Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

[RomanesEuntDomus]

I wouldn't be surprised if the prosecution has their identity and leaked it to pill to mess with them on their behalf

The prosecution is vile and depraved, but it's not this bad. There is no reason to believe otherwise.

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

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The prosecution is vile and depraved, but it's not this bad. There is no reason to believe such nonsense.

dunno I could definitely see Binger doing that.

 

[TurkishOreo]

Yeah, in the Autobiography he made that very clear. Did they even go into that part in the movie (never saw it)? Or was it just one long "By Any Means Necessary Chickens Come Home To Roost" speech? The book was quite a read, which is why most people with Denzel-In-Glasses shirts never read it.

That X got a movie?

Shiet i hope someone makes a movie for Rittenhouse that's basically a 90m commercial for self-defense being the right choice.

 

[Rykel22]

My white pill about the jury staying home over the weekend; they're gonna see just how lopsided the coverage is. They're gonna see people like Lebron mocking Kyle crying, which they saw in person. If they don't get intimidated (I wouldn't be surprised if the prosecution has their identity and leaked it to pill to mess with them on their behalf), a weekend of watching the coverage will surely disgust them.

I hope that's the case. There's a difference in seeing someone have a breakdown over video and seeing it right in front of you, in real time.

 

[obsdj]

I'd like to believe this is the case, but I also think about people like my dumbass coworkers and imagine them bumblefucking their way through deciding whether I go to jail for the rest of my life or not.

I think we all do this, at the same time we're half-heartedly praising it as the best system in the world, in real life we just know too many idiots with Strong Opinions on Things. When the George Zimmerman trial was going on, I was watching the actual trial, while my roommate at the time was just angrily rambling every night about how "he stalked that poor kid." Refused to hear me when I tried to point out that that's not what happened, stalking has a legal definition and blah blah no, "he stalked that poor kid and murdered him." It's hard to have faith in the system knowing it hinges on people like this.

 

[SmugAutist]

My white pill about the jury staying home over the weekend; they're gonna see just how lopsided the coverage is. They're gonna see people like Lebron mocking Kyle crying, which they saw in person. If they don't get intimidated (I wouldn't be surprised if the prosecution has their identity and leaked it to pill to mess with them on their behalf), a weekend of watching the coverage will surely disgust them.

Or they will be normies that will stick to party loyalties or get scared at the prospect of having a repeat of what happened last year, so they will vote guilty even if they have doubts just to take the easy way out.

 

[Jaimas]

I agree. I also think it pissed them off that one kid with a rifle successfully ended that arson in one night. Iirc they did not riot on the 26th. The state can not allow their willing incompetence to be highlighted like this. Even if Kyle did nothing wrong he must be punished for doing what the state refused to do.

Think of how much time, money, and resources are spent buying off politicians of a certain political stripe, and getting them to hide their powerlevel just long enough to get into their position of authority, and then for them to use that specifically to become a fifth column against their own people - because that is exactly what this shit is.

The argument Binger repeatedly tried to make in that courtroom - though I can forgive you if you didn't have the stomach to endure what was basically the prosecutorial version of the Chewbacca Defense - was that there literally is no justified use of force in self-defense, not even if someone is threatening to kill you, has physically attacked you, announced intent to kill you, and most critically, has a fuck-mothering gun pointed at you.

He flat-out believes you do not have the right to defend yourself - and that you should rely on the police..... Who were ordered to stand down, by people like him, and allowed the riots to happen. Bend over, and let the brownshirts have their way, peasant.

 

[H. Bergeron]

So about all that zoom & enhance bullshit.. isn't that tampering with evidence?

 

[The Keebler Elf]

My white pill about the jury staying home over the weekend; they're gonna see just how lopsided the coverage is. They're gonna see people like Lebron mocking Kyle crying, which they saw in person. If they don't get intimidated (I wouldn't be surprised if the prosecution has their identity and leaked it to pill to mess with them on their behalf), a weekend of watching the coverage will surely disgust them.

I'm actually in the reverse situation. The prosecution, from what I could tell by watching Rikieta's coverage the past two days, has decided to throw a bunch of additional charges because Binger and Big Boy are worried the murder charges won't stick. Even if the jury thinks Kyle defended himself in all three shootings, I worry Kyle will still be put in prison for years because he might be found guilty on those other charges. And this is not taking into account the inevitable intimidation that'll be done by activists that will try and strongarm the court to get the correct verdict, like in the Chauvin trial.

 

[FatalTater]

Reddit bots have heard that the National Guard is going to be in Kenosha. What, pray tell, do they think is going to happen?
The NG showed up in a lot of places back during the fiery but mostly peaceful protests.
They stood around, then left.
Will Kenosha 2021 be different? Stay tuned!

 

[RodgerDodger]

I found out years later that the marines and army are two different branches as I was a young kid when I first saw this movie.

How would the USMC handled Normandy given that they had extensive experience in how to stage amphibious landings in the pacific in addition to the Nazis fearing the USMC out of all of its enemies due to them fighting them in the Argonne Forest during World War 1.

Actually not exactly. The US Marines at that point had some, but not extensive experience in landings. Guadalcanal was a lightly opposed landing. Tarawa was really the only major contested landing. It was a learning experience that provided the basis for American Amphibious landings going forward. The Marines great crawl across the Pacific really began 10 days after Normandy at Saipain. Normandy and Saipan were worked out and planned side by side using the leszons learned fro. Tarawa and North Africa. Everyone remembers D-day, but misses that the US did it again, the following week, on the opposite side of the planet.

Really the only thing the Marines might have done differently at Normandy is they might have added their Gators to the mix. Their ambibious transports. But thats iffy as the main purpose of the infernal machines was to get over and around coral reefs. Not a problem at Normandy. The only other trick the Marines had was they insisted that the supporting big gun ships be fully trained in close fire support and have embedded Navy gunnery officers landing with the Marines to act as shore to ship artilery spotters. The Marines had taken the old Pearl Harbor Battleships of the 7th fleet and taught them how to properly and precisely support landing troops.

 

[Matt Damon]

Even if the jury thinks Kyle defended himself in all three shootings, I worry Kyle will still be put in prison for years because he might be found guilty on those other charges.

I agree - there's a tendency to want to compromise on such things when "compromise" in this case means putting a kid in prison for years over the most filmed case of clear-cut self-defense in human history.

 

[Meat Target]

I think we all do this, at the same time we're half-heartedly praising it as the best system in the world

It's far from perfect, but it's better than the other systems in the world.

I agree - there's a tendency to want to compromise on such things when "compromise" in this case means putting a kid in prison for years over the most filmed case of clear-cut self-defense in human history.

What does public opinion of Kyle look like in Kenosha? If he's well-liked locally, they could be ostracized for voting to convict.

 

[SmugAutist]

I'm actually in the reverse situation. The prosecution, from what I could tell by watching Rikieta's coverage the past two days, has decided to throw a bunch of additional charges because Binger and Big Boy are worried the murder charges won't stick. Even if the jury thinks Kyle defended himself in all three shootings, I worry Kyle will still be put in prison for years because he might be found guilty on those other charges. And this is not taking into account the inevitable intimidation that'll be done by activists that will try and strongarm the court to get the correct verdict, like in the Chauvin trial.

Not fighting that will come to haunt them during closing arguments. The defense's inability to both realize how much Binger and Kraus are slimy fucks and that this is a trial which will be decided via media spin and poltical affiliations is what will destroy them.

 

[Meat Target]

I'm actually in the reverse situation. The prosecution, from what I could tell by watching Rikieta's coverage the past two days, has decided to throw a bunch of additional charges because Binger and Big Boy are worried the murder charges won't stick. Even if the jury thinks Kyle defended himself in all three shootings, I worry Kyle will still be put in prison for years because he might be found guilty on those other charges. And this is not taking into account the inevitable intimidation that'll be done by activists that will try and strongarm the court to get the correct verdict, like in the Chauvin trial.

That was fucking scummy. Not only is it moving the goalposts, it's tilting the goalposts.

 

[Matt Damon]

What does public opinion of Kyle look like in Kenosha?

I don't know about Kenosha itself, but practically everyone I've talked to in other parts of the state is saying "Why was this kid even charged?"

I sure hope that's indicative of something.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

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dunno I could definitely see Binger doing that.

He's a slime scumbag that tries to bait people into saying something that he can use as a foothold to crowbar nonsense into the head of the jury. He's a prosecution attorney.
But such thug tactics? Nah. It's the exact same kind of thing Twitterfags claim when they say the judge, jury and everyone else is biased and the is just a showtrial with an acquittal set up in advance.

It's silly in both instances.

 

[Flaming Carrot]

LeI want to help him understand that the path he’s on is one that has historically embraced violence and hate. I don’t want to watch my friends, the people I love and care about suffer the way he is because of some petty politics. I know he’s better than this. I know they can all be better than this.

Your friend doesn't sound like he's swayed by random posts from sites with names like PaatrionGunnews.org, so here's a couple non-right wing stories about the case.

There's an article in the New Yorker about Kyle Rittenhouse that came out earlier this year.

Kyle Rittenhouse, American Vigilante

After he killed two people in Kenosha, opportunists turned his case into a polarizing spectacle.

www.newyorker.com

Kyle Rittenhouse, American Vigilante | The New Yorker

archived 25 Sep 2021 06:22:32 UTC

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It's the New Yorker, so there's obviously a lot of whining about people owning guns and vigilantes and whatever. However, the journalist also considerably more sympathetically than the Turbo Hitler that social media is currently making him.

Freddie DeBoer doesn't seem to care for Rittenhouse much, but he makes the point that by endorsing people rioting and burnging things, liberals have opened the door for people they don't like to commit acts of violence as well

When You Condone Chaos, You Condone the Consequences of Chaos

it's our old friend, the inevitable consequences of our own beliefs

freddiedeboer.substack.com

When You Condone Chaos, You Condone the Consequences of Chaos - by Fr…

archived 12 Nov 2021 00:57:15 UTC

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Your friend may not like some of the people who attached themselves to Kyles case, especially the ones who appear to be using it to fundraise instead of doing something to help him. He might not like like that Kyle was out there that night or his political beliefs or whatever. But people were rioting and burning down buildings. I'd have more sympathy for the idea that Kyle should be charged with crimes if the government wasn't shruging its shoulders at the people trying to blow up a gas station.

 

[Meat Target]

(I wouldn't be surprised if the prosecution has their identity and leaked it to pill to mess with them on their behalf)

The prosecution is vile and depraved, but it's not this bad. There is no reason to believe otherwise.

He's a slime scumbag that tries to bait people into saying something that he can use as a foothold to crowbar nonsense into the head of the jury. He's a prosecution attorney.
But such thug tactics? Nah. It's the exact same kind of thing Twitterfags claim when they say the judge, jury and everyone else is biased and the is just a showtrial with an acquittal set up in advance.

It's silly in both instances.

What if he were to do that, not to get a guilty verdict, but to trigger a mistrial?

 

[Wy4M]

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