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Razorfist theorizes this is a stopgap decision until indy 5 is done. That movie's been delayed 2 years and she's got no more time to green light anything new.
Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off
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Yeah, having her leave Disney/LF before Indy 5 would send another bad signal. The real decision will be made once the movie is released. Then I bet Rejwan will become the new head of Disney/LF because she was JJ's assistant when she worked at Bad Robot and it's all about nepotism.
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Well now I know what copium anti-shills like Doomcuck will bleat out now. Nice to know really.
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Doomcuck would rather shill for Cowboy Dave (despite having never watched an episode of TCW, Rebels or Mando) or whatever
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I'm not even surprised but I can't help at be amazed how the morons at Lucasfilm and Disney keep finding new ways to outdo their own incompetence. It shouldn't be this hard yet they keep finding new ways to make mountains out of mole hills. Every movie they've tried to make ends up the same: horrible production, lots of delays, directors getting switched out at random, then complete reshoots because Kennedy, Horn or Iger didn't like what they saw, and finally some awful pr stunt gone wrong and throwing the word bigot at critics for no reason. I can only wonder how they'll top themselves after this one, especially with Kennedy still on the saddle like everyone knew would happen.
Nah. He'll do the exact same thing he did last time her contract got renewed. Pretend like he never made up a bunch of rumors about Kennedy getting axed, claim that there's some big drama going on between Kennedy and Lord Filoni, remind his viewers to subscribe, buy his merch and emojis, and his viewers will pretend like he never said anything that wasn't totally bullshit despite leaching hundreds of dollars from hopium-fueled suckers during his livestreams with his false promises.
And Doomcuck fans are still salty at this guy for telling them the truth.
There's no Lucasfilm Civil War, no Filoni Army vs Kennedy Army drama, no Kennedy termination in the works, no reboots or retcons on the way, and no secret insiders at Lucasfilm that are on Doomcock's nonexistent payroll or friendship circle, and if any such things are even remotely true then you wont hear them from Doomcock. And further more, the only reason he probably even got that celebrity guest star on his stream was because of the fame he built on lies and leeching off that "Council" cult of his, not because he ever had any real ties to Hollywood.
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Even Frank Marshall is dabbing on the masked grifter:
Not true. When everyone inevitably gets replaced they'll smear the old guys/gals to make themselves look better.
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Does he really care? If Star Wars was good, he wouldn't have a job! Or more like he would have one, but a less comfortable e-celeb one. But ya know what I mean.
It's pretty amazing to think about how many jobs Kathleen Kennedy created by making so many shitty movies and bad business decisions, even if they are e-celebs mining outrage on the internet.
It's also crazy to think about how she's been president of Lucasfilm for damn near 10 years now. Why would they suddenly fire her for things she did if they clearly didn't care enough to fire her for fucking up TFA, RO, TLJ, Soylo, Plan 9, so on an so forth?
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In general, I have no idea what Disney's goal with Star Wars is. Maybe according to the higher ups she is doing a good job. I would really need to know what is the big picture there to actually even have a clue.
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Star wars made back their investment. Those 4 billions, I think it's what is matters to them. Everything else is irrelevant
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Not exactly true. Star Wars made 4 billion back, yes, but its still a shit investment because it took several years to get that money back That's a lot of lost opportunity cost. Just making the money back is a huge L.
What Disney really cared about was the strategic acquisition of Star Wars. Netflix didn't get it, Fox didn't get, nor did Sony, Universal, Amazon, MGM, etc. Thats why they were willing to burn it for datamining.
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Really? I'd be intrigued to see the numbers you're relying on for that adventurous statement.
Just to highlight some of the elements that need to be taken into account..... don't forget to;
1 discount the reported box office receipts to account for the actual net receipts that can be properly accredited to Lucasfilm;
2 discount for the costs of running Lucasfilm since Disney acquisition that can be properly related to the SW franchise including those derived from the wider Disney empire;
3 discount all net receipts to reflect the impact of inflation between the acquisition of Lucasfilm and the date of those net receipts;
4 discount to take account of the loss effected by not investing that $4.05B elsewhere (or the financing cost of Disney taking on that additional debt);
5 take account of the net financial impact (positive or negative) from non film transactions such as merchandising, books, licensing and TV shows;
6 take account of any increase or decrease in value of the relevant assets including of course the value of the Star Wars IP.
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They are obviously dissatisfied with how the franchise is going. Even if the original plan for one SW movie per year was obviously overambitious, we’ve went from that to… basically nothing.
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Let's not forget that 4 billion USD is worth less that 4 billion USD 10 years ago.
Overambitious sure, but the problem is Star Wars isn't Marvel. You can't just make a cinematic universe out of it and shit out movies every year. Outside of the EU, Star Wars worked so well as a film series because you didn't get a new movie all the time. It took years, or over a decade between trilogies. Whenever a new one come out, it was an event.
Now we get shitty Disney Wars related every week and we had a movie come out every year for 5 years straight. I already talked about them blowing their load with Rogue One in terms of sheer visual spectacle and ideas and their insistence on nothing but movies/TV shows related to the OT has made it so that they're repeating themselves.
I think Soylo failed because of this. It had nothing new to say, on top of being a shitty movie. I don't know how much TLJ sucking had an effect on its box office because Plan 9 still made over a billion (sure it was less than TLJ but still a billion), I seriously doubt the le Fandom Menace ""boycott"" had anything to do with it, also Avengers Infinity War coming out a few weeks earlier and made sure just completely overshadowed it. Disney thinks "prequels bad" and the sequels are obviously a creative dead end.
You can't forget about them buying the entirety of Fox and doing almost nothing with it. I guess they wanted the rights for ANH so badly they'd go into massive amounts of debt for it.
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This is my own autistic tinfoil speculation, and might sound funny with all genderspeciality they've been doing, but hear me out.
I believe that Disney bought Star Wars and Fox to corner the market for Boy's Toys.
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Buying LucasFilm I believe was a 100% defensive buy. They didn't want Fox to get all the Star Wars rights - I mean, imagine a non-retarded Episode 7 dropping opposite whatever capeshit spectacle they were pumping out this year. Hell, imagine a full-retard Episode 7 and people seeing it anyway because they're getting burned out on capeshit.
I mean, Disney has Star Wars and Fox now; Fox didn't have anything in the space, but they have tons of properties that could be used to threaten them. That's no longer a concern.
The only threat Disney has, really, is Jurrassic Park. Universal tripped on their own dick trying to make a "Universal Monsters Cinematic Universe" with the Mummy reboot, and even then that was aimed at older audiences. MGM/Eon has Bond, but even if we forget the fogniggers tripping over themselves to publically castrate themselves but killing him, that'd be a huge brand overhaul to get the character 'cleaned up' to be kid friendly.
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I think some of us crunched the numbers before in this thread (my memory is hazy after my whiskey-induced lobotomy) and the numbers didn't look that great iirc even with merch sales. Even if they had somehow managed to make a profit of 4 billion through films and merch alone, then that's hardly a profit, especially with inflation. For it to have churned a profit they would've had to have made more than twice what they paid for the brand, inflation included, within a set amount of time. And that's without including all the fees and taxes they have to pay, plus the cut of the films they have to give to the cinemas and to the Chinese film distributors who demand a hefty share for US films to be reviewed, altered and then distributed for chinese cinemas. Then there's royalties, film budgets, ads, etc. And the toys don't really sell well outside of OT material which seems to be the majority of the Lucasfilm's source for profits now. The comics also sold well at the beginning but are barely a blip on the radar since 2016, same with the Disney Wars novels. There's also the cut of the profits EA took from games which was negatively affected by the drama surrounding EAfront II.
So yes, even if Disney made back more what they paid for and them some with interest, it still wouldn't be enough when concerning inflation, fees and financial losses from failed ventures and the drama heavy productions filled with expensive reshoots worth whole movies themselves, along with any other failures they're not releasing to the public. The only real profit in SW is simply to raise Disney's status as a superbrand and attract more investors and shareholders which is where the real money is at. And the majority of the investors and shareholders are such hapless saps that they go along with whatever Disney says, and the few that don't either back out due to peer pressure or due to being advised against questioning Disney by their number-focused consultants. Kennedy in the end is just a "sweet face" for a moronic branch of a greedy company with a lot of charisma and business chatter know-how that investors can get behind especially with her vast history of slapping her name on anything Spielberg worked on. And even if she didn't have any skill at being a snakeoil seller for investors, with a powerhouse like Spielberg supporting her, there's no way she's going anywhere unless she wants to. And if that weren't the case, the entire executive branch of Disney including fuck ups like Alan Horn are all cut from the same soulless cloth. Its all fucked. They know it. But they can keep on bullshitting through it and still get the influence they need to keep on growing for whatever ungodly purpose they have in mind.
so I guess today is Life Day
Happy Life Day and fuck you very much.
Love,
Lucasfilm
Happy Life Day and fuck you very much.
Love,
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you can, there's plenty of room for it. the problem is you can't do a cross-over event like endgame every year (which the star wars movies basically are). even the MCU doesn't do that, in the whole 10 year run they had 4 big event movies (and 2 of those were at the very end), 5 if you count civil war. the rest were mostly origin movies and sequels to establish the characters with a smaller cast and (usually) smaller stakes. there's nothing preventing star wars from doing the same, and you got a whole universe to play in so the movies don't even have to be connected (besides some mention or easter egg). just give people lightsabers, space magic and pew pew (or a cute baby yoda) with a non-retarded story and they'll be fine with it.
I've said it before, but the biggest irony is that solo would probably be a better movie (and better received) if the wasn't a wanky MUH HAN SOLO backstory. of course coming out right after TLJ didn't help it either.
or look at it this way, lot of people consider empire the best movie of the OT, and that one is hardly as spectacular and "big" as the other two.
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