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I've posted this anecdote before, but to quote my classmate with DS who was extremely frustrated at being treated like she was exceptional: "I'm not retarded, I have Down syndrome, asshole."
I have heard people say that you should always presume that those with disabilities understand more than you think they do. Speak to them just as you would anyone else their age. If there's a problem with comprehension, you'll figure it out pretty quickly and adjust. I can't imagine how terrible it feels to be spoken to like you're a baby all the time.
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once,I got put in the sped class in middleschool. Now I went to a fucking terrible middleschool. I, like many farmers, have the tism. Despite being a bit socially inept, I'm pretty ok. The kids in this class were at kindergarten levels, some weren't even there. And yea. I got baby talked so much, and I wanted and still want to beat the shit out of the principal. Bastard had the nerve, after ripping me from normal classes and saw I was doing well to say, "I'm so proud of you. Do you know what that means? " I may be tard, but not to that level you bow tie wearing manlet
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"I think you're a simpering twat. Do you know what that means?"
(I'm sorry that happened to you. It's terrible.
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I was in hospital frequently as a young child, but I always kept up with my assignments while there. When I was in again near the end of grade 5, I was far ahead enough that my teachers didn't bother assigning me half the classwork. I never thought about it again over the summer break but, for grade 6, I moved up to the middle school where it turned out that class placements were based on which texts a student last completed in various subjects. I hadn't finished the expected textbooks so I was placed in a classroom for children with learning difficulties. We were segregated away from the others with our special instructor for all subjects, even art and PE, rarely crossing paths with the 'normal' students. We didn't even have the same lunch breaks - just us, alone in the cafeteria.
My classmates all had varying degrees of mental issues, learning disabilities and/or special needs. Some were disruptive, some had behavioural problems, and would pick fights in the classroom, while others were just trying their best to learn under difficult circumstances. We were all expected to function at a low level though it was clear several of us were at minimum intellectually average.
I was heartbroken watching all my friends get to have the normal middle school experience together while I was in the sped class. I begged my parents to do something, anything, to get me back into the regular program but they insisted I must have been placed where I was for a good reason. So I got to stay in the special classroom for the entire year. And you know what? I actually grew to like a lot of my fellow speds. Even kids can figure out that once you get to know someone on their level and have age-appropriate conversations a lot of what seem like scary disabilities are nothing more than one part of who a person is. Plus, we were all trapped together in sped teacher hell, so we had that in common.
Luckily, the next year I changed school districts. Based on testing, I was streamed back into the typical system. That year of sped learning was a nightmare, but it taught me a lot about human nature and how people, especially teachers, react to children they assume are 'slow'.
My classmates all had varying degrees of mental issues, learning disabilities and/or special needs. Some were disruptive, some had behavioural problems, and would pick fights in the classroom, while others were just trying their best to learn under difficult circumstances. We were all expected to function at a low level though it was clear several of us were at minimum intellectually average.
I was heartbroken watching all my friends get to have the normal middle school experience together while I was in the sped class. I begged my parents to do something, anything, to get me back into the regular program but they insisted I must have been placed where I was for a good reason. So I got to stay in the special classroom for the entire year. And you know what? I actually grew to like a lot of my fellow speds. Even kids can figure out that once you get to know someone on their level and have age-appropriate conversations a lot of what seem like scary disabilities are nothing more than one part of who a person is. Plus, we were all trapped together in sped teacher hell, so we had that in common.
Luckily, the next year I changed school districts. Based on testing, I was streamed back into the typical system. That year of sped learning was a nightmare, but it taught me a lot about human nature and how people, especially teachers, react to children they assume are 'slow'.
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People with Prader Willi are usually highly disagreeable and mean.
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Most of those people would peg as 'severe' autists have a wide range of impairments in like language and such, but their IQ doesn't absolutely tank cause of that (more like they have severe impairments in some areas and normal elsewhere, meaning some nonverbal kids can fake it really good). The proportion of those labelled 'severe' who aren't potato-range IQ is greater than the potatoe proportion. And they definitely ain't gonna appreciate baby talk.
If anything, baby talk would make it harder for them to understand cause the vast majority of spoken words we here arent baby talk. Sure they may struggle to pick together the sentence and may need simpler words and shorter sentences, but baby talk is fucking demeaning.
Basically, you've got nonverbal potatoes, nonverbals with normal enough IQs, and everywhere inbetween verbal or not, but people treat them like shit. I suspect a lot of kids/people have missed out learning AAC/communication skills because of shitty therapy and people not presuming competence. Sure, there's a few true potatoes, but in my experience they are few and far between.
(Actually, being verbal causes people to overestimate the ability of speds by a lot even if they are near potato levels of intellect).
If anything, baby talk would make it harder for them to understand cause the vast majority of spoken words we here arent baby talk. Sure they may struggle to pick together the sentence and may need simpler words and shorter sentences, but baby talk is fucking demeaning.
Basically, you've got nonverbal potatoes, nonverbals with normal enough IQs, and everywhere inbetween verbal or not, but people treat them like shit. I suspect a lot of kids/people have missed out learning AAC/communication skills because of shitty therapy and people not presuming competence. Sure, there's a few true potatoes, but in my experience they are few and far between.
(Actually, being verbal causes people to overestimate the ability of speds by a lot even if they are near potato levels of intellect).
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Think this is something a lot of people have a misconception about. Non-verbal does not mean non-vocal. I have worked with people who were extremely verbal, but nothing they said was conversational for lack of a better term.
Some examples of very verbal profoundaly affected students are:
Teen that verbatim gave you ever commerical and weather broadcast, but couldn't tell you when they had to use the bathroom.
Adult who would just happily babble non stop, but none of it was meaningful.
Adult who functioned at the level of a 5 year old, but had rote vocabulary of a 21 year old.
Then there are is the issue with mild delayed people wanting to please you so they will act as if they understand you when they do not. This happens quite often in Down Syndrome. Expressive and Receptive language in people can be highly different.
My old co-worker had a son who was profoundly mentally handicapped, and while he didn't speak, he could definitely communicate in other ways, be they positive or negative. Just a few days ago, she posted some pictures on Facebook of her and her husband taking him mule-riding, which is one of his favorite activities, and theirs too.
Williams Syndrome is one condition that stunts intellect, but as they were described in a "60 Minutes" piece about them, they have the social skills of talk show hosts. It's called "cocktail party speech" and can fool people into thinking they are more capable of looking after themselves than they really are.
Williams Syndrome is one condition that stunts intellect, but as they were described in a "60 Minutes" piece about them, they have the social skills of talk show hosts. It's called "cocktail party speech" and can fool people into thinking they are more capable of looking after themselves than they really are.
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Yes! Couldn't think of how to explain it that is very common in people with mild delays. It can be very hard for people to understand why they have guardians and what not as adults.
The same thing is true for people who have had a traumatic brain injury, or mild dementia.
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What people don't realize with the baby talking is; tone is exaggerated or not there. So in children who already may have issues reading tone and in this critical period where you learn social cues. You are fucking up kids who should have a shot, really early on.
People are touchy about baby talking to kids, why would you do it to a disabled child. Then to a disabled person.
People are touchy about baby talking to kids, why would you do it to a disabled child. Then to a disabled person.
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A relative still recounts the story of his "retarded" aunt, who was treated by the family like she was just barely this side of a potato. Then one time at a family Christmas, he realized that he could basically understand everything she said, and that she was actually very funny, cracking little witty jokes no one else understood. It was years before he realized, she'd never been retarded at all. She had a cleft lip (they called it a harelip back then). They thought her speech made her stupid. She was kept home her whole life and barely educated in the schools at all, never dated, never held a job. All because of something that if a baby is born with it in the US today, there are funds to just fix that shit ASAP so they develop language on schedule. Imagine all the human potential over time wasted because of little developmental accidents that people believed meant a lack of intelligence.
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Holy fuck you just made something click about a relative who can chat away very engagingly but is routinely stumped by simple household tasks and does remarkably stupid things that don't match to the level of verbal ability. I suspect mild vascular dementia but she won't admit to it.
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Harbour Kirchner has gone to the great potato patch in the sky:
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Recalled another one of verbal retards getting away with people thinking they're normal. Nuclear family with two sons. Both boys verbal and in mainstream, but both had aids. School was rural piece of shit so never realized or assessed for any disability. Both were functioning years below their age, but oh, boys will be boys :/
The mother was also impaired. Likely autism in all 3, but also verbal and never diagnosed. Only not sped was the man providing for the house. I used them as an example how so much shit never got diagnosed back in the day.
Edit: oh yeah, and the other case of 'my mom drank through my entire pregnancy and I wasnt able to finish highschool 40 years ago' and its like bruh, you have FAS/D (whichever is the less severe one, cause this person holds down jobs just fine)
Edit edit: and speaking of wasted potential, this person was mourning that they couldn't have gone into some other field and like, had there been academic supports they could have.
The mother was also impaired. Likely autism in all 3, but also verbal and never diagnosed. Only not sped was the man providing for the house. I used them as an example how so much shit never got diagnosed back in the day.
Edit: oh yeah, and the other case of 'my mom drank through my entire pregnancy and I wasnt able to finish highschool 40 years ago' and its like bruh, you have FAS/D (whichever is the less severe one, cause this person holds down jobs just fine)
Edit edit: and speaking of wasted potential, this person was mourning that they couldn't have gone into some other field and like, had there been academic supports they could have.
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What the fuck is with people giving terrible names to children that will die young. Even if you decide to carry a child that has a terminal condition to term, the very least you can do is give them a pretty name.
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It's not uncommon for people to give their miscarriages or stillborns absolutely outrageous names that you wouldn't give a normal person like "horizon eclipse" or "Summer rain" (both of which I've heard of people doing.) It's a guilty pleasure name, something you'd never actually burden a living person with, but sounds nice on paper.
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So you were like Bart in that one Simpsons episode. "I moved here from Canada and they think I'm slow, eh?"
To be fair to that SBSK video, that girl is almost impossible to understand. But that dude is a creep so I'm on team girl.
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Yes. I'm Bart