.
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Over half of relationships started from online dating apps. Somehow half the population is now a “little bit weird”. This is new cope I never thought I’d see.
 
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Johan Hulth said:
Pic related says it's the other way round. Also look at the deathfat ladies who can still find some dick. Or Momokun pulling $100k a year on Onlyfans for being fat and unwashed. Why is there BBW porn? Why is body positivity 99% female? I don't doubt some incels have unrealistic expectations, but many do talk about "looks matching". Maybe the reason men have to be competent flirts is to overcome pic related.

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Funnily enough that pic shows that both men and women pine for others out of their league.
 
I want to say that being an incel is as bad as being autistic but then i realized that even CWC gets punani.
Being an incel is actually worse than having assburgers,hell its even worse than trooning out because nobody will pat you in the back for whining about how hard life is.

I can only hope that all permavirgins in Kiwi Farms can get a good facial surgery one day or meet a girl with ugly men fetish.This is not even a joke or a mockery,i know how bad it can gets
 
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Shchors said:
I want to say that being an incel is as bad as being autistic but then i realized that even CWC gets punani.
Being an incel is actually worse than having assburgers,hell its even worse than trooning out because nobody will pat you in the back for whining about how hard life is.

I can only hope that all permavirgins in Kiwi Farms can get a good facial surgery one day or meet a girl with ugly men fetish.This is not even a joke or a mockery,i know how bad it can gets
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Almost as if it's a mindset, and they get what they deserve.
 
atleast3letterslong said:
How do I improve my incredibly low self-esteem?
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You don't fix it, you just need to stop caring. Stop having an opinion on what you are and focus on evaluating your actions.

Quick example: instead of saying "I'm a fat disgusting blob" say "I'm not eating right/working out and need to fix that"

Judging yourself is inherently unhealthy and can only lead to depression or narcissism. Only focus on judging your actions. That's what worked for me.

Burned CDs said:
The less i cared about women, the luckier i was with them.
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It's incredible how true this is. Struggled with dating most my life. First gf I ever had I assumed was off limits and acted completely platonic towards her (at first at least). She ended up pursuing me. Acting indifferent (but not disinterested) is like a cheat code for women.
 
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