Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

[Gehenna]

I do love how Barnes insists that all of his ideas are correct and better than anyone else.

You begin to see why he was kicked off the defense team entirely.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Listening to Racket's stream. He has an informant in Kenosha (apparently a high school student?) who said only 5 out of 18 jurors were wearing masks.

Everyone else in the court room isn't wearing masks. Obviously, most would assume those wearing masks may or may not have social and political alignments that favor a conviction.

Thonk.

I don't normally wear a mask, but in that situation I might just to make my identity a tiny bit harder to find.

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

I don't normally wear a mask, but in that situation I might just to make my identity a tiny bit harder to find.

No kidding. Could you imagine being in their position right now? Especially considering the death threats.

 

[ExsanguinateHorizon]

I'm hoping the jury doesn't allow themselves to be intimidated, the ones that aren't ideological snakes anyway. The threats to riot if Rittenhouse 'escapes justice' won't hold if people are given the explicit go to have the right to protect themselves and their city with lethal force.

The whole "he shouldn't have been there" argument. People are so fucking docile, so passive, so cucked

Been trying to work out why this npc statement bothers me so much. Not that everyone can or should be a warrior hero, but the projected attitude of stay home and eat shit is so fucking infuriating. Americans of all people have come to shame a 17 year old boy who was willing to do what 'grown' adults weren't. I'm not surprised by this considering the growing cow-like attitude that you should do nothing, ever, to protect yourselves or your community.

This do-nothing attitude doesn't have to be as extreme as war but is amplified in ghetto hoods where people accept their lot and do nothing to improve the area, only making things worse. They don't even try for a long-term better future, just screech for gibs when their 6th thug child is shot for violently resisting arrest for peaceful assault. They have been taught to do nothing.

Yes there were countless young men sacrificed in wars, terrified of the reality and out of their league, but you also got the crazy little shits that lied about their age because they wanted to serve. Some of them lived and did great things and probably left illegitimate offspring everywhere. But they should've stayed home because that's how hardship and conflicts are won, staying home and bitching about the ones that do the needful.

 

[Kickster]

I have to agree with you on this one. There is blatant corruption everywhere in this country from the small towns to the biggest cities, but it isn't a partisan issue. This is a human issue. Politics shouldn't be the dividing factor here.

But the ones in these positions of power further the divide and play politics and race wars and whatever they can to cause unrest and division because it means that they are no longer in danger of fucking around and finding out.

At least someone understand that it isn't sustainable just because for now they kill mostly people you don't like. It obliviously isn't a partisan issue since both parties don't "care" about it, one takes vote to stay on the cops' side, the other for being on the victims' side and neither want to change the status quo by trying to seriously address the violence issue, but hey it surely isn't a problem how violent usa cops are, even at home seeing how domestic violence is so common with cops, and it's obvious it helps their mental health to stay costantly on their thoes because there could be a shooting at any moment, and certantly believing every victim deserved it is an healthy way to cope.

 

[TJBirish]

I don't normally wear a mask, but in that situation I might just to make my identity a tiny bit harder to find.

The fact that so few jurors are wearing masks, despite having a perfectly good reason to do so, indicates they aren't a scared of being IDed as people are saying.

 

[Kickster]

Here's a flash for you.

In my own home state (that'd be NY), the main reason the rioters were not dealt with by the police is that local officials (namely the at-the-time mayor of NYC) were on-board with their objective. The police answer to those who have hiring and firing authority over them, which in NYC is the mayor's office. As a result, more often than not, when the rioters started torching shit, stealing, assaulting people, and worse, the police would stand down and let them do it. Only the worst offenses did the police even bother to try to intervene, and there's a reason for that.

So let's say you have the cops that aren't willing to kiss DeBlasio's ass, and are willing to arrest the rioters for being complete pieces of shit. Well, congratulations, because the local-level District Attorneys won't fucking prosecute, short of a murder or manslaughter charge. Here in NY, Arson that causes a death carries the death penalty, one of the rare offenses that does. The DA basically rubber stamped every Arson that hit their desk as not worth prosecuting.

I bring this shit up because this is exactly what happened in Kenosha. The entire Rittenhouse case would not have fucking happened if city officials had bothered to do their fucking jobs. They didn't because they cynically intended to use the riots as a weapon against the opposition and give themselves more authoritarian control that none of their constituents would ever have approved of.

This, not the 2A argument, is the critical reason why the state is throwing the book at this case. Civil order broke down because of their actions.

Exactly, the usa are a shithole and chaos broke free, but the kid wasn't protecting his property and neither the car dealership he said he was there to protect since he was wondering around, and it caused two people to die. You can cope as much as you want that those people deserved to die, and maybe it's true, but there's no place I would call civilized ehere you can just walk away with zero consequences after this. Not prosecuting him would have been like ammitting that the place regressed to a lawless wasteland

Why do Communist faggots always think they're the strong horse?

When the police fail to handle you, you're a problem to be solved by whoever wants to take up that mantle.

You could go the IRA method, and simply mutilate you with a shotgun, you can go for the Nazi method of setting up a parallel organisation to combat you, then kill you all, the British method of simply torturing you, etc

No matter who gets to be in charge, you degenerates are their first target. To gain the public's favour, they need to keep peace - and fags, thieves, nonces, drug users, etc, are the obvious choice. Turns out most people are too lazy to care if you get killed for being a degenerate - this is why the trial avoided mentioning that much about the guys Kyle killed.

Damn nigga i'm sure believing thant only people you don't like fall victim to the shitty sistem you got there is an healthy way to cope

 

[Rykel22]

The fact that so few jurors are wearing masks, despite having a perfectly good reason to do so, indicates they aren't a scared of being IDed as people are saying.

So that says to me:
A). They're in line with the mob and will throw the book at Kyle, evidence be dammed.
B). They have no idea of the ID pressure.
C). They don't care about being ID'd no mater what why the vote.

 

[MrHoneyBadger]

Kyle was trying to run he said that, “It’s what you’re supposed to do in an active shooter situation.”

He's hopeless.

 

[obsdj]

When I asked him why they would attack when Kyle was trying to run he said that, “It’s what you’re supposed to do in an active shooter situation.”

wat

 

[Super-Chevy454]

The guys of American Thinker are less optimist with that fuzzy drone image.

One fuzzy drone image may send Kyle Rittenhouse to prison

Up until Friday, the Kyle Rittenhouse trial was very clear: easily understood videos and witness testimony (including testimony from the prosecution witnesses) showed that Kyle, despite trying hard to avoid conflict, was attacked by a crazed child ra...

www.americanthinker.com

November 13, 2021

One fuzzy drone image may send Kyle Rittenhouse to prison​

By Andrea Widburg

Up until Friday, the Kyle Rittenhouse trial was very clear: easily understood videos and witness testimony (including testimony from the prosecution witnesses) showed that Kyle, despite trying hard to avoid conflict, was attacked by a crazed child rapist, whom Kyle shot as the rapist was grabbing Kyle's gun, at which point a mob went after Kyle. He then shot and killed a domestic abuser trying to bash his head in with a skateboard, and shot and wounded a felon aiming a loaded, illegal gun at his head. On Thursday, however, the court allowed prosecutors to enter into evidence a fuzzy photo from a late-produced drone, an image prosecutors argue shows Kyle "provoking" the attacks against him. Provocation destroys Kyle's assertion that he acted in self-defense.
Andrew Branca explains how well the prosecution did on Friday. The "unicorn" evidence that the prosecutors successfully fought to get admitted is the drone footage that they just coincidentally found at the last minute before the trial. According to the prosecution, an incredibly fuzzy photo that was computer-enhanced (meaning that A.I. made "educated" guesses about where pixels should go) shows Kyle pointing his gun at Joshua Ziminski, who fired the first shot that saw Rosenbaum, who had earlier threatened to kill Kyle, chase the boy.
The problem for Kyle is that, under Wisconsin law (as is the case under most states' laws), a person who provokes an attack may not then claim self-defense. If the jury accepts the drone footage as showing Kyle threatening people with the gun, then it was he who triggered (pun intended) all subsequent events, including his shooting three people. However, Wisconsin law also holds that even if someone provokes things, if he withdraws from the fight but pursuit continues, he can regain the self-defense privilege. In that regard, much of the footage shows Kyle desperately running away.

https://twitter.com/HoegLaw/status/1459223214018732033

I guess the prosecutors might receive some congratulations from their master George Soros.

 

[Kickster]

Yeah, we had a similar discussion on those subjects and his answers didn’t really make a whole lot of sense to me. When I asked him why they would attack when Kyle was trying to run he said that, “It’s what you’re supposed to do in an active shooter situation.” I of course responded with “I think you and I both know that isn’t true. You’re supposed to run and take cover.” He insisted he was correct I think out of some sense of pride and general stubbornness.

Isn't it the stand you ground doctrine or some shit like that

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

I don't normally wear a mask, but in that situation I might just to make my identity a tiny bit harder to find.

But that would be indicative of the people who are concerned about their safety for one reason or another.

Consider this.

The people who aren't concealing their identity may be aware of what the public is capable of, but isn't concerned because they believe that the use of deadly force is justified in self defense.

But you're correct. It could be anything. J like to speculate because it's fun.

 

[Puff]

Not prosecuting him would have been like ammitting that the place regressed to a lawless wasteland

It had, though.

 

[YarrBlueballs]

*Bullshit from someone who joined literally yesterday*

Are you the Prosecution's paralegal? Does the ADA force you to ghost author all his legal arguments?

 

[Goyslop Muncher]

No. I refuse to abandon someone who has been such a good and close friend to me over the years. You don’t disown your brother just because he got cancer.

Lol yeah no brother wars have always been a thing. The American Civil War literally had siblings fighting each other to the death. I can't talk to my brother about anything without him ranting about how antifa is just an idea, all white people need to die, and how much he hates himself for being white. There is no helping him.

 

[Super Guido]

Yeah, we had a similar discussion on those subjects and his answers didn’t really make a whole lot of sense to me. When I asked him why they would attack when Kyle was trying to run he said that, “It’s what you’re supposed to do in an active shooter situation.” I of course responded with “I think you and I both know that isn’t true. You’re supposed to run and take cover.” He insisted he was correct I think out of some sense of pride and general stubbornness.

Fighting is an option, but it's an absolute last resort for if you're cornered and absolutely not going to make it. None of the people Kyle dealt with should have approached him - they should have run the fuck away. Anyone who approaches someone with a gun when they have the option of fleeing is an absolute moron who should have paid attention when doing Active Shooter drills.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

At least someone understand that it isn't sustainable just because for now they kill mostly people you don't like. It obliviously isn't a partisan issue since both parties don't "care" about it, one takes vote to stay on the cops' side, the other for being on the victims' side and neither want to change the status quo by trying to seriously address the violence issue, but hey it surely isn't a problem how violent usa cops are, even at home seeing how domestic violence is so common with cops, and it's obvious it helps their mental health to stay costantly on their thoes because there could be a shooting at any moment, and certantly believing every victim deserved it is an healthy way to cope.

The issue isn't exclusive to just cops.
But not every cop behaves in that manner. Its considerably fewer than the public would believe.

However, I believe that the whole ACAB/Defund the Police thing is the absolute wrong way to approach things.

There needs to be better support for police officers, their families and ordinary citizens in mental health and identifying abusive situations. Sending in someone to deescalate a situation isn't going to work.

It needs to be dealt with at the roots before an incident even occurs, because in the event that something escalates to the point where an officer needs to pull out his gun, it's already too late.

 

[Kickster]

It had, though.

I know, but can a first world nation admit it? No

 

[Plaintiff is fat]

For those who aren't sure if the salt will be more delicious if he's acquitted or convicted, please consider this... if he's acquitted, at some point they have to give that rifle back to him.

They'd give it back to it's lawful owner, Dominick Black,, his sister's ex boyfriend. Who in turn can auction it off for 50x what that make of rifle goes for. Imagine if Kyle sues him for breaching their agreement that he'd turn it over after his 18th birthday lol, it's part of their sworn testimony.

those wearing masks may or may not have social and political alignments that favor a conviction.

counter thought: if I was on that jury I'd consider wearing a mask to conceal my identity