Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r]

I know he isn't, but he sounds like someone who's trolling trans people by being as insufferable of a trannie as possible.

Literally Oliver.

 

[Icterus]

Literally Oliver.

Wow! That's one very talented and versatile actress! How are they able to switch into a male presenting voice on the fly, mid conversation, like that? Thoroughly in awe.

 

[Shotgun Badger]

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AS A TRANS WOMAN AND A LESBIAN

The passive aggressiveness and moralizing is unbelievable. Would be curious to know what his standards are for problematic publications/people to make amends.

 

[Felis Meanis]

Speaking on the topic of trannies, I'm reminded of one of my favourites of the "Daily Gondor"

"Pictured: Gorgola Ugluk (left) and Galardiel". In case you couldn't tell them apart.

I suppose that ms. Ugluk is biologically female, though.

 

[Rekkington]

the proper philosophers letter is so reasonable- where the fuck does Tube get off calling himself one, when he fundamentally oppposes the possibility of debate over this certain sacred cow?

they looove “debating our right to exist” bitch no, you can’t be debated out of existence, the same way that if someone lols at me for saying i’m a 58 year old jamaican man, contrary to obvious appearance, i don’t disappear in a puff of smoke.

it goes against every academic and philosophical impulse to pretend like this- that no debate is reasonable- and Tube knows that but he’s having too much fun finally be able to live his narc dreams as Che Jesus Superman which he clearly seethed about when he was just a fat rich white upper class fuck.

the fact they are seething over the very existence of differences of opinion- be it trying to grind netflix to a halt, or protest the BBC for an interview in one long think piece- it’s like chill out.
what do they think it’s like to be black or jewish or a woman (lol) and that there’s been tons of hate websites and well known, well playfoemed hate figures saying awful shit against us, pretty much non stop for ever.
What we do is just get on with it, let the morons moron, try to make positive moves amongst ourselves working for good things rather than against exceptional things, and do not grace them the oxygen of publicity, because at the end of the day, people are free to have their own dumb fuck opinions and it literally doesn’t effect us.
try to find an actual incidence of terf rhetoric having a consequence.
the difference is we are dealing with autistic rage combined with narcissistic injury here.
they will not stand for any unbelievers, they need to hear you say you love big brother.

I'm fairly certain the whole "our right to exist" theme was stolen directly from Jews since they've been saying that to anyone who ever criticizes Israel, from the very beginning. I think this is likely because trannies are not known for their creativity and you correctly pointed out how it doesn't make much sense in this context.

 

[Photo of an orange]

This is such a boring thread. I tried to make it interesting, but reading all this is like asphyxiating yourself in a bowl of oatmeal. I blame Olly, and also yes: I am mad at this particular part of the internet.

 

[fax machine]

asphyxiating yourself in a bowl of oatmeal

mmmm, tasty

 

[AfghanBlue]

he’s bleeting on twitter about the same old, at the minute.
considering he’s not actually got that many less subscribers than contrapponts, he has waaaaay less engagement like a fraction of the amount.
i wonder if this means loads of his youtube subs are bots or bought or whatever.

 

[narcissistic injury]

he’s bleeting on twitter about the same old, at the minute.
considering he’s not actually got that many less subscribers than contrapponts, he has waaaaay less engagement like a fraction of the amount.
i wonder if this means loads of his youtube subs are bots or bought or whatever.

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Oh shit LOL

Someone plz share

 

[PennyAni]

Oh totally.

I was just being silly saying he was self aware once upon a time. I called up that scene to rewatch because I remember how cringe and manipulative it was. Dramatic camera pan and all. Your whole post was spot on. I just thought that passage was funny in hindsight, given that he is trying to literally skinwalk women now. Fleshy English robot indeed.

Actually I looked up that scene more specifically because I remember him confessing that he had no real friends. I think that part is true. I’m sure most people who are around him for any length of time cobble on to what and who he is and head for the hills. See Contra (of all people) for Exhibit A. However “Abs” or “Abigail” probably has a cadre of troon “friends” now - but only united in their troondom. See Muslim hijab wearing degenerate “Alice” for Exhibit B. I’m sure the tranny community accepts all troons unless they go Jessica Yaniv-level insane, or deviate too far from TRA group think. I suspect this influenced Oliver’s decision to transition - presto he has an instant friend circle of trannies. And not only that he will be “the most recognizable” among them, so he’s Cinderella at the tranny ball.


Here’s the latest Lulu compilation. (Trigger warning - tons of tongue protrusions.)

OMG this has gotta be the worst one yet. Who can watch these "fan" edits and not think that Olly is completely batshit insane? The TONGUE bullshit, the huge flabby white arms flailing everywhere, the painfully unfunny humor, the even more painful and fake little gestures- the dancing, the winks and thumbs ups and weird facial contortions....I sincerely don't get it at this point why or how so many people thirst after this person. I'm just glad I wasnt eating while forcing myself to watch this.

I'm also sort of trying to psychoanalyze myself to try and figure out why he disgusts and annoys me to the point of, like, almost really fury? Definitely pisses me off.

And I see yet another example of his whole "gotta skip this next nothing background song because it's sad". WTF? Like....I seriously want to punch something. Sorry if anyone recognizes this and likes it but he "music", as always, is also total, total elevator music crap.

 

[scathefire]

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I love how he's so transparently thrown his supposed bisexuality out the window the second it doesn't benefit him anymore. Does he expect people not to notice? His video about being ~queer~ is still up.

This is such a boring thread. I tried to make it interesting, but reading all this is like asphyxiating yourself in a bowl of oatmeal. I blame Olly, and also yes: I am mad at this particular part of the internet.

Dear lord, how could anything ever be entertaining were it not for your mere presence?

 

[Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r]

I love how he's so transparently thrown his supposed bisexuality out the window the second it doesn't benefit him anymore. Does he expect people not to notice? His video about being ~queer~ is still up.

Have you noticed how Contra did just the same thing? As regular ol' white guys, they'll claim to be bisexual for easy diversity points. Once they've trooned, they're suddenly "lesbians". Their status as transwomen is more than enough diversity points, pretending to be lesbian on top of that is even more, and they don't even have to fake their attraction to women.

This bisexual man to "lesbian" pattern is part of the reason why I don't believe GAMPs-to-AGPs are actually bisexual. They're straight men with a fetish who can stop pretending to be bi once they've trooned because being trans is enough of a woke community boost in itself. As a bonus, they can even retcon their fake bisexuality as comphet, further proof they were true and honest women struggling with identity all along.

 

[PennyAni]

Wow! That's one very talented and versatile actress! How are they able to switch into a male presenting voice on the fly, mid conversation, like that? Thoroughly in awe.

It's called "abilities" and "talent". Lean into it if you've got it.

I'm dying over the supposed replies he's sending to ALL THE MEDIA who hound him for interviews lately, given that he's so very famous and exceptional. Transwoman and lesbian(!!!) OMFG. You mean as a straight dude, you absolute asshat?

 

[fax machine]

Have you noticed how Contra did just the same thing? As regular ol' white guys, they'll claim to be bisexual for easy diversity points. Once they've trooned, they're suddenly "lesbians". Their status as transwomen is more than enough diversity points, pretending to be lesbian on top of that is even more, and they don't even have to fake their attraction to women.

This bisexual man to "lesbian" pattern is part of the reason why I don't believe GAMPs-to-AGPs are actually bisexual. They're straight men with a fetish who can stop pretending to be bi once they've trooned because being trans is enough of a woke community boost in itself. As a bonus, they can even retcon their fake bisexuality as comphet, further proof they were true and honest women struggling with identity all along.

Imo GAMPs are about as bisexual as the erastai of ancient Greece: essentially capable of attraction to males under certain circumstances, but very sensitive about articulating the boundaries. He must be a delicate youth, or a male with a feminine soul, or whatever helps a man sleep easy at night, strong in his sense of self and desire. On the flesh and blood level that’s still a male having sex with a male. Definitionally not heterosexual.

That GAMPs are attracted only to feminine males and females makes them no less bisexual than women who are attracted only to lumberjacks and butches. We wouldn’t pathologize that woman’s attraction to butches as a fetish, so I see no reason to do that to a GAMP. They’re both bisexual with preferences. Nothing wrong with that.

I don’t think pornography, powerful as it is, has the power to plant seeds that aren’t there. It can feed desires that a different environment would have left asleep — and some desires (like pederasty) should absolutely stay buried in the Mariana Trench of the consciousness — but no one is ever going to convince me that a Kinsey 0 man can be converted to GAMP through traps. Kinsey 1, 2? Sure. And there may be more of those than typically believed. There’s plenty of historical precedent to suggest that male bisexuality is more common, biologically speaking, than it’s become in practice under hostile cultural conditions. (See, at the very least, Greece, Rome, Japan, and China for strong traditions of homosexual affairs in concert with heterosexual marriages to pass on blood and property.) The only truly new thing about the GAMP phenomenon is the pipeline to AGP and later transition to social womanhood. That’s the product of a culture where individual expression is king, and pressure to reproduce is at an all time low — not a priority structure societies before us could afford.

Tangent aside, Olly’s autophilia is no doubt stronger than any attraction he feels to other people.

 

[Tombigbee]

We laugh now but cut to 2035 when all our kids are taught about “Abigail Thorn” the way we were about Marie Curie and Sally Ride. Actually I don’t know why I’m joking about that, that literally is pretty much already happening.

 

[Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r]

Imo GAMPs are about as bisexual as the erastai of ancient Greece: essentially capable of attraction to males under certain circumstances, but very sensitive about articulating the boundaries. He must be a delicate youth, or a male with a feminine soul, or whatever helps a man sleep easy at night, strong in his sense of self and desire. On the flesh and blood level that’s still a male having sex with a male. Definitionally not heterosexual.

That GAMPs are attracted only to feminine males and females makes them no less bisexual than women who are attracted only to lumberjacks and butches. We wouldn’t pathologize that woman’s attraction to butches as a fetish, so I see no reason to do that to a GAMP. They’re both bisexual with preferences. Nothing wrong with that.

I don’t think pornography, powerful as it is, has the power to plant seeds that aren’t there. It can feed desires that a different environment would have left asleep — and some desires (like pederasty) should absolutely stay buried in the Mariana Trench of the consciousness — but no one is ever going to convince me that a Kinsey 0 man can be converted to GAMP through traps. Kinsey 1, 2? Sure. And there may be more of those than typically believed. There’s plenty of historical precedent to suggest that male bisexuality is more common, biologically speaking, than it’s become in practice under hostile cultural conditions. (See, at the very least, Greece, Rome, Japan, and China for strong traditions of homosexual affairs in concert with heterosexual marriages to pass on blood and property.) The only truly new thing about the GAMP phenomenon is the pipeline to AGP and later transition to social womanhood. That’s the product of a culture where individual expression is king, and pressure to reproduce is at an all time low — not a priority structure societies before us could afford.

Tangent aside, Olly’s autophilia is no doubt stronger than any attraction he feels to other people.

Maybe there's an argument to be made that some GAMPs are bisexual, and others only gravitate towards feminine men and transwomen out of a covetous obsession. That said, it gets to a point where the subcategories and finer details are a little bit autistic.
I just can't see either Oliver or Nick being genuinely into men. Nick has had sex with men because it makes him feel womanly rather than attraction to the men, as per his admission. It's not unusual AGP behaviour and I can believe it. Oliver is just a soulless grifter mirroring other people. I never believed he felt love for Contra, just an obsession, though I guess we'll never know.

We laugh now but cut to 2035 when all our kids are taught about “Abigail Thorn” the way we were about Marie Curie and Sally Ride. Actually I don’t know why I’m joking about that, that literally is pretty much already happening.

The painting's expression speaks for all of us watching this, I think.

 

[fax machine]

Maybe there's an argument to be made that some GAMPs are bisexual, and others only gravitate towards feminine men and transwomen out of a covetous obsession. That said, it gets to a point where the subcategories and finer details are a little bit autistic.
I just can't see either Oliver or Nick being genuinely into men. Nick has had sex with men because it makes him feel womanly rather than attraction to the men, as per his admission. It's not unusual AGP behaviour and I can believe it. Oliver is just a soulless grifter mirroring other people. I never believed he felt love for Contra, just an obsession, though I guess we'll never know.

I guess Blanchardian pseudobisexuality is somewhat compatible with "essential" heterosexuality if the man is merely a prop in the fantasy of self as woman. But if a trans woman spends a year pursuing a specific trans woman and another two years sulking about her loss, that's too much feeling to be pseudo-whatever. AGP does not preclude genuine bisexuality. Contra behaves like a bisexual who likes feminine people.

Hard to say for Olly, as he seems ghoulishly self-attracted.

At the heart of things, GAMP just doesn't strike me as "covetous obsession" (rather than “genuine attraction”) any more than other fairly common expressions of male sexuality. What is it when a man exclusively chases blondes? models? women half his age? What is it when he flies to Korea or Thailand to fish for lovers who barely speak his language? Maybe it's an acquisitive desire in support of his self-image, but it's also an attraction to someone other than the self. A special desire for feminine men is similar, I think.

While GAMPs are bisexual, not all GAMPs are AGP, and not all AGPs are GAMP.

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Someone plz share

lol did you upset him? or is he using blocklists to shut out users who follow ~TERFs?

Tweets are the same as ever:

Spoiler: long

Usual Trans Twitter bullshit conflating beauty, femininity, and femaleness followed by PT barging in like the Kool-Aid man to sermonize about sEgReGaTeD hEaLtHcArE. Mostly an excuse to rationalize his cisnormative efforts to pass.

Idk, I want power over my own life more than I want “good representation.” Even if my doctor rose above cisnormativity and was 100% a trans ally he’d still have to send me to a segregated clinic with a 30 year waiting list to get the same medicine he gives cis people
If challenging cisnormativity through presentation helps achieve trans power then yeah for sure! But my focus is on the power
Idk, I guess I would say that though cause my job is all about appearances; it’s in my interests to downplay it

Remember when the job was about ideas? No you don't because it was never.

 

[narcissistic injury]

We laugh now but cut to 2035 when all our kids are taught about “Abigail Thorn” the way we were about Marie Curie and Sally Ride. Actually I don’t know why I’m joking about that, that literally is pretty much already happening.

Brutal….

 

[Rose_of_Troon]

This bisexual man to "lesbian" pattern is part of the reason why I don't believe GAMPs-to-AGPs are actually bisexual. They're straight men with a fetish who can stop pretending to be bi once they've trooned because being trans is enough of a woke community boost in itself.

Did you just say GAMPs are straight? So trans women are women then? Wow we are making progress with the TERFs. Love that realization for you.

 

[behindyourightnow]

I am gonna a make a prediction here :
I am going to predict that Olly's next "Kill James Bond" podcast will be about how the new James Bond novel are getting "woke" and also will also have Olly demanding that Sherwood's new triology has 007 banging a trans woman on it for "representation".

That's my prediction.

A crazed HSTS would actually make a great evil Bond girl. That would not be "positive" enough though, and would never happen because we can no longer have fun things.

I know he isn't, but he sounds like someone who's trolling trans people by being as insufferable of a trannie as possible.

"I won't give information or a quote to your paper because you have not yet done an illustrated front-page spread about the tastiness of my own personal girldick"

two weeks later

"WHY DOES THIS ARTICLE NOT REPRESENT THE VOICES OF TRANS PEOPLE?!"