US Denver State Board Drops ‘Sex Offender’ Term Calling It A Negative Label - The board that sets state standards voted today to change the term “sex offenders” to reflect so-called “person-first” language.

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The way sex offenders are labeled is changing in Colorado. The board that sets state standards voted today to change the term “sex offenders” to reflect so-called “person-first” language.

The Sex Offender Management Board, which is made up of everyone from public defenders to prosecutors, sets standards and guidelines for treatment providers so the new terminology will only be used in that context. It doesn’t change the term sex offender in law or the criminal justice system but some worry it’s a step in that direction.

“I’m involved today after hearing that it would be improper or offensive in some manner for me to refer to the man who raped me, as a sex offender.”

A rape survivor, Kimberly Corbin is among those who spoke out against changing the term sex offender to something less stigmatizing, saying labels based on traits people can’t control is one thing, “It’s very, very damaging for those who people who are labeled when it has to do with gender, race, sexuality, ability, but those are not their choices, the biggest thing for me is these are choices that sex offenders make.”

Derek Logue says he shouldn’t have to carry the label for life, “Referring to me by a label for something I did half my life ago is inappropriate and downright offensive.”

He argued “client” would be a better term.

Public Defender Kathy Heffron agreed, “It takes into consideration the uniqueness of individuals who are receiving treatment.”

“Client” is one of five options the board considered.

Supports of the change in terminology argue it will reduce recidivism. Opponents say it will only reduce accountability, noting victims and survivors live with their label for life.

In the end, the board voted 10-6 to go with “adults who commit sexual offenses.”

“I think this strikes a balance that honors the impact to victims and recognizes the current and ongoing impacts of sexual assault but also avoids the labeling term that has negative impacts on those who commit sex offenses.”

Jessica Dotter with the Colorado District Attorneys’ Council worries the change won’t end with the Sex Offender Management Board, “I’m concerned that the use of person-first language generally is an intent to remove accountability from offenders and to diminish the experience of the victims”

Last year, lawmakers considered a bill that would have, among other things, eliminated the term “sexually violent predator” from statutes but they ended up pulling it. Meanwhile, a task force charged with sentencing reform is considering asking the legislature to change terms like “defendant,” “convict,” and “felon” to “justice-involved people.”

Ironically, the Sex Offender Management Board will not drop “sex offender” from its name because only the state Legislature can change the name of the board.


 
I think some ostensibly intelligent people actually have an issue where they can't distinguish the map (no pun intended) from the territory. If you change the name of something, they seem to think the function will follow. I think they genuinely don't believe in individual agency because they themselves orient their behaviour so much by the society around them. Therefore the sexual offender isn't like that through choice but have been made that way by a society around them and relabelling them will change their relationship to society and thus who they are. That seems to be how they think.

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If you believe that a man can change into a woman by simple declaration, it makes sense that you think a rapist can change by simply no longer calling him a rapist.

It is a form of magical thinking that is actually worse than the most devout, speaking in tongues, snake handling, flat earther fundie. They believe they can use words and change reality a la Harry Potter. It is delusion on a grand scale.

I like to think of the Shakespeare quote:

“What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet.”​


It doesn't matter what you call you them -- they are rapists. Just like how we used to call the mentally disabled "re.tards" but the word became a negative label, so we switched to "exceptional individuals" and now that is a negative label. You've made yourself feel good for about 5 minutes because you "defeated" the bad word, forgetting that language adapts -- and rapidly in the digital age -- to morph the "good" word into the "bad" one.

Race terms are like this as well. "Nigger" became "negro" then "colored", then "black", then "African American", then "person of color". None of those label changes resulted in less racism or improved conditions for black people. Language does not alter reality -- it describes it. That is its only function.

This is worse than useless because they wasted valuable time they could have spent on figuring out ways to actually change a rapist and instead engaged in a circle jerk on a zoom call to brainstorm and discuss this crap. They should have to pay the city back for the manhours wasted on this.
 
Does it though? To me if a sex offender wants to reoffend they can just go to a school and kidnap a kid with ease. It seems more like gun laws where if a felon really wants a gun its stupidly easy to get one.
Most sex offenders don't have a felonious mindset, they're basically normal people except for wanting to fuck kids. They might molest somebody they have access to through their work or family or community position, but snatching up random kids into a candyvan isn't something they'd ever consider.

The same reason gun laws can't do shit about gangsters but they can cut depressed teenagers shooting up schools to basically zero.
 
>we shouldn't call them pedophiles, we should call them minor attracted people
>we shouldn't call them sex offenders, we should call them adults who have committed sex offenses

Oh yes please won't someone think of the rapists and child molesters. Wouldn't want to shame them or make them feel bad.
 
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Derek Logue was arrested for molesting an 11 year old girl when he was 22. He served a little over 3 years in jail.
I think that carrying the label of child rapist is a very small punishment for what he did.

That's the stuff that tanks your activism- it's one thing to say "Hey maybe the term SEX OFFENDER isn't totally appropriate for like, idk, a guy who bought a crusty 46 year old hooker. We should be laughing at him not throwing him in jail" but this Derek fucker, on his own website says he was arrested for "kissing an underage girl" except the state of Alabama convicted him of Sexual Abuse in the 1st Degree, which requires a lot more than kissing a kid.
He's a child molester and he deserves to be called a sex offender.

Also, just look at him
 
That's the stuff that tanks your activism- it's one thing to say "Hey maybe the term SEX OFFENDER isn't totally appropriate for like, idk, a guy who bought a crusty 46 year old hooker. We should be laughing at him not throwing him in jail" but this Derek fucker, on his own website says he was arrested for "kissing an underage girl" except the state of Alabama convicted him of Sexual Abuse in the 1st Degree, which requires a lot more than kissing a kid.
He's a child molester and he deserves to be called a sex offender.

Also, just look at him
Even if he just kissed her! He's a grown ass 22 year old man, going after a girl who is in elementary school.
This isn't a case of a 18 year old and 17 year old or some shit. This fucker went after an actual child.

I do think that the sex offender registry sometimes is too much. I don't think someone who hires a hooker or pees in public should be there.
But the man who seeks sexual contact with a girl in elementary school? Yeah, fuck him, I want to know what he looks like if he moves to my neighborhood.
Fuck this guy.
 
Derek Logue says he shouldn’t have to carry the label for life, “Referring to me by a label for something I did half my life ago is inappropriate and downright offensive.”

He argued “client” would be a better term.
Your Honor, I stuffed a 20 dollar bill down her shirt with the expectation that I become her sexual client. I had no choice but to chase her down and get my money's worth after she screamed no and ran away.
 
Most sex offenders don't have a felonious mindset, they're basically normal people except for wanting to fuck kids. They might molest somebody they have access to through their work or family or community position, but snatching up random kids into a candyvan isn't something they'd ever consider.

The same reason gun laws can't do shit about gangsters but they can cut depressed teenagers shooting up schools to basically zero.
They're inherently predatory and opportunistic. If they've escalated to l the point that that actually offend upon children irl then they've either:
1- convinced themselves that children can enjoy sexual encounters with adults, and these kids were "coming on to them" and "wanted it" or
2- They're sociopath types that do not feel empathy and thus don't care about inflicting harm upon their victims. Their own sexual gratification is the only thing that matters to them.
Sure, they probably won't snatch a kid off the street in broad daylight, but given enough freedom it's only a matter of time before they find an especially vulnerable target to abuse again. They don't stop because they decided it isn't worth getting arrested again, they either stop because they're put someplace where they physically do not have access to kids anymore or they get better at not being caught.
 
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