Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

[WonderWino]

If he gets acquitted, the bail money goes back to him. That's what, $2 million? He invests properly he can get a leg up on financial stability even if radioactive.

.....until the armless wonder and the families of the others that got shot go after him in civil court and take it all. If the criminal case doesn't fuck him with a conviction the inevitable civil cases will financially

 

[Weapon of Durgasoft]

Yes, she can now sue the city and Kyle both.

She has zero interest in Huber's estate. She wouldn't have a case.. All she can do is grift GoFundMe donations. Which she already did.

 

[namelesstacotruck]

Though if an appeal is successful in that case i doubt they would do that. And the state would appeal the appeals court. So it would then be up to the Wisconsin supreme court at that point.

 

[namelesstacotruck]

please god no

Often times at that point they just drop it sense the evidence might be lost and good luck getting witnesses again.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Kyle should use his taco name and return to the land of 1/2 of his ancestors, Mexicans will write and sing corridas about the "El niño que rendio la justicia en Kenosha cuando los gringos estaba haciendo el gay". He will be a hero there.

 

[BrokenLightbulbs]

I'm gonna try to be a little charitable to Grandpa Judge. I think he genuinely believes that juries should handle it, not because he's afraid, but because that's how his sense of justice operates. Be tried and judged by a jury of your peers. He feels that by throwing out the case himself, he'd be taking away from that. He might feel that he has no moral right to do so, even if he has the legal right.

Based on things he's said about juries being smart, I think he has genuine (if misplaced) faith in the jury to come to the right decision. And if this wasn't a highly public trial, I'd probably agree with him. But the dude is what, 75? He just plain doesn't know how to handle a trial in the face of the unholy alliance between social media and the lugenpresse.

I'm close with many his age, some in positions of power and otherwise. By and large a lot of them have some idea of, but absolutely fail to truly grasp what the media has become, that it is as dirty and corrupt as the most virile dictatorship. People his age, have, despite their years of seniority, a little bit of naivety of things in general. Remember, he is a judge, and not some downtrodden blackpilled nobody.

 

[No bueno]

I'd imagine they might not, but to be a bit off topic for a second that's more an indication of college and what it's become.

At the moment about 42% of Americans have a college degree of some kind, and the current college loan debt sits at 1.73 trillion. With a T. Because very little of that is getting paid off, because universities have become ridiculous useless fucking shams where young people go to stave off growing up for a few years and the degree you get is often barely worth the paper it's printed on; like so many stagnant institutions they've increasingly become nothing more than useless parasites who make money from their ingrained status as social gatekeepers rather than by their actual value to the productivity or growth of anyone or anything.

So I'm sure they wouldn't accept him. I mean, hell, given the quality of the nurses and nurse practitioners being produced these days (there's even a thread in community watch about nurse practitioners, they're such jokes. I invite you to give it a read), not being a clueless retard who folds the second they're put under pressure would probably make him a very poor fit.

I can't recommend trade school enough to any zoomer, Kyle included. Go take a 10 month welding or machining program for like 10k and you can be pulling in 70k+ a year in under 2 years. Also it's nice not having to work with soy boy consoomers and other crazy lefties, most welders can still call their co-workers faggots.

 

[Orange Man Costume]

So the "#54 rogue Karen/Foreman" theory seems to be getting more and more traction online, spreading out from twitter and into law blogs and so on.

If it's true, I wonder what happens when that Karen finds out that she's basically been singled out down to her juror number, while shes online tonight googling up strategies or alternate definitions. Does she chicken out? Does she go harder in a bid to get famous for "fortifying" the trial?

I don't know if this already came up because I had to skip chunks of pages about the civil war just to get caught up.

 

[DumbDude42]

So the "#54 rogue Karen/Foreman" theory seems to be getting more and more traction online, spreading out from twitter and into law blogs and so on.

If it's true, I wonder what happens when that Karen finds out that she's basically been singled out down to her juror number, while shes online tonight googling up strategies or alternate definitions. Does she chicken out? Does she go harder in a bid to get famous for "fortifying" the trial?

I don't know if this already came up because I had to skip chunks of pages about the civil war just to get caught up.

hard to tell how a person would react to this

either way this is also a good argument for why juries should be locked away and isolated from the outside world as much as possible

 

[NSJAP]

I want to remind you that who you have to really hate here is Kyle's lawyers. They had 2 days of brainstorm to saw that a white blob of pixels is not Kyle's support hand and point it out on the closing statement to the jurors.

 

[topsikrets]

So the "#54 rogue Karen/Foreman" theory seems to be getting more and more traction online, spreading out from twitter and into law blogs and so on.

If it's true, I wonder what happens when that Karen finds out that she's basically been singled out down to her juror number, while shes online tonight googling up strategies or alternate definitions. Does she chicken out? Does she go harder in a bid to get famous for "fortifying" the trial?

I don't know if this already came up because I had to skip chunks of pages about the civil war just to get caught up.

fingers crossed she blows her own brains out.

 

[With My Dick]

The least grave charge that's still on the table is reckless endangerment, which with a gun modifier is something like 10-15 years. So it will still absolutely ruin Kyle's life.

I'm going to disagree slightly here. I've seen nothing from Kyle to convince me that he'd do any better than sergeant at the local podunk precinct. That's his ceiling. Third shift manager at a tool-and-die shop maybe. Definitely better money than permanent apprentice in the IBEW, but he's not going to be going out there and setting the world on fire.

His future without all this happening is $60K/year with a decent pension. His future with it happening is somewhere between "life behind bars", "4 years with good behavior" and "millions in libel suit settlements". I'm not sure I wouldn't prefer the $60K/year, but from that perspective, spending the rest of your life in court prosecuting civil cases and stacking bills doesn't seem terrible either.

 

[HumanHive]

you fuckin with me? isn't the entire point of appeals to have a different court look at the case to correct potential mistakes that the initial court might have made?

It's only an issue if the problem was with the judge. And since we get to go through evidentiary hearings all over again - this time with no surprises - stuff might be thrown out or the defense might tear into the prosecution's reasoning more directly. We can get right down to this whole notion of "provocation" and ignore the bullshit about him illegally crossing state lines or whether or not he was allowed to have the gun.

 

[WeDon'tNeedToWhisper]

I saw a source that said he is currently studying nursing in Arizona. I'm not sure how that would work because you have to get a full background check to apply for nursing school, and pending murder charges will not look good. And imagine trying to participate in class or with patients at your clinicals when the entire country knows who you are and half of it thinks you're a mass shooting Nazi.

Got this from a local AZ news website

Kyle Rittenhouse has not gone through the admissions process with Arizona State University and is not enrolled in the Edson College of Nursing and Health Innovation," the university said. "ASU can confirm that Mr. Rittenhouse enrolled as a non-degree seeking ASU Online student for the session that started Oct. 13, 2021, which allows students access to begin taking classes as they prepare to seek admission into a degree program at the university.

I remember Binger wanted prove what a terrible lying liar face Kyle was by claiming that Kyle didn't go to ASU and Richards shouted "you can pull up his student page".
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Whatever. I'm so burnt out on this fucking trial, actually just the past 4 days.
I watched a Viva Frei video about the note from the juror. I had seen the tweet that pointed out that she used the same language as the prosecution when referring to the fire extinguisher. But in the video he pointed something else out that I didn't realize and pretty much confirms that the foreman, juror 54 is a huge cunt.

She starts off the note with 'Please prepare (video of pedo)' Not, 'Could you please' or 'Can we please have'. And ends the note with 'We will request when ready' This bitch obviously thinks very highly of herself and is drunk on power. I think during juror selection she just said what she thought everyone wanted to hear with every intention of going rogue. You can nominate yourself to be foreman, right? Yeah, she took that title quickly.

For a female, her handwriting is atrocious. She probably doesn't write actual words on paper very often - if at all. Looking at that note I see GED with no further education.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Yeah, France got played like a damned fiddle. What also sucks is Bismarck didn't want to snatch up Alsace and Lorraine, but public pressure in Germany after such a decisive victory forced him to make those demands.

Yeah, its real easy to march on a city when you've already sacked the countryside of supplies and need to retreat with what you have or risk total annihilation in the face of a foe with both manpower and materiel superiority. Oh wait... Once again, you display your ignorance of the actual situation. An army with supplies, a reduced baggage train thanks to railroad supply lines, and wounded who can be safely bivouacked away in rear areas can march a lot faster than one with limited supplies, wounded that need to be carefully moved to prevent further injury, and a long baggage trail that needs protection against Union cavalry raids. And raid they could given that the Confederate cavalry had shared in the beating, the Northern mounted forces finally proving themselves an equal.

>Baggage train
>Supplying by raiding
I've come to the conclusion that there are certain people in this world that are entirely incapable of thinking in terms of unconventional warfare. That aside, your argument is ludicrous. You're essentially arguing that an army that according to you would be unable to even attack a soft target that provides a real and tangible strategic benefit would instead have been better served by getting into a stand-up fight with a superior force. All in an unplanned engagement where the enemy has arrived at the battlefield first, which in general is the kind of engagement you're normally best simply retreating from even when at an advantage. All of this is of course ignoring the fact that we know for an absolute fact that what you're arguing for simply didn't work.

They did exploit the same opening I described though, they counterattacked and forced Hannibal to return. It did take a great deal of fanaticism for the war among the populace to pull that off though.

It wasn't quite as straightforward as Rome just flipping the table around like that. A North African kingdom allied with Rome and forced Carthage to order a withdraw, which I wonder if Hannibal didn't object to this, and if so, if he wouldn't have been better off refusing the orders.

 

[Mike Stoklasas Spock Ears]

Something just occurred to me. After seeing the prosecution’s behavior in this trial, I no longer believe in the death penalty.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I'm going to disagree slightly here. I've seen nothing from Kyle to convince me that he'd do any better than sergeant at the local podunk precinct. That's his ceiling. Third shift manager at a tool-and-die shop maybe. Definitely better money than permanent apprentice in the IBEW, but he's not going to be going out there and setting the world on fire.

His future without all this happening is $60K/year with a decent pension. His future with it happening is somewhere between "life behind bars", "4 years with good behavior" and "millions in libel suit settlements". I'm not sure I wouldn't prefer the $60K/year, but from that perspective, spending the rest of your life in court prosecuting civil cases and stacking bills doesn't seem terrible either.

He's barely 18, where do you get his ceiling is sergeant at the local PD? Everyone here was a sperg at 18, myself included. You can never tell what someone will do in the future, our underage taco singlehandedly shut down a rioting in this country by taking out the scum of of society, that's a pretty great segue into adulthood. None of here have accomplished so much in such short time.

 

[Sprite drinker]

*BLM supporter in hospital after being shot by police*
"Nurse Rittenhouse will be right in to redress that wound"

 

[Trianon]

The defense is probably understandably nervous and thinking it's 6-6 at worst. Any body language they observed could just be different personalities. It doesn't mean much other than an impression they have. We know they're jumpy because Richards said Kyle was taking it all better than he was. because Kyle still has trust and hope

Something just occurred to me. After seeing the prosecution’s behavior in this trial, I no longer believe in the death penalty.

Yeah, I'm not opposed to the death penalty, but the chances of getting it wrong are a big weight.

But another problem now is prosecutors and parole boards just arbitrarily deciding to let everyone go because proving stuff is hard.

 

[benutz]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1461462959339749380

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1461434160908746763

HE CROSSED STATE LINES!

Obviously feels empathy with our boy Grosskreutz - he's even rocking the same holes in his ears. I wonder on who he was planning on stabbing and getting away by hiding behind women? So much hate so little time.

It's the Muppet Show in meat space.