11/18/2021 - Court case continued into the new year

[The Southwest Strangla]

If chan gets thrown in prison, will Chan's family want everything like the wiki to be removed from the internet?

Most of his family know about his internet fame and don’t really care and they don’t have the legal right to have it removed. It’s most likely protected by the 1st amendment

 

[Sonic T]

So, should we get Chris a file for Christmas to see if he tries to break out?

Bake the file into a cake, that way Chris can reenact cake farts for the guards.

 

[Cory and Trevor]

If Chris repeatedly raped his mom who has dementia then he is probably going to get 50 years in prison. The justice system isn't going to say oh well it's just Barb with dementia: that's no big deal. No, it'll actually make things ten times worse. The only way Chris is going to see the light of day is if he is declared incompetent, he reaches a plea of insanity, or if the police do not have any evidence. Chris is going to die in prison; probably of cardiac arrest at the age of 65.

 

[Ophelia]

Didn’t BlueSpike give Chris options about what to do with the medallion and Chris chose the butt?

 

[Undersideofcwcspillow]

Didn’t BlueSpike give Chris options about what to do with the medallion and Chris chose the butt?

No. He asked Chris to do multiple things. He asked him to burn the medallion. Then mass debate onto it. Then burn it. Then lose a finger. Then shove it up his ass.

But really, the 2 options were burn it or shove it up his ass.

 

[Hopkinsville Goblin]

If Chris repeatedly raped his mom who has dementia then he is probably going to get 50 years in prison. The justice system isn't going to say oh well it's just Barb with dementia: that's no big deal. No, it'll actually make things ten times worse. The only way Chris is going to see the light of day is if he is declared incompetent, he reaches a plea of insanity, or if the police do not have any evidence. Chris is going to die in prison; probably of cardiac arrest at the age of 65.

Chris has a very good lawyer and is charged with one count of incest and in Virginia that carries a maximum penalty of 10 years incarceration. I don't think he will get a life sentence.

 

[Deborah "Debbie" Grayson]

Hmm. Could a case be made that in fact he did not fuck his mother, but confessed due to the delusion that he did? After all, he is given to delusions, we know that.

The problem is that he speaks of it too matter-of-factly. It is not like his delusion of goddesshood and the Merge which are obvious fantasies; he described how he had to groom his mom, get her used to his touch. Wear down her defenses against the molestation before he actually performed various sexual acts with her, and when doing so he described her reacting to it as one would expect a 80+ woman getting her dusty, dry vag pounded by her autismo son would.

It’s all too real.

Add to that the fact that he lied about it to Null, concocting the cover of having found an older sugar mama/girlfriend; he knew Null wouldn’t approve of him fucking Barb. Meanwhile he’s had no problem flaunting his “real” delusions in Null’s face throughout their correspondence and conversations.

He done did the thing. Or things. Repeatedly. To his mom.

 

[Glowie]

Chances are in regards of Barb, she'll likely be under care from some of Chan's normal family members. Here's a question that's kind of bugging me. If chan gets thrown in prison, will Chan's family want everything like the wiki to be removed from the internet?

Chandler family hate Barbara for shady shit she pulled and history in manipulation doesn't help either. I have a hunch that Bank will foreclose Chandler house by 2022 when housing bubble bursts. Her pension can't afford the second mortgage payment on top of living expenses, utilities and mounting health issues that Barb has.

God forbid if she ends up in post Covid hospital where you can be charged for just waiting in line. Average ambulance ride costs tens of thousands if receipts are to believed. All in all Barb's future isn't bright since she's has her left foot in the grave already

 

[Radical Goodspeed]

Chances are in regards of Barb, she'll likely be under care from some of Chan's normal family members. Here's a question that's kind of bugging me. If chan gets thrown in prison, will Chan's family want everything like the wiki to be removed from the internet?

Iirc, Barb's only other known surviving family is the sister who's husband she tried to fuck. That aunt almost took Chris in after the DNC was given, until someone told them what he did. I'm not sure how bad the blood is between them at this point in their lives, but neither Chris nor Barb have much in the way of family support. Chris's early merge videos are painfully aware of this. Barb also wasn't the churchgoing one in the house either, so it's not like if Bob were the one and the congregation who respected him might chip in to help. Its literally between Chris and the State for her.

Ain't shit coming down. Cole is a lolcow lite, and Bob's kids wrote his dad's second family off in the 80's. If they think of Barb at all, its likely as the woman that broke up their parents. Even if they wanted to, it would only Streisand out of control, again.

 

[ttm33]

Chris does not have a public defender. He was appointed one of the top lawyers in Virginia, David L. Heilberg. He has 42 years of experience and helps write the manual on how to defend criminal cases in Virginia.

If he's appointed, then he's working as a public defender. CWC didn't hire him.

It's very well known in the legal community that Super Lawyers, the website you just linked to, is a joke. We talk shit about it. I get spam in my inbox from them all the time: you literally pay them a fee and you get to call yourself "Top Rated by Super Lawyers for [years you paid the fee]." I promise you that Heilberg wrote that blurb himself. And he didn't "help write the manual", he "helped edit a manual."

I'm not saying he's a bad attorney, but he's a guy who's taking on public defense cases and moonlighting as a adjunct professor to supplement his income. He's not Johnnie Cochran.

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

Actually there's evidence not publically being shown with Rittenhouse. Suffice to say; I am within easy driving distance of where the shooting happened, and I know some one who had one of his rounds almost bisect their skull.

There's alot of loaded shit involving the Kenosha PD you guys <as in the general public> might not hear about for years, and in the interest of ensuring my friend isn't harassed further by said PD, I won't upload the videos I've seen, but it's pretty fucked up.

Sorry, off topic, and PowerLevely; but I thought I'd share there's some serious shit that the public won't know about for years, if ever, due to police protecting police and their involvement.

Upload the videos or you’re an enabler of the commie criminal noseberg losers that Saint Kyle has removed from earth.

Kyle isn’t the police and they have every reason to toss him under the bus as well, so donate argument is a non starter.

 

[Coleslaw]

Didn’t BlueSpike give Chris options about what to do with the medallion and Chris chose the butt?

If BlueSpike was around today would he get the ILJ treatment?

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

The problem is that he speaks of it too matter-of-factly.

I think that's why Chris has, and never will be, rated as actually being insane. He's too upfront and pushy with his delusions, and they always vanish when he needs to talk about something important. I don't get why people are saying he's nuts, he literally comes up with, retcons, modifies and works with ideas until they're at a point where he likes them. If something else comes up, then it gets added on. If something he runs by someone else is deemed unfavorable, or favorable, then that gets modified.

The elaborate excuses he comes up with is also a prime indication of not being crazy. You can see how he keeps modifying past events into ways he can talk about them and be the victim every time. TooManyGames got retconned into a trolling plot. Sex with Barb was just him getting his dick wet, but more time with the bible turns it into Chris actually saving her.

Someone who was legitimately nuts wouldn't go through that system of modifying bad events into something more favorable for Chris isn't something someone who is legitimately insane would do.

 

[Shovel Mech Pilot]

Actually there's evidence not publically being shown with Rittenhouse. Suffice to say; I am within easy driving distance of where the shooting happened, and I know some one who had one of his rounds almost bisect their skull.

There's alot of loaded shit involving the Kenosha PD you guys <as in the general public> might not hear about for years, and in the interest of ensuring my friend isn't harassed further by said PD, I won't upload the videos I've seen, but it's pretty fucked up.

Sorry, off topic, and PowerLevely; but I thought I'd share there's some serious shit that the public won't know about for years, if ever, due to police protecting police and their involvement.

fake and gay

 

[King Kiwi]

I hope they're paying Heillberg well.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

If Chris repeatedly raped his mom who has dementia then he is probably going to get 50 years in prison. The justice system isn't going to say oh well it's just Barb with dementia: that's no big deal. No, it'll actually make things ten times worse. The only way Chris is going to see the light of day is if he is declared incompetent, he reaches a plea of insanity, or if the police do not have any evidence. Chris is going to die in prison; probably of cardiac arrest at the age of 65.

I could be very wrong if there's some damning evidence that I don't know about, but a lot of this hinges on Barb's cooperation. Barb is old, but the criteria for Chris to be convicted of the really nasty stuff without Barb's assistance is that she was literally physically incapable of refusing consent. i.e. unconscious, so mentally out of it that she was incapable of understanding what was happening, or physically paralyzed such that she couldn't communicate. It's not like with a minor where they're considered automatically unable to understand.

WITH Barb's assistance she can simply say that she was threatened, forced, unconscious, or just plain refused consent, I don't think that's happening if Barb's writing to Chris, also I think the prosecutor would have brought rape charges right away if this were the case.

Being old or even a bit demented doesn't mean the state takes away your right to consent automatically. They have to recognize that you are no longer your own guardian. And doing that wouldn't just make Chris fucking Barb illegal, it would make *anyone* fucking Barb illegal (though with harsher consequences if they were a caretaker, which Chris would've been).

I think that's the main reason we only see the incest charge. That's the one charge where there's no burden to prove lack of consent.

If he's appointed, then he's working as a public defender. CWC didn't hire him.

It's very well known in the legal community that Super Lawyers, the website you just linked to, is a joke. We talk shit about it. I get spam in my inbox from them all the time: you literally pay them a fee and you get to call yourself "Top Rated by Super Lawyers for [years you paid the fee]." I promise you that Heilberg wrote that blurb himself. And he didn't "help write the manual", he "helped edit a manual."

I'm not saying he's a bad attorney, but he's a guy who's taking on public defense cases and moonlighting as a adjunct professor to supplement his income. He's not Johnnie Cochran.

The distinction people make is that he's NOT from a PD's office and thus he has more control over his case load.

Yeah he's not who celebrities or billionaires are going to turn to, but he does seem to have a good track record, a lot of experience, and doesn't have any red flags. Realistically when a mortal millenial being is searching for an attorney you are going to go straight to avvo, and SEO spam is king and Heilberg, while being older and probably not natively internet savvy, saw an opportunity to spend some shekels and buy into something like SL for the extra blurb on avvo. That said, he doesn't seem to get much business that way given the lack of reviews.

Still, he seems to have had a lot of pre-internet-style old-school community activity. All in all he seems to be very respected in central Virginia, if nothing else for his experience. The local media seems to like to go to him a lot for commentary.

I hope they're paying Heillberg well.

They're not. He's not getting anywhere near what a private case would get him. The whole case will get him mid four figures max since there's an eventual cap. Still, at least it's something. Do remember that he's not spending all day working on this, probably just a few hours a week, or a solid day on weeks where something important happens.

EDIT: Full dislosure of edits I made to this because I was half-asleep when I wrote it initially. NOT from a PD office, and SEO not SOR. Although Sex Offender Registry optimization sounds like a burgeoning new industry.

 

[King Kiwi]

They're not. He's not getting anywhere near what a private case would get him. The whole case will get him mid four figures max since there's an eventual cap. Still, at least it's something. Do remember that he's not spending all day working on this, probably just a few hours a week, or a solid day on weeks where something important happens.

Poor fellow.

Hopefully he at least gets a kick out of some of the crazier aspects of Christory.

Pointless Sperg: He doesn't.

 

[ttm33]

Still, he seems to have had a lot of pre-internet-style old-school community activity. All in all he seems to be very respected in central Virginia, if nothing else for his experience. The local media seems to like to go to him a lot for commentary.

He strikes me as an above-average sized fish in the context of the Charlottesville, VA legal pond. The most noteworthy part of his CV is the sheer length of time he's been in the game: 40+ years is nothing to sneeze at. I just found the notion of someone linking to his SL page as evidence that he's a high power attorney to be needing context. We know that shit is just for marketing, but people outside the industry probably don't.

 

[Clint's Burden]

Chris has a very good lawyer and is charged with one count of incest and in Virginia that carries a maximum penalty of 10 years incarceration. I don't think he will get a life sentence.

I don't even think he'll get the maximum sentence, either. There's some history of minor criminal malfeasance but Chris isn't a career criminal, right. He's a gibbering idiot with mental health issues. If he serves any time, it'll be minimum and he'll get out earlier than expected on good behaviour. It's not even out of the realm of possibility that he be remanded to a mental health detention center either, though it's more than likely he'll just get sent to jail. Lots of people with mental health issues don't go to rehabilitation centers in the U.S from what I hear, they just get shipped off to county. It's pretty fucked up.

 

[Radical Goodspeed]

Odds are Chris's PD is doing this to score brownie points with the judge by taking the pay cut to act as a PD. He could be doing other things.

If Barb is refusing to cooperate with the case against Chris, then there's probably a lot talk trying to figure out how to keep them separate, knowing full well Chris's going to go right back to 14 BC and keep on keeping on.