Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

[Creep3r]

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This truly is a honking clown world.

 

[TheClappening]

Jury selection and Jury instructions are the key parts of the trial, unless one party fails fantastically at trial.

I mean, we had two weeks of the prosecution completely and utterly fucking everything up

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

Hold up here. Something is being forgotten here. The character of Rosenbaum, Huber, and Grosskreuz were not able to be introduced into this. It's not "Kyle shot a serial pedophile" to the jury, it's "Kyle shot a manlet" to the jury. Same with Huber and Grosskreuz. Just because we all know how utterly garbage they were, the jury will not.

Also, let's not forget that the jury is not sequestered.

The jury isn't sequestered, so why are you assuming they don't know about Rosenbong's kiddy diddling activities? Just because it wasn't brought up in the trial, doesn't mean the jurors never used the internet in 2020. Lots of people know.

But the guys Kyle shot came across as unsympathetic even if you're an alien visitor who landed in Kenosha WI just to observe the trial. Handyman performed poorly under cross examination. Rosenbong's angry gamer word shenanigans were discussed at length. The jury knows these guys weren't there to have a respectful conversation about inner city policing or Confederate statues.

Kyle did well on the stand, and showing emotion over the guys he wasted will help him with the jury. I'm betting on super not guilty.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

If prison time then the leftist get what they want anyway

They want nothing short of life without parole. They'd still chimp out (or at least bitch and moan on Twitter and CNNSNBC about muh huwite supremacy) if he was in jail for less than a year.

 

[Evilronald]

I think you guys are a bit unfair to people in Kenosha. They’re very proud and traditional kind of people (the white people at least). The culture that made a Kyle rittenhouse who would come there to protect the town would also have adults who would rather have justice than cower before a mob. And if rittenhouse gets acquitted I guarantee the government won’t let a riot, otherwise you’ll have dozens of rittenhouse type people out. The last thing the dems could have would be an acquittal and a bunch of armed militia scaring away rioters. So the police and guard won’t allow any violence this time

 

[Don't @ Me]

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Also, looks like the fedposter's account just got completely nuked. Good job!

Just the exceedingly out-of-nowhere depressing posts by the looks of it. The account still exists, maybe thread-banned. Speaking of which, what the heck happened? I close the site because the trial's over for the day, come back a few hours later, and there are 20 more pages of doomposting, fedposting, and a lot of posting not related to the trial.

Double speaking of which, did they say if anything was happening tomorrow, or is the trial continuing Monday, and nothing's happening over the weekend?

 

[Mr Bunny]

Just the exceedingly out-of-nowhere depressing posts by the looks of it. The account still exists, maybe thread-banned. Speaking of which, what the heck happened? I close the site because the trial's over for the day, come back a few hours later, and there are 20 more pages of doomposting, fedposting, and a lot of posting not related to the trial.

Double speaking of which, did they say if anything was happening tomorrow, or is the trial continuing Monday, and nothing's happening over the weekend?

Nothing till Monday, if we are good boys and girls we may even get a verdict on Monday, if not Tuesday, and if nothing by Tuesday I'm assuming a hung jury.

 

[Randall Fragg]

Just the exceedingly out-of-nowhere depressing posts by the looks of it. The account still exists, maybe thread-banned. Speaking of which, what the heck happened? I close the site because the trial's over for the day, come back a few hours later, and there are 20 more pages of doomposting, fedposting, and a lot of posting not related to the trial.

Double speaking of which, did they say if anything was happening tomorrow, or is the trial continuing Monday, and nothing's happening over the weekend?

Glowposter is threadbanned, along with several of the more obnoxious bait posters.
Keep the doomposting to a minimum please.

 

[lolwatagain]

I mean, we had two weeks of the prosecution completely and utterly fucking everything up

Yeah, but did they fuck up so badly that even a braindead retard would realize that the prosecution should have never brought this case to trial?

I don't know what I will do if people start rioting over a dead child rapist. My disgust would be immeasurable.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Are you saying Kyle's lawyers did a bad job of defending him? Because if you are that's exceptional. None of us here are lawyers, much less trial lawyers, and no one here is a criminal defense lawyer experienced in Wisconsin. This isn't TV or a law school mock court, it's a trial in criminal court against the State, and all its resources, as the prosecuting authority. I think they did a great job under the circumstances, given it' a political case that otherwise wouldn't have been prosecuted or resulted in a fine and/or probation at worst.

Good lawyers cost money, like $500/hr, and he had two experienced and reputable criminal defense attorneys. They spent a lot of billable hours on Kyle's case. Who do you think is paying for them, and those experts? It isn't Ms. Rittenhouse, the single parent. You have to take all of that into account and I think they gave Kyle a fighting chance, which is the best he could have gotten.

I don't wanna be a dick about it, but it's possible to have a grasp on something without doing it as a profession. It's possible to have a formal education related to trial law without having a J.D. or going to law school. You can even say it's possible that a person could spend a lot of time in a courtroom during criminal trials without having passed the Bar.

I'm not nor have I ever claimed to be in the profession or to give professional advice. I've shared my opinions on law with others here before and have been corrected on my misconceptions before. Either way, it's retarded to pretend that understanding the law is some kind of cursed, hidden temple of protected knowledge that's gatekept by a bunch of hyper-educated suits that had 2 free years and $100k to burn. I can see you wigging out if I were on here making claims misrepresenting myself, but the concepts people are discussing are chapter 1 undergraduate stuff. This isn't a super deep or complicated case, and the lawyers involved aren't digging deep into complicated legal concepts.

I didn't say his lawyers were doing a bad job. I said they were being lazy. They're not actively tanking his case, but they are constantly denying opportunities to help him. They're winning on most of their arguments, but they're not arguing as much as they should be.

 

[Stoneheart]

they should have called linus from linus drop tips on the stand, testifieng why 4k is just not enough for a decent set up.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

Call me a doomposter and laugh at me all you want, but this alone really diminishes the chances of an acquittal. This doesn't mean conviction, I'm thinking hung jury is the biggest possibility, The jury isn't sequestered and they'll have this weighing on their minds all weekend.

I can easily see some of the jury being swayed by the "if he was at home playing video games he wouldn't be in this situation, so he brought it on himself" argument, and wanting to convict him if it means keeping the peace (in their mind). These people risk being targeted for possible retaliation and character assassination and it takes balls that most people don't have to risk that for someone you don't know.

Do we have an explanation for why the jury wasn't sequestered? It's mind boggling to me that these high profile political cases are refusing to do it. Especially since the judge seems pretty level headed.

 

[Gestalt Writhe]

It seems Ziminski is an FBI asset. Despite being a possible key witness along with his whore, who was there with Kyle and Rosenbong, they somehow avoided the courtroom.

No opinion on the FBI thing but I'll point out that Kelly Ziminski (née Dunn) was sentenced to prison in April, so it's not like she could avoid a subpoena.

https://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetail.html?caseNo=2018CM000454&countyNo=51&index=0&mode=details

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

Do the jury instructions make clear that Provocation requires an unlawful act? If so and the judge uses the defense's proposed instructions for the possession charge, as long as the jury follows the instructions they cannot think "him just being there with a gun is provocation!"

 

[Gestalt Writhe]

Jesus christ, were any of these peaceful protestors NOT gigantic pieces of shit?

Article

28-year-old Kelly Dunn faces one count of misdemeanor theft, four counts of child neglect, and one count of obstructing an officer.

Police were dispatched to Menards, located at 3101 S. Oakes Road in Mount Pleasant, for a report of a retail theft on Thursday. Loss prevention told police that they saw the suspect steal a $2.98 chrome colored socket on surveillance video. They were also able to recognize the suspect from a previous theft at the Menards in Kenosha.

Police entered the holding room and made contact with the suspect, later identified as Dunn. She told police that she couldn't go to jail because her children were waiting for her in the van in the parking lot. Dunn also said she breastfeeds her infant that's in the van and she needs to go feed her.

Officers went to the van and found 4 unattended children in a cold van. An officer turned on the heat. It was determined that the children were left alone in the van for approximately 42 minutes without heat and unsupervised. The children were 2-weeks-old, 2-years-old, 3-years-old, and 5-years-old.

While waiting, officers allowed the woman to breastfeed her 2-week-old infant in the van. One officer stood outside of the van and noticed an orange colored glow inside. According to the criminal complaint, the officer opened the door and saw Dunn smoking a cigarette while breastfeeding her infant daughter.

Dunn admitted to stealing from Menards, saying she had a problem with "taking things." Dunn also allegedly told police that she knew she shouldn't have left her children in the van but did it because she thought it would only take a minute.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

Nigger I've killed more demons than you.

Spoiler: Powerlevel

Played every Shin Megami game to exist you little twerp

Weak.
Try something cultured.

Spoiler: Featuring Smoothie from the Kiwifarms!

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Do the jury instructions make clear that Provocation requires an unlawful act? If so and the judge uses the defense's proposed instructions for the possession charge, as long as the jury follows the instructions they cannot think "him just being there with a gun is provocation!"

It's illegal to aim a gun at someone without justification, which is what they're going for.

 

[mydekutree]

Binger San desu

 

[JoyfulDarter]

Do we have an explanation for why the jury wasn't sequestered? It's mind boggling to me that these high profile political cases are refusing to do it. Especially since the judge seems pretty level headed.

It's the age of cell phones and Facebook. Every aspect of Rittenhouse's case was broadcast everywhere already, what's the point? Like, I guess they could try to find some Amish commune or something and see if they'd agree to be the jury for the case.

 

[WTFisgoingon]

Jesus christ, were any of these peaceful protestors NOT gigantic pieces of shit?

Article

"four counts of child neglect"
I can't believe that there's yet another child abuser