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Thanksgiving 'myth'? Universities ask whether Americans should 'reconsider' holiday as 'Day of Mourning'​

At least six universities are participating in the event​

Several American universities are participating in an event asking whether Americans should "reconsider" the Thanksgiving holiday.

The alumni associations of the University of Maryland, Florida Gulf Coast University, Washington State University, University of Central Arkansas, Hiram College in Ohio and California State University, Long Beach are participating.

After the initial publication of this story, a spokesperson for UCA claimed it had "no knowledge" of the webinar. After Fox News asked UCA why it had no knowledge of a webinar its own website promoted, the spokesperson said, "ALC is a contracted service that the UCA Alumni Association uses for content. From what we’ve been able to determine, the information was mistakenly linked to UCA. This webinar was not one that was requested by our alumni association." The event has now been removed from UCA's website.

According to the event description, the recent national shift from Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples Day "reflects a changing national mood," and asks if Americans should do the same with Thanksgiving.

"Starting in 1970, many Americans, led by Indigenous protesters, believed that Thanksgiving should be rededicated as a National Day of Mourning to reflect the centuries-long displacement and persecution of Native Americans. The recent shift from Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples Day reflects a changing national mood," the event description states. "Should Americans reconsider Thanksgiving when wrestling with our country’s complicated past?"

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"The myth of Thanksgiving is powerful and ubiquitous. In the autumn of 1621, so American legend has it, English Pilgrims seeking religious freedom shared a feast with Wampanoags, the residents of the territory the Pilgrims labeled Plymouth," the event description adds. "The good feelings of that meal soon faded when Native peoples and English colonists, including the Pilgrims, began to compete for resources, initiating conflicts that raged for generations. Yet despite the often-violent relations between the nation and Indigenous communities, the myth of coexistence remained."

The event's speaker, Peter C. Mancall, a professor at the University of Southern California, told Fox News that his goal for the event is to "explain the context for events and offer insights about how to interpret the existing evidence."

"I respect my audience’s ability to draw their own conclusions about the material," he said.

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A spokesperson for the University of Maryland said that the alumni association has a contract with the Alumni Learning Consortium, which hosts the event. A spokesperson for California State University, Long Beach also said that university pays to participate in the Alumni Learning Consortium.

A spokesperson for Florida Gulf Coast University said that the university's alumni association pays $2,500 to Professional Book Club Guru, which also provides access to the event. A spokesperson for Hiram College in Ohio said the college also pays for events through the Professional Book Club Guru.

The Alumni Learning Consortium is managed by the Professional Book Club Guru, which states that its mission is to "help alumni associations create more and higher quality online programs to drive engagement."
 
This is funny because it is specifically universities asking for this. Around Thanksgiving, universities tend to give kids 3 days off of school. Officially it's 2 days, but a lot of professors leave early and the ones that don't tend to be more forgiving, so in practice 3 days.

You know what else gets kids 3 days off of school? Usually around finals week, grandma dies. The exact bereavement policy varies from school to school, but the general idea stays the same. Someone dies, you need to mourn, you get time off.

The first few examples I found online grant 3 days for:

The death of a direct family member in state
A student’s absence from class will be excused in the event of a death in the student’s immediate family or household for up to three consecutive business days for in-state memorial services and five consecutive business days for out-of-state memorial services.

The death of extended family
Up to three days of bereavement in the event of the death of an uncle, aunt, niece, nephew, or cousin.

The death of friends (overseas)
In the event that a death occurs to a family member or friend that is not specifically covered by the policy, students can communicate the circumstances to the Dean of Students (DOS) to determine on a case by case basis if it is covered by this policy.
Verified funeral services outside the 48 contiguous United States 3 days

Standards operating procedure is already for universities to act like they're mourning during Thanksgiving. Now they're just being extra obnoxious about it trying to drag everyone else in.

Actually I guess the part where in both cases the kid in theory returns home during the break is consistent too. They just aren't very political about it when they're really in mourning.
 
"Starting in 1970, many Americans, led by Indigenous protesters, believed that Thanksgiving should be rededicated as a National Day of Mourning to reflect the centuries-long displacement and persecution of Native Americans. The recent shift from Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples Day reflects a changing national mood," the event description states. "Should Americans reconsider Thanksgiving when wrestling with our country’s complicated past?"
These 'people' are an invasive species and nothing is ever enough for them.

I'm going to increase my intake of turkey, macaroni and cheese, and collard greens just to spite the the feather-head activists.
 
There are only three things I can guarantee on Thanksgiving, I will eat too much, the Lions will lose and I will see my family, I can offer no assurances regarding the performance of the Cowboys. I am so damn tired of these marxist killjoys trying to undermine everything that is good and wholesome and traditional about being an American.
 
And we all benefit from their having lost, in ways we can't extricate ourselves from.
It is what it is. I never asked to be born as a benefactor, and I played no part in making it happen in the past. But, why would I want to willingly give a good thing up? Talk about privilege all you want, but I'm not even going to consider relinquishing anything if the elitist assholes don't plan on doing anything with their privilege. Anyone who thinks I should give up part of my income, neighborhood, opportunities etc. to the "less privileged" without giving up part of their own billions, white only guarded neighborhoods etc. can go fuck themselves.
 
There are holidays in which the original meaning has been lost or blurred out. Christmas, Halloween, Easter...all these blur the lines between pagan, Catholic and secular now. Some just secular. Honestly, it doesn't really matter why we do 'Thanksgiving'. Its just giving thanks to strangers and your family. I mean, I don't think anybody over the age of 4 thinks about or gives a fuck about the pilgrim story. Take it, I don't give a shit. The 17th century was fucking miserable in 'The New World' and everyone was fucking dying.

Just use it as an excuse to eat food and drink booze.

>Country is incredibly divided
>Hmm, what would help?
>I know, lets get rid of a holiday that promotes coming together!




No.

Though we sometimes wonder why he gets a day and not Amerigo Vespucci.
It isn't Vespucci, because his name is too ethnic. Italians like myself were fucking hated back in the day. Even though Columbus was Italian, his name didn't SOUND Italian. And Columbus never set foot on the new world. He didn't actually set a single toe on American soil. He just found the islands and went into Central America. He fucked up, thought he was in India and treated the natives so bad, even the Pope and the Spaniards were like "Holy fucking shit, what the fuck are you doing you stupid spaghetti nigger, stop."

I hate Columbus. He was a fucking prick and didn't even discover the United States. "Columbus Day" has a better ring to it than "Amerigo Day" or "Vespucci Day". Of course, the first 'Columbus Day' was celebrated by Tammany Hall, a notoriously anti-immigrant political machine.

Truthfully, it should be a Viking Holiday, as we know factually that the Norse colonized North America 500 years before Columbus did. And they, you know, set foot on the continent, even if it was Canada. There's also a ton of interesting theories about other civilizations being the first to hit America, but we only really have hard evidence about the Norse.

So I don't give a shit about Columbus Day or the fucking start of Thanksgiving. If you hate it so much, just remove the myth from schools. Keep everything else. The myth doesn't matter, it isn't fucking important. What is important is that it is people coming together to just try and enjoy life.
 
According to the event description, the recent national shift from Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples Day "reflects a changing national mood," and asks if Americans should do the same with Thanksgiving.

No, no it doesn’t. If there is a changing national mood, it’s the growing united “Fuck off” response to bullshit of this nature.

This is the same known false assumption phrasing DEI likes to begin shit with. “George Floyd’s murder resulted in a racial reckoning that leaves Americans wanting to do more and asking, ‘What comes next?”

Which is a lie, it leaves Americans wanting these brats to sit their entire asses down and shut the entire way up, and also wanting to root out DEI in schools, and greatly reducing our tolerance for it at work since now we know how sinister it all really is. Support for BLM and in fact all woke grift is down by half year over year.
 
Shitty things happened in history and so what? Seriously so what? We should be for ever stuck on them? Fuck that. I'm more look good ideas and expand on them kinda girl. Like look for moments that brought different kinds of people together and celebrate that with people today.
Also, note, it's only Americans who should be ashamed of a period of history where EVERYONE rolled over ANYONE else they could.

Only America is required to tear down it's monuments.

Only America is required to present the worst-intentioned interpretation of historic events in textbooks

Only America is supposed to pay reparations and give up land that someone today legally owns and purchased in good faith because it had a different lineage of owner 5,000 years ago..... as if we are unique in the history of the world as the ONLY place where natives were bulldozed aside from the 15th to 20th centuries.

This desire to have a cosmic do-over and force everyone to not only relive the Age of Empire and Age of Colonialism, but also, deliberately throw the game so it plays out "right" this time is something the left is dead-set on seeing happen despite the fact that two wrongs don't make a right and punishing people today who have no connection to those of the past except skin color and ethnicity is the very racism they claim to be against.

Sins of the Father is not a logical ethos.

The people who committed that crime (which wasn't even a crime at the time, but I digress) died before you could punish them, and they can't feel anything now, no matter how hard you spank their great-great-great-great grandkids, they will still be dead and will still have gone to the grave thinking they were just and noble for what they did. That can't be changed.

If campus-bound genderfluid dangerhairs want to beat themselves up over white guilt, that's their call. But I will not sit down and join in, nor be coerced into it.

Your ideas about how criminalizing Thanksgiving is a Good Thing (tm) are childish, irrational and self-defeating.
 
Columbus's voyage sparked a new age of something and invented a new word or something. I don't remember. Point is, he is celebrated for something way beyond just landing on a piece of rock, so stop being faggots about it and just let the guy have his day.

As for Thanksgiving, it's a wholesome holiday that celebrates a time when two very different cultures broke bread together in peace. Wanting to eradicate it is pure evil because it furthers divides and creates conflict where there shouldn't be any. Whites and Natives are much closer to each other in culture and IQ than goddamn fucking negroes who are everywhere, so of course lefties want to wedge them apart.

Just a reminder, Indians don't give a shit about all this lefty nonsense. They just don't. (Well some do, but only the faggy troublemakers.) They call themselves red, they don't care about team names, and they can be greedier than jews when casinos are around.
 
Thanksgiving is a day to be with family, and pause to be thankful for what good things you have in life. I will do that, and leave these wretches to wallow in their misery.
My family was still in Europe when all this went down. As far as I'm concerned it has nothing to do with me.

The holiday isn't really all that tied into pilgrims and Indians anymore anyway. People just want their damn turkey.
Precisely this. My ancestors came over literally 300 years later.

"BUt YoU BeNeFiT FrOm iT!"

So does everyone else. Including these twerps.
 
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