Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

I find it interesting that with all the breakdowns Jazz seemed to have, the only person who went over to hug him was a producer. Mom was looking annoyed, brothers confused, Ari over it, Dad thinking “durr” and all left poor Jazz hysterical with a producer hugging her.
They did hug him when he was crying the night before his speech, they just acted awkwardly because they don't know what to do. No teenager calls the whole family to have a breakdown in front of them. Most teenagers would do so in private because teenagers aren't very much into sharing feelings. If they did, their siblings would laugh at them for being pussies. And, during this episode, you can see both Ari and Griffin close to rolling their eyes either at him or at the situation.

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Jazz: I HAVE FEELINGS!!
Family: -_-

That's what I meant when I previously mentioned Jazz only knows life through the eyes of a reality show. He needs an audience for all his antics to tell them how he feels and to receive validation and reassurance from them. He expects everything will be solved in a Kodak moment and he thinks that's real life.
 
They did hug him when he was crying the night before his speech, they just acted awkwardly because they don't know what to do. No teenager calls the whole family to have a breakdown in front of them. Most teenagers would do so in private because teenagers aren't very much into sharing feelings. If they did, their siblings would laugh at them for being pussies. And, during this episode, you can see both Ari and Griffin close to rolling their eyes either at him or at the situation.

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Jazz: I HAVE FEELINGS!!
Family: -_-

That's what I meant when I previously mentioned Jazz only knows life through the eyes of a reality show. He needs an audience for all his antics to tell them how he feels and to receive validation and reassurance from them. He expects everything will be solved in a Kodak moment and he thinks that's real life.

I know this is KIwi Farms and all but I’ve had this feeling for some time that people on the thread can be way too harsh towards Jazz.

He thinks things can be solved this way because that’s all he can know. Some of the most important moments in his life were filmed for TLC and those producers actively push for such behavior from Jazz. Kodak moments are cliche and are in no way real, but they make for great television. The LGBT cult also strongly has a culture that pushes this. Good vs Evil. There is no black and white and there is no such thing as nuance. Love and friendship and unicorn poop sparkles will solve ALL the worlds problems, so clap and believe. Just BELIEVE and you WILL become that strong and stunning woman! Your life WILL end like a Disney movie if you wish upon that star hard enough. And the cult knows this is a lie.

I genuinely feel there are many people on this thread who actually care about Jazz and pity his situation. NONE of this can be his fault and NO ONE can say they would be able to act differently given the same cards. Jazz CAN’T act differently - his mother is a psychopath that rams things up his crotch wound to stop it from healing and the LGBT cult would literally threaten to kill him if he went against their code. We ALL know this. They make death threats to anyone who refuses to lick their boots. This poor kid is a literal hostage to them. Therefore calling Jazz names and hating him fits the LGBT’s narrative. I don’t hate him - I hate almost everyone in this situation BUT him.

So lay off on calling him fat and stupid so much. You all know you would be too if you had Jeanette, Greg and the LGBT cult as parents.
 
I know this is KIwi Farms and all but I’ve had this feeling for some time that people on the thread can be way too harsh towards Jazz.

He thinks things can be solved this way because that’s all he can know. Some of the most important moments in his life were filmed for TLC and those producers actively push for such behavior from Jazz. Kodak moments are cliche and are in no way real, but they make for great television. The LGBT cult also strongly has a culture that pushes this. Good vs Evil. There is no black and white and there is no such thing as nuance. Love and friendship and unicorn poop sparkles will solve ALL the worlds problems, so clap and believe. Just BELIEVE and you WILL become that strong and stunning woman! Your life WILL end like a Disney movie if you wish upon that star hard enough. And the cult knows this is a lie.

I genuinely feel there are many people on this thread who actually care about Jazz and pity his situation. NONE of this can be his fault and NO ONE can say they would be able to act differently given the same cards. Jazz CAN’T act differently - his mother is a psychopath that rams things up his crotch wound to stop it from healing and the LGBT cult would literally threaten to kill him if he went against their code. We ALL know this. They make death threats to anyone who refuses to lick their boots. This poor kid is a literal hostage to them. Therefore calling Jazz names and hating him fits the LGBT’s narrative. I don’t hate him - I hate almost everyone in this situation BUT him.

So lay off on calling him fat and stupid so much. You all know you would be too if you had Jeanette, Greg and the LGBT cult as parents.
Lol no.
Jazz is fat and stunted and has a mangled crotch.
Nowhere on the internet, or perhaps on planet earth, will you find people more supportive of and sympathetic to Jazz than in this thread. Jazz, who has been abused by maniacs his entire life. But he is fat and stupid, as a result of that abuse. Like all adults who come from mentally, emotionally, medically, and lbr, sexually abusive homes, he has a long way to go but will have to take responsibility for himself too. The victims of troonery so often turn around and become advocates and victimize others. He's an adult now, on television, espousing harmful views constantly. How long do we say "oh well he doesn't know any better, look at his family!" Eventually Jazz needs to decide whether or not he wants to be the face of emotional and sexual abuse in order to encourage it in other children, or if he wants to step up and say NO.

Also, fat
 
Lol no.
Jazz is fat and stunted and has a mangled crotch.
Nowhere on the internet, or perhaps on planet earth, will you find people more supportive of and sympathetic to Jazz than in this thread. Jazz, who has been abused by maniacs his entire life. But he is fat and stupid, as a result of that abuse. Like all adults who come from mentally, emotionally, medically, and lbr, sexually abusive homes, he has a long way to go but will have to take responsibility for himself too. The victims of troonery so often turn around and become advocates and victimize others. He's an adult now, on television, espousing harmful views constantly. How long do we say "oh well he doesn't know any better, look at his family!" Eventually Jazz needs to decide whether or not he wants to be the face of emotional and sexual abuse in order to encourage it in other children, or if he wants to step up and say NO.

Also, fat

I never said he wasn’t fat or stupid. I said lay off calling him fat and stupid so much because he never had the ability to escape his situation.

As I said - his mother and the LGBT movement are literally terrifying and Sanders resting “validate my existence” face proves it. You have a young man so scared of the cult he’s actually worried about saying he doesn’t want to date trannies. You gotta give Jazz a bit of a break when those are the cards you have because it’s likely you wouldn’t be able to come out of it any differently.

That doesn’t excuse his actions obviously. But you can also sympathize with him and constantly calling him names just feels like hitting down. It says more about us than him is what I’m saying because it proves the LGBT movement right.

EDIT: By the way, my post was simply a consider this, so don’t get so riled up and triggered. You do you.
 
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I never said he wasn’t fat or stupid. I said lay off calling him fat and stupid so much because he never had the ability to escape his situation.

As I said - his mother and the LGBT movement are literally terrifying and Sanders resting “validate my existence” face proves it. You have a young man so scared of the cult he’s actually worried about saying he doesn’t want to date trannies. You gotta give Jazz a bit of a break when those are the cards you have because it’s likely you wouldn’t be able to come out of it any differently.

That doesn’t excuse his actions obviously. But you can also sympathize with him and constantly calling him names just feels like we’re hitting down. It says more about us than him is what I’m saying because it proves the LGBT movement right.

EDIT: By the way, my post was simply a consider this, so don’t get so riled up and triggered. You do you.
Please stop with the moralfaggotry. We can call him fat, because he is fat. We can say he's got a mangled stinkditch, because he's got a mangled stinkditch. We can say that he has the intelligence and emotional development of a child, because he has the intelligence and emotional development of a child. These things are facts. While the reason behind them is tragic, it's hardly 'hitting down' to state the truth. If I wanted to read about how stunning and brave he is to be living his authentic life, I sure af wouldn't be reading about it here.

Nice projection there btw.
 
Please stop with the moralfaggotry. We can call him fat, because he is fat. We can say he's got a mangled stinkditch, because he's got a mangled stinkditch. We can say that he has the intelligence and emotional development of a child, because he has the intelligence and emotional development of a child. These things are facts. While the reason behind them is tragic, it's hardly 'hitting down' to state the truth. If I wanted to read about how stunning and brave he is to be living his authentic life, I sure af wouldn't be reading about it here.

Nice projection there btw.

Dude, you’re talking to someone who posted an anti-Semitic joke a few posts back. I know what place I’m in. I know this is Kiwi Farms. I said so at the beginning of my post.

You can stop putting words in my mouth like saying I don’t want you to say truths or facts. I never said that.

I simply said consider the context. You can say “Did it, still think he’s fat” all you want. I’m not offended by it and you’re free to do it so the sperging out just seems like an overreaction.
 
Please stop with the moralfaggotry. We can call him fat, because he is fat. We can say he's got a mangled stinkditch, because he's got a mangled stinkditch. We can say that he has the intelligence and emotional development of a child, because he has the intelligence and emotional development of a child. These things are facts. While the reason behind them is tragic, it's hardly 'hitting down' to state the truth. If I wanted to read about how stunning and brave he is to be living his authentic life, I sure af wouldn't be reading about it here.

Nice projection there btw.
Agreed.

I think that a lot of us are horrified by the trans-evangelist Jaron has become. It’s one thing if he just wants to damage his own body, but when he tries to convert others (like Jojo and his based grandma) that’s when we get pissed. Especially when he, of all people, should know the dangers of his conversion.

I have no doubt that many here would actually gain respect for Jazz if one day he decided to speak out and be *truthful* about the effects of the transition and what happened to him, but he feels too indebted to the Trans-cult to do that. As long as he keeps trying to convert kids into his damaging movement, I (and others here) will continue to make fun of him and call him out on his shit.
 
I understand that victims of child abuse should be held responsible if they perpetuate it as adults, but how much of an adult is Jazz, really? After missing crucial stages of brain development? He's chronologically an adult, but so are people with severe Down syndrome. There's a real chance Jazz may actually lack the cognitive capacity to be held accountable.
 
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If you watch the early episodes -- or the retrospective that was on recently and will be shown again -- you'll see that he's actually much LESS self-righteous and annoyingly preachy than he used to be but, yes, there's still the farming out of Jojo and her sensible Granny Moneybags to the Cousin Debbie. We'll see how enthused he is THIS season, now that's it's all coming crashing down around him. Seems Sander has taken over the advocacy role now -- even from Jeanette, who is probably also having second thoughts/ruing the day. She once asked a critic, "Does she LOOK like a 'freak' to you?" At age 14, he didn't; now, he does.
 
I know this is KIwi Farms and all but I’ve had this feeling for some time that people on the thread can be way too harsh towards Jazz.

He thinks things can be solved this way because that’s all he can know. Some of the most important moments in his life were filmed for TLC and those producers actively push for such behavior from Jazz. Kodak moments are cliche and are in no way real, but they make for great television. The LGBT cult also strongly has a culture that pushes this. Good vs Evil. There is no black and white and there is no such thing as nuance. Love and friendship and unicorn poop sparkles will solve ALL the worlds problems, so clap and believe. Just BELIEVE and you WILL become that strong and stunning woman! Your life WILL end like a Disney movie if you wish upon that star hard enough. And the cult knows this is a lie.

I genuinely feel there are many people on this thread who actually care about Jazz and pity his situation. NONE of this can be his fault and NO ONE can say they would be able to act differently given the same cards. Jazz CAN’T act differently - his mother is a psychopath that rams things up his crotch wound to stop it from healing and the LGBT cult would literally threaten to kill him if he went against their code. We ALL know this. They make death threats to anyone who refuses to lick their boots. This poor kid is a literal hostage to them. Therefore calling Jazz names and hating him fits the LGBT’s narrative. I don’t hate him - I hate almost everyone in this situation BUT him.

So lay off on calling him fat and stupid so much. You all know you would be too if you had Jeanette, Greg and the LGBT cult as parents.
Part of the reason people are so harsh towards him is because he's still campaigning for the tranny agenda. The closest he's come to saying anything negative about the narrative was when he decided not to sugarcoat how the surgery went. Even then, we don't know why he was so open about that. The idea that Jazz didn't understand why he was supposed to lie is just as likely as the idea that he wanted to inform would-be troons of the consequences.

I think Jazz is a miserable shell of a person who is just starting to realize that the nightmare never ends. I also think that he's too content with the comfort that growing up as a pimped out science project has afforded him. Right now he's fat and stupid, and he makes fat and stupid decisions. So what can ya do?
 
I've actually thought that Jazz is an exception to the rule that most troons should detransition. Her medical history is so unusual that she'll never be able to live as a fully formed adult of either gender, so if she's more comfortable staying a "woman", so be it. It's a world of difference from someone who attained puberty and adulthood as a normal male and could conceivably go back.
Jazz is already living life as a man. His medical history is terrifying and unusual, but it's something that could only happen to a male. Men who have their dicks and balls surgically removed are still men. Men who have developmental delays or cognitive problems are still men. His comfort level and appearance do nothing to change his sex. In his current state he's no more "a woman" than Sander is.
There's a real chance Jazz may actually lack the cognitive capacity to be held accountable.
It would look real bad if Harvard let in someone who presumably had the mental capacity for Harvard, but not the mental capacity to be held responsible for their own actions.
 
Was this in the preview or the full episode?

I've actually thought that Jazz is an exception to the rule that most troons should detransition. Her medical history is so unusual that she'll never be able to live as a fully formed adult of either gender, so if she's more comfortable staying a "woman", so be it. It's a world of difference from someone who attained puberty and adulthood as a normal male and could conceivably go back.
Agree. The reality is that Jazz has been selling the "I am a real gorl" lie to every single person he knows. The psychological burden of walking that back completely to every single person he has ever met AND the American public is unreasonable to expect from a 20, 40, 60 year old. It's on the level of an addict having to right their wrongs. Most of them never do. Not likely that Jazz can do it, even if he wants to. He would have to invent a wholly new identity and probably leave his family. It's the healthiest thing for him but it's just never going to happen. The closest he could realistically get is to go on GMA and blast Bowers' ass for the horrific shit that creep did to his genitals.

I think Jazz is a miserable shell of a person who is just starting to realize that the nightmare never ends. I also think that he's too content with the comfort that growing up as a pimped out science project has afforded him. Right now he's fat and stupid, and he makes fat and stupid decisions. So what can ya do?
Jazz has never lived apart from Mom. He has never had a real job where his fuck ups had consequences. He has had TLC producers buzzing in his ear for 7 years. He literally has no idea what the real world is like because he was never allowed to find out. He's dumb because the adults in his life (not just Jeanette) have kept him in an ignorance bubble. I think his hesitation at Harvard was actually a very mature response- he knows he's not ready for it, but he's being pressured by Mom and the TLC storyline to keep going anyway because he's so "brave and strong" and they've all invested so much. It's something he CLEARLY doesn't believe about himself.
 
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