9/16/2021 - Court case gets a continuance

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I want to know why @Information Highwayman disagreed with @DownSouthBoi there. The latter's comment seems spot-on to me. Neither Bob nor Barb ever really seems to have tried to shake Chris's narcissistic power-fantasies or longing for imaginary best buddies. Bob going 'phooey' about the idea of the Love Quest when Chris was already into his 20s doesn't really count.

Neither of them seemed remotely bothered about shaking his delusions. Chris brings out more and more Sonichu crap in front of them and they shake their heads in weary tolerance and say 'that's nice, dear'. That's all.

In fact, it's perhaps a charge that can be laid at all of the adults who've tried to help him throughout his life - MLW, Rocky, his various psychiatrists - none of them seems to have really just given Chris some tough love when he needed it and explained it to him, politely but bluntly, that he doesn't have superhuman powers and that his imaginary electric hedgehog bum-chums are exactly that. Imaginary. And then kept at it until he accepted it. Too late now.
There were times where Bob was trying to do the "tough love" thing and Chris, in his own words, "worked hard to ignore him" to the point where Bob stuck his middle finger at Chris and said "Fuck you", which made Chris upset. Chris has stated at times that his parents would get on him, and he'd get stressed out trying to ignore them or just "get through the Screaming and Yelling".

We only know about those because Chris relayed the conversation to trolls at the time it happened in email. We also saw that once Bob figured out Chris was maxing out high interest credit cards, he took over Chris's account and issued him gift cards. Chris didn't like that either, because again, he saw it as an insult.

There's also the famous call with Kacey, (Kacey Call 15) where Barb comes in and tells Chris he needs to start helping clean the house, taking stuff to Goodwill, etc...

Barbara:I need you to start looking around and doing what you can do because there's a lot you could do. You are healthy and young. And you get so involved with these other things that you've been involved in. [Chris: "Yeah but-"] I've let you ride. I've let you ride. And now it's time that I'm going to crack down on you, and I'm going to demand that you help me everyday whether I ask you to, or not. I'm expecting you to help improve the indoors of the house and the at-

Chris: I don't know what er whya-why d-you want me to do!

Barbara: ANYTHING.

Chris: I don't even, I can't even ah-

Barbara: Come here and look. What is it that you can clean up, straighten up, in, in your room? There's a lot you could do.

Chris: OK well, when can we concentrate outside my room? Like uhyah, I know we can do the kitchen and the uh, the living room. But you know that's gonna be [unintelligible] that would require your direction on that, [unintelligible] thing.

Barbara: Downstairs right now there's vacuuming that needs to be done, there's carpet that needs to be cleaned and there are things to be...[Chris sighs] And there are looooot of things that gotta go upstairs, or go to Goodwill. [Chris sighs again]

Chris: Yeah most of 'em, yeah um yeah an-, most of 'em of, all mine [?] do have to go upstairs.

Barbara: And I bought two chests, there's one in the kitchen, there's one in that closet.

Chris: Yeah but-

Barbara: And those have tools-

Chris: Yeah but I mean where do you expect me to put, where do you expect me to put them in here, in my room?

Barbara: I didn't say put them in your room. There's a chest in that closet, there's a chest at the end of the kitchen. What- all you do is stack up stuff in the kitchen like you do in here and...We gotta, yeah neatly put things in the kitchen. But it takes two. And I have to feel like doing it. And I, I don't feel like-

Chris: B-b-buh-yut mum it's just a closet, I mean you put in the-er-whu- I already had a bunch of my stuff in there. I mean where am I gonna put that stuff downstairs? I don't know where else to put it. Especially that love doll.

Barbara: You can stick that in the utility room.

Chris: [sigh] Then it would, it- it gets hot, it gets hot in there and then it'll just... [sound of Chris hitting something]

Barbara: Right, we need...we need to clean the tiles of the shower.

Chris: Yeah.

Barbara: In the bathroom.

Chris: Yeah we've got a lot to do, I know but-

Barbara: And re-grouting, putting, the uh, removing the grout between the uh, tiles, and then re-grouting.

In a nutshell, the idea that "Barb was going to kill herself if anyone touched the hoard" was something Chris fabricated, knowing that excuse would make people stop telling him to clean up the house.

Chris's parents did try and did try well into their golden years, but again, it always comes back to Chris being lazy or throwing tantrum because his parents wanted him to do work around the house.
 
I want to know why @Information Highwayman disagreed with @DownSouthBoi there. The latter's comment seems spot-on to me. Neither Bob nor Barb ever really seems to have tried to shake Chris's narcissistic power-fantasies or longing for imaginary best buddies. Bob going 'phooey' about the idea of the Love Quest when Chris was already into his 20s doesn't really count.

Neither of them seemed remotely bothered about shaking his delusions. Chris brings out more and more Sonichu crap in front of them and they shake their heads in weary tolerance and say 'that's nice, dear'. That's all.

In fact, it's perhaps a charge that can be laid at all of the adults who've tried to help him throughout his life - MLW, Rocky, his various psychiatrists - none of them seems to have really just given Chris some tough love when he needed it and explained it to him, politely but bluntly, that he doesn't have superhuman powers and that his imaginary electric hedgehog bum-chums are exactly that. Imaginary. And then kept at it until he accepted it. Too late now.
As @Tennis-Ball-Tony already touched on, Borb did try to keep Chris' antics under control, usually resulting in Bob having to either blow up at him to try and finally get his point across, Barb talking down and even berating him, and Chris brushing it off anyway (I'M WORKIN' ON IT) or just ignoring them altogether.
In the end, everyone's patience gives up at some point and they both just let him do his own thing. Legitimate child or autistic manchild, there's no point beating your head against a wall forever.
 
Barb nor Bob were properly equipped to raise a child with severe autism. Even when Greene County seeked to have Chris sent to a "special school", it was pretty telling when they interpreted the idea to mean a nut-house.
Nobody's really convinced me that wouldn't have been the case. Chris really is borderline retarded in many ways and I don't believe the state was going to put in the resources required to make Chris adequately functional. People with autism like his still pretty much end up depending on family for their entire lives anyhow. He would've been put in glorified daycare.
 
My own mother has that overdramatic, emotional manipulative attitude. The best thing to do is reduce contact to a bare minimum and let Momma know to let you be a fucking adult. Chris never got to that point.
Like Cole did.

Nobody's really convinced me that wouldn't have been the case. Chris really is borderline exceptional in many ways and I don't believe the state was going to put in the resources required to make Chris adequately functional. People with autism like his still pretty much end up depending on family for their entire lives anyhow. He would've been put in glorified daycare.
And that would have been better than the way things are now.
 
And that would have been better than the way things are now.
Definitely do not disagree with that at all. But at the same time I'm trying to think of it from Chris's parents' perspective where they might've had horrifying impressions of what kind of care Chris would be put into if he was deemed as that severely autistic. The best outcome for Chris probably would've been being under the care of parents who were attentive enough to limit his intake and exposure of media. I fault his parents for a lot but I don't think being reluctant of him being institutionalized necessarily makes them in the wrong, they just probably could not fathom what a monster he would become when you combine the autism with unchecked access to the internet. There are a lot of people who probably should not be socializing on the internet but Chris is at the top of the list, absolutely nothing good (for him) came out of him interacting and exposing himself online and unlike even many tards he never truly learns from any of his mistakes.
 
The prosecution's ass is getting chewed out by the judge so much, it's almost like they paid for it at a brothel.
Well, fortunately, there's no real parallel between Rittenhouse and Chris. The US government and activist class is uninterested in using Chris as a political pawn since he makes so many groups look terrible. Even incest perpetrators are somehow looking 10 times worse now that Chris has raped his own mother. They all collectively made this face when they learned Chris was arrested.

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