11/18/2021 - Court case continued into the new year

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Shidoen said:
It’s poetic, he supposedly fucked his mom so the state the will supposedly cuck him.
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its funny, the state went easy on Chris because he was a autistic manchild.
i bet some of those cops and the judge are wondering, maybe if they threw him in the slammer for a few months, he'd of cut this shit out a long time ago?
this is a crime so horrible, tardness sympathy would only get you so far.
he might get a 10 year sentence instead of a 20 year sentence. if a rape charge is added
eventually at some point, maybe when idiots stop filling his comesary and he's mostly forgotten, he'll start to feel the weight of his actions.
 
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Michael Janke said:
its funny, the state went easy on Chris because he was a autistic manchild.
i bet some of those cops and the judge are wondering, maybe if they threw him in the slammer for a few months, he'd of cut this shit out a long time ago?
this is a crime so horrible, tardness sympathy would only get you so far.
he might get a 10 year sentence instead of a 20 year sentence. if a rape charge is added
eventually at some point, maybe when idiots stop filling his comesary and he's mostly forgotten, he'll start to feel the weight of his actions.
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I think if the whole 'he tried to run people over' thing had never been dismissed essentially <Admittedly, Synder was forgiving> it could have maybe been a wake up call.

Honestly though, Barb had groomed him even by that point it was a vast conspiracy against him. I'm sure actual Christorians can timeline how bad it was by when, but didn't Barb and Bob believe the entire county was involved in an actual conspiracy? I don't know if any amount of time serve will ultimately break that belief. It's a fundamental part of Chris' thought process and belief systems, and frankly.. Autism has nothing to do with that. It's manipulation and deranged parenting that encouraged it.

Also I can't see them giving Chris that long of a sentence, it would be great from a justice stand point, because he deserves it, but I bet even if convicted with prison time; he'd get a reduced sentence. Honestly, he'll probably get good behavior even. Chris is content to sit in a cell and day dream. He inherently won't try to pick fights; they'll happen because he can't pick up on social cues etc etc.
 
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Guardsman42 said:
but I bet even if convicted with prison time; he'd get a reduced sentence.
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10 years for one charge of felony rape and incest is the reduced sentence.
most people get something close to a life sentence when charged with rape.
im pretty sure thats the absolute minimum they could give him with sentencing guidelines.
how would a plea deal even go for something like this?
they'd charge him to a lesser sentence of misdemeanor incest and sexual assault or something?
even with that, he'd go away for a few years.
 
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Michael Janke said:
10 years for one charge of felony rape and incest is the reduced sentence.
most people get something close to a life sentence when charged with rape.
im pretty sure thats the absolute minimum they could give him with sentencing guidelines.
how would a plea deal even go for something like this?
they'd charge him to a lesser sentence of misdemeanor incest and sexual assault or something?
even with that, he'd go away for a few years.
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They might nail him more for partial time in prison, but also mandatory in a mental health facility. This has been done before. Split the time between the two or the like.

Though I could be wrong; a person who knows more about modern policies would need to verify that. I just know it has been a thing in the past.

I mean America being America seeing the charges dropped is still a distinct possibility, but I would assume by now they would have done so if that was the case just to avoid the media attention in any way. Then again, realistically, Chris is not all that high profile in terms of media exposure. He has an internet following, but he isn't all that known outside of it on the levels OJ or Kyle was. Nor is his crime as severe. It's sadly, a mundane crime in the grand scheme for the legal system. I imagine there is dozens of these situations yearly in that county alone. <Not necessarily with the Elderly involved, but you get what I mean>
 
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They might nail him more for partial time in prison, but also mandatory in a mental health facility. This has been done before. Split the time between the two or the like.

Though I could be wrong; a person who knows more about modern policies would need to verify that. I just know it has been a thing in the past.

I mean America being America seeing the charges dropped is still a distinct possibility, but I would assume by now they would have done so if that was the case just to avoid the media attention in any way. Then again, realistically, Chris is not all that high profile in terms of media exposure. He has an internet following, but he isn't all that known outside of it on the levels OJ or Kyle was. Nor is his crime as severe. It's sadly, a mundane crime in the grand scheme for the legal system. I imagine there is dozens of these situations yearly in that county alone. <Not necessarily with the Elderly involved, but you get what I mean>
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I think Chris's lawyer is probably trying to lean hard on the tard angle. Since he's scheduling medical evaluations for him and things like that.
it might work, who's to say what will happen?
though the tard angle is probably a lot harder to work with when the charge is incest and rape
if it was battery or some kind of public spergout related crime. it probably would have worked a lot better
i dont think this is the last of chris's continuances.
he'll probably have at least 1 more so chris's lawyer can come up with a pre trial strategy or come up with enough information from his medical evaluation to negotiate a good plea strategy
the main problem is Chris himself. would he be willing to accept a plea deal, or would he insist he's done nothing wrong and try to take it to trial?
 
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Michael Janke said:
I think Chris's lawyer is probably trying to lean hard on the tard angle. Since he's scheduling medical evaluations for him and things like that.
it might work, who's to say what will happen?
though the tard angle is probably a lot harder to work with when the charge is incest and rape
if it was battery or some kind of public spergout related crime. it probably would have worked a lot better
i dont think this is the last of chris's continuances.
he'll probably have at least 1 more so chris's lawyer can come up with a pre trial strategy or come up with enough information from his medical evaluation to negotiate a good plea strategy
the main problem is Chris himself. would he be willing to accept a plea deal, or would he insist he's done nothing wrong and try to take it to trial?
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I think it depends on the bargain, if it’s just minor inconveniences like having to see a therapist or attend some course for sex offenders (Basically a slap on the wrist) I think he might but not if it’s anything that will impact his life in a meaningful way like not being able to live with Barb anymore or being put on the sex offender register.
 
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Pickle Inspector said:
I think it depends on the bargain, if it’s just minor inconveniences like having to see a therapist or attend some course for sex offenders (Basically a slap on the wrist) I think he might but not if it’s anything that will impact his life in a meaningful way like not being able to live with Barb anymore or being put on the sex offender register.
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maybe his lawyer is trying to classify Chris as mentally unfit to make decisions for himself.
so Chris has to do whatever his lawyer advises whether he wants those decisions or not
remember how Britney spears father had her under a conservatorship
maybe thats the strategy?
 
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Pointless Sperg said:
The phone call was the probable cause to investigate. They then interviewed and did a medical check on Barb, which may have provided more evidence. Note that they did not arrest Chris immediately. (Though I suspect part of the reason for Chris' arrest was because he was no longer staying at the place he had agreed to stay at, since he was told he was no longer welcome. The authorities don't like it when you aren't staying where you said you were. )
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Remember Chris was arrested because he violated the Emergency Protective Order against Barb.

Consolvo HAS seen Chris' letters from jail so it's up to Consolvo to choose to press further charges for violating the EPO with Chris' letter to Kenzie.
 
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Ya know, thinking back I should have made that Saga Stone about Chris Chan.
 
Pointless Sperg said:
I'm not talking about at trial, there isn't going to be a trial. I'm talking about negotiating with the prosecution for a less harsh sentence and more of a focus on social services upon release. (Or, in the extremely unlikely event that there is a trial, as you say, during sentencing).
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I wonder if that kind of argument would get very far if the prosecution sees it as the sexual assault of an incompetent elder. Imagine trolling being used to mitigate rape... I don't think the prosecution would be moved by that.

I'm thinking that putting Chris on the sex offender's registry is a given. Which means the prosecution is going to require a guilty plea to some sort of sex crime. If rape comes out to ten years minimum, I'm just guessing that sexual assault would be two. If they count the time spent since his arrest and knock off some for good behavior, that might mean only 6 months. He could spend that in jail and not have to be sent to prison.
 
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Michael Janke said:
I think Chris's lawyer is probably trying to lean hard on the tard angle. Since he's scheduling medical evaluations for him and things like that.
it might work, who's to say what will happen?
though the tard angle is probably a lot harder to work with when the charge is incest and rape
if it was battery or some kind of public spergout related crime. it probably would have worked a lot better
i dont think this is the last of chris's continuances.
he'll probably have at least 1 more so chris's lawyer can come up with a pre trial strategy or come up with enough information from his medical evaluation to negotiate a good plea strategy
the main problem is Chris himself. would he be willing to accept a plea deal, or would he insist he's done nothing wrong and try to take it to trial?
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Chris won't accept any plea deal, even if it's the best deal in the world that would ultimately benefit him. To Chris, taking a plea deal is an admission of guilt. Chris has no remorse for what he's done, no comprehension of the crimes committed; Chris feels that everything he did was right and justified.
 
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Governor Rocknar said:
Chris won't accept any plea deal, even if it's the best deal in the world that would ultimately benefit him. To Chris, taking a plea deal is an admission of guilt. Chris has no remorse for what he's done, no comprehension of the crimes committed; Chris feels that everything he did was right and justified.
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He seems to be taking to Jail quite well too so he hasn't got the incentive most people have and that's getting out of incarceration as fast as they can to get back to there real life, if anything other than possibly missing his toys he's not shown much distress at the situation.

On one hand I'm glad he's away from Barb and His stuff for the first time in decades but he honestly seems to be enjoying it, or at least not outright hating it enough to give it more than a passing mention in his letters we have seen so far but I am guessing that is a result of him being in Isolation or Protective Custody and if he was in the jail or prison system proper I can see that changing.
 
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Jack LOLson said:
And to think, this is all she has left to remember her son on the tree this year.
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Edit: That and the memories of him raping her, if she can remember of course.
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You know...that would actually be cute, until you put it in the context of what Chris has become in the future. This makes it even more depressing.
 
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