Global Supply Chain Crisis 2021: Megathread - A cozy thread for watching the supply chain fall apart just in time for the holidays

[Mukhrani]

How did it end up working for them historically?

Not well. One of the Qing princes ended up pissing of a coalition of European powers during the Second Opium War so much that, in order to get revenge, they went to the Summer Palace and tore the entire thing to pieces and burnt all the gardens. This really was a tragedy because the palace was considered the height of architectural and landscape design for that era, and had a very interesting wing that was based on Western architecture, designed by the Jesuit artist Lang Shining. This palace was almost five times as large as the Forbidden City and it took thousands of troops days to destroy the whole thing.

I can't really say that the West's impulses have worked well for us either. Our obsession with 'civilizing' other people has lead us to squander blood and treasure in countless stupid wars in shithole countries while our empires collapsed around us. I think that the Chinese getting their shit pushed in was an artifact of geopolitics and not due to an essential flaw within their system. Just look at Afghanistan and you can see that the Chinese approach is much more sane than ours: make deals with the stone age goatherders, slurp up their valuable mineral deposits, and use your influence with them to fuck with anyone else who threatens your interests. There's zero sense of 'yellow man's burden' involved, just cold, hard self-interest.

It's also true that the one thing which could have brought the Chinese up to speed and made them a civilizational threat to the West again was technological parity, and Western corporations handed them our IP on a silver platter in pursuit of the almighty dollar. China was set to remain closed off from the world; we insisted on opening them up in part because we held a belief just as delusional as those of the late Qing: that just by trading with us China would magically liberalize and become like the West, because our way of life was destined to win out and had some irresistible historical force behind it. Completely delusional idea, yet it's still very influential in the West.

 

[Sped Xing]

IIRC the price of goat (especially meat goat) has gone up a lot in the past few years in the US because there's been a lot of Indian/Muzzie/Hispanic immigration and those cultures love goat meat. The demand has long outstripped the supply. I know there's also been shit about ecofags wanting their lawns mowed by goats but that might be something different.

The goat-eater immigration is what supported two dollars a pound.

Almost five dollars a pound has far more to do with a dearth of Aussie imports due to supply chain collapse. This is a 2020 and later phenomenon.

For clarity, two dollars a pound on the hoof doesn't translate to 2$ a lb in the supermarket. You'd be doing well to get 40 percent meat off a goat kid, and that's still not accounting for the expense of slaughter, packing, and transport, all of which cost especially more in currentyear.

You wouldn't believe how many people tell me "oh you should use your goats to mow lawns! I read an article! What is biosecurity? What are rustlers? There are poisonous plants???"

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Not well. One of the Qing princes ended up pissing of a coalition of European powers during the Second Opium War so much that, in order to get revenge, they went to the Summer Palace and tore the entire thing to pieces and burnt all the gardens. This really was a tragedy because the palace was considered the height of architectural and landscape design for that era, and had a very interesting wing that was based on Western architecture, designed by the Jesuit artist Lang Shining. This palace was almost five times as large as the Forbidden City and it took thousands of troops days to destroy the whole thing.

I can't really say that the West's impulses have worked well for us either. Our obsession with 'civilizing' other people has lead us to squander blood and treasure in countless stupid wars in shithole countries while our empires collapsed around us. I think that the Chinese getting their shit pushed in was an artifact of geopolitics and not due to an essential flaw within their system. Just look at Afghanistan and you can see that the Chinese approach is much more sane than ours: make deals with the stone age goatherders, slurp up their valuable mineral deposits, and use your influence with them to fuck with anyone else who threatens your interests. There's zero sense of 'yellow man's burden' involved, just cold, hard self-interest.

It's also true that the one thing which could have brought the Chinese up to speed and made them a civilizational threat to the West again was technological parity, and Western corporations handed them our IP on a silver platter in pursuit of the almighty dollar. China was set to remain closed off from the world; we insisted on opening them up in part because we held a belief just as delusional as those of the late Qing: that just by trading with us China would magically liberalize and become like the West, because our way of life was destined to win out and had some irresistible historical force behind it. Completely delusional idea, yet it's still very influential in the West.

Kudos for making a serious answer to a meme question. I think history will tell about how civilization is going right now, just about every major country is in deep shit for multiple reasons and the Chinese, besides also having a demographic apocalypse even worse than everyone else, won't see a lot of benefit from establishing a culture of stealing over developing.

The interesting thing is that the USA and China show the two sides of the coin of extreme isolationism:
The USA went too much globohomo and is now absolutely fucked by foreign interest and reliance on foreign players.
China is hated by just about everyone, tries to do everything by itself and has a metric fuckton of corruption, pollution and shitty quality of life.

 

[Garm]

Have extension ladders been notes on the list? Apparently big box store could not get certain extension ladders.

 

[Sped Xing]

Have extension ladders been notes on the list? Apparently big box store could not get certain extension ladders.

Just duct tape two smaller ladders together. It's like nobody thinks outside the box anymore.

 

[Garm]

Just duct tape two smaller ladders together. It's like nobody thinks outside the box anymore.

That's a twenty foot drop I would rather not tempt.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Weird thing missing at the store: Pledge cleaner... except in citrus. I know it's pretty First World Problem to complain about my kitchen smelling likes fresh oranges rather than fresh spring rain, but... it's just odd.

 

[DavidS877]

Weird thing missing at the store: Pledge cleaner... except in citrus. I know it's pretty First World Problem to complain about my kitchen smelling likes fresh oranges rather than fresh spring rain, but... it's just odd.

I found a similar issue finding Formula 409 not in citrus as well. I like my cleaners to smell like cleaners, not cleaners and lemons.

 

[Sped Xing]

That's a twenty foot drop I would rather not tempt.

Today is a good day to die.

 

[Mukhrani]

Been noticing a really big uptick in seasonal/local produce at my grocery store, probably to fill supply gaps of other stuff which tends to be out at a higher rate (scallions, shallots, and corn are all shortages that I ran into this month that had me making two trips). If that sort of farming gets rewarded that's at least one silver lining to this supply crisis, because our food supply logistics are truly retarded. I'm harvesting bowls full of strawberries every other day in June from a small patch and they're shipping them in from California to sell in the grocery stores.

 

[feral cat #6385]

That's a twenty foot drop I would rather not tempt.

Why do you feel you have anything worth living for?

Weird thing missing at the store: Pledge cleaner... except in citrus. I know it's pretty First World Problem to complain about my kitchen smelling likes fresh oranges rather than fresh spring rain, but... it's just odd.

More people prefer their kitchen to smell like cleaning chemicals rather than oranges. Solved the mystery for you Columbo.

 

[Nique la mere de Macron]

The goat-eater immigration is what supported two dollars a pound.

Almost five dollars a pound has far more to do with a dearth of Aussie imports due to supply chain collapse. This is a 2020 and later phenomenon.

For clarity, two dollars a pound on the hoof doesn't translate to 2$ a lb in the supermarket. You'd be doing well to get 40 percent meat off a goat kid, and that's still not accounting for the expense of slaughter, packing, and transport, all of which cost especially more in currentyear.

You wouldn't believe how many people tell me "oh you should use your goats to mow lawns! I read an article! What is biosecurity? What are rustlers? There are poisonous plants???"

I have terrain-clearing goats and so far, their stomachs seem to be made of cast iron.

Spoiler: Purchasing the goats

I did kind of LOL when we were calling around to buy said goats and every time it was my (jack Muslim) boyfriend on the phone instead of me, there was an interrogation about whether or not the real purpose was to eat them. It was not.

 

[Sped Xing]

I have terrain-clearing goats and so far, their stomachs seem to be made of cast iron.

Spoiler: Purchasing the goats

I did kind of LOL when we were calling around to buy said goats and every time it was my (jack Muslim) boyfriend on the phone instead of me, there was an interrogation about whether or not the real purpose was to eat them. It was not.

It's all fun and games until you get Johne's on your pastures because you sent your animals to some place that had it. Or dewormer-immune barberpole worms. Or liver flukes. Or they're riddled with Caseous lymphadenitis. Or you send them out to graze kleingrass and they keel over from swellhead before you can say "cast iron."

Next you'll tell me CAE is nothing to be concerned about.


EDIT: That came off spergier than I intended. I'm not saying goat-mowing isn't a viable business. I'm saying no seedstock producer who likes to make money is going to use his 800 dollar does to eat someone's hedges down. Buying random auction goats that are only intended to be used as lawnmowers is a horse of a different color.

I have had people ask me if I care if they eat the goats I sell. How is it any of my business what you do with your property? I don't sell my pets.

 

[Garm]

Today is a good day to die.

I would prefer my death have more meaning than "how full is the grain bin?"

 

[Sped Xing]

I would prefer my death have more meaning than "how full is the grain bin?"

The goats told me that greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his life for our supper.

 

[Male Idiot]

Propably uncennected:

There maybe a meat price hike in Hungary, but due to disease outbreaks.

Schlomo don't coof on porko!

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I'll bring an update from Jewland. So far the crisis isn't noticeable and my guess it's mainly due to Israeli NIS being rock solid as far as currency goes (in addition of the government investing a lot in the agricultural sector due to security concerns), I think the following chart summarises it quite well:

And I'd wager the dollar will dip below 3NIS in the following months. Problem is that Israel primarily exports technology and agriculture so the low dollar can fuck up our economy hard.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Just duct tape two smaller ladders together. It's like nobody thinks outside the box anymore.

I don't think this is a safe idea!

 

[Free the Pedos]

I'll bring an update from Jewland. So far the crisis isn't noticeable and my guess it's mainly due to Israeli NIS being rock solid as far as currency goes (in addition of the government investing a lot in the agricultural sector due to security concerns), I think the following chart summarises it quite well:
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And I'd wager the dollar will dip below 3NIS in the following months. Problem is that Israel primarily exports technology and agriculture so the low dollar can fuck up our economy hard.

But can you still get Kariot?

 

[FatalTater]

Here in the American Midwest I can't find gluten free stuffing.

Thanksgiving is on Thursday! My whole entire existance will have been for nothing if I can't have this one meal on this one day be perfect!!!

...oh wait I don't care.

I like having stuffing on Thanksgiving but I'm not going online to only be able to find one brand that I've never tried before that costs $15 a box, especially since I'm the only one that needs gluten free stuff anyway. Aldi was out, Kroger was out... I'll just make seasoned rice instead.