Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[rubytintedchix]

That’s not really evidence of anything in terms of PA.

Most places have therapeutic courts or diversion programs that allow similar outcomes. DUIs in particular can easily be sent to addiction treatment diversion programs and then successful treatment completion drastically reduces charges. I’ve seen some defendants have DUI assaults and serve no jail time and do outpatient only.

Yes they do have addiction court and also mental health court in some cases. PA has the “Accelerated Rehabilitative Disposition” which is usually held for first time offenders for DUIs. Not that I want to PL, but my exceptional ex SIL got two DUIs back to back. If you get ARD and then say offend again in less than 24 months ARD is then off the table. You have to pay the fines and/or do jail time to boot if you fuck up. You can only do ARD once. It’s basically probabtion with auto-expungement at the end should you pay all your fines, do community service or whatever else is ordered of you.

I doubt Russ would qualify for any such programs should they exist in whatever state he filed because 1) he doesn’t do drugs or drink 2) while he is a narc, unless there’s some kind of really disturbing psych eval to back it (to where he could get a gov’t tugboat) he wouldn’t qualify for MH court either. The people they select are barely functioning humans. Also what he is convicted of is a borderline violent offense so yeah no. He’s not going to get anything expunged.

Also, there’s some kind of sentencing matrix that happens within the courts that evaluates offenders based on past offenses. My bet would be that Russ’s shit that happened in HS isn’t factored in because he was a minor. But this new charge and any ones going forward will.

IANAL, I basically know the above because I had to navigate the court system with an abusive ex.

 

[L. Ron Hubbard's Cat]

Yes they do have addiction court and also mental health court in some cases. PA has the “Accelerated Rehabilitative Disposition” which is usually held for first time offenders for DUIs. Not that I want to PL, but my exceptional ex SIL got two DUIs back to back. If you get ARD and then say offend again in less than 24 months ARD is then off the table. You have to pay the fines and/or do jail time to boot if you fuck up. You can only do ARD once. It’s basically probabtion with auto-expungement at the end should you pay all your fines, do community service or whatever else is ordered of you.

I doubt Russ would qualify for any such programs should they exist in whatever state he filed because 1) he doesn’t do drugs or drink 2) while he is a narc, unless there’s some kind of really disturbing psych eval to back it (to where he could get a gov’t tugboat) he wouldn’t qualify for MH court either. The people they select are barely functioning humans. Also what he is convicted of is a borderline violent offense so yeah no. He’s not going to get anything expunged.

Also, there’s some kind of sentencing matrix that happens within the courts that evaluates offenders based on past offenses. My bet would be that Russ’s shit that happened in HS isn’t factored in because he was a minor. But this new charge and any ones going forward will.

IANAL, I basically know the above because I had to navigate the court system with an abusive ex.

He was reportedly offered a deal that would have resulted in no criminal record. He managed to slurp his way out of that and into an actual conviction, though.

We assumed it was because he objected to having a mental health evaluation, but in his Nullsuit, he claims he was happy to do that and wants to sue everyone for saying he didn't. Instead, he says the prosecutor found out about his campaign to legalize brothels and cancelled the deal, and that he (Russ) has the email that proves this. This is obvious bullshit, of course, but it may suggest that something about his super creepiness was revealed to the prosecutor at the last minute, which made him decide that a criminal record was appropriate.

Hard to say. But he was initially offered a pretty sweet deal, to begin with. Something fucked it up though, and the various "just fucking kill me" expressions on his lawyer's face during the hearings makes me think it was something Russ initiated somehow.

 

[AnOminous]

Hard to say. But he was initially offered a pretty sweet deal, to begin with. Something fucked it up though, and the various "just fucking kill me" expressions on his lawyer's face during the hearings makes me think it was something Russ initiated somehow.

Imagine being Russhole, so flabbergastingly incompetent that even with legitimate legal counsel paid for by someone else, in a case that should have been completely minor open-and-shut shit with a stet/nol pros and no criminal record, he manages to get himself convicted out of pure stupidity.

And now he's a convict.

 

[The Dude]

I don't think they even get to that because auditioning for a reality show isn't an activity subject to usual employment discrimination lawsuits. You're actually allowed to discriminate in that context, for instance only hiring a black man to play Othello or otherwise making decisions based on usually prohibited classifications, such as for instance being an ugly, smelly, greasy looking guy who looks like a bum and slurps and drools like an exceptional individual.

I may be misremembering but I think he was initially offered something like that, but turned it down like the slobbering, slurping moron he is and ultimately had to plead guilty to an actual misdemeanor crime. Utah like most states has some process for expungement of minor offenses but I'm not sure if this would qualify. This isn't his first rodeo and while it's only a misdemeanor, it's the sort that really should be on his record so it shows up in background checks, because this freak is a public menace.

Oh, I know. I was responding to a hypothetical someone else posted about wanting to see Russhole's lack of talent addressed in court records. AGT's high powered Hollywood Jew lawyers will have Russ' shit shut down just by supplying their release forms and agreements that everyone who auditions is required to sign. Russ agreed that he wouldn't litigate if he wasn't selected to compete. You'd think that someone trained in law would know to read the fine print.

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

You'd think that someone trained in law would know to read the fine print.

Russ might as well have gotten his paralegal degree from the back of a comic book.

 

[rubytintedchix]

He was reportedly offered a deal that would have resulted in no criminal record. He managed to slurp his way out of that and into an actual conviction, though.

We assumed it was because he objected to having a mental health evaluation, but in his Nullsuit, he claims he was happy to do that and wants to sue everyone for saying he didn't. Instead, he says the prosecutor found out about his campaign to legalize brothels and cancelled the deal, and that he (Russ) has the email that proves this. This is obvious bullshit, of course, but it may suggest that something about his super creepiness was revealed to the prosecutor at the last minute, which made him decide that a criminal record was appropriate.

Hard to say. But he was initially offered a pretty sweet deal, to begin with. Something fucked it up though, and the various "just fucking kill me" expressions on his lawyer's face during the hearings makes me think it was something Russ initiated somehow.

Now that you mention it, that sounds correct. In my case a lot of my ex’s record didn’t count against him because he took plea deals or that no contest bullshit. He still has charges on his record, but I think it counts differently than if he went to court and actually was found guilty by jury trial. I knew there was some loop hole as to why those things didn’t count but couldn’t remember what it was. I think it was because I tried blocking most of it out.

 

[Pee Cola]

Russ might as well have gotten his paralegal degree from the back of a comic book.

It wouldn't have taken him as long and he'd be just as good at law as he is now.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

I have to wonder if Russ purposefully blows his money on ridiculous shit so he can file his vanity lawsuits IFP or if he's just too stupid to do anything but piss away money the moment it appears in his bank account.

He was reportedly offered a deal that would have resulted in no criminal record. He managed to slurp his way out of that and into an actual conviction, though.

We assumed it was because he objected to having a mental health evaluation, but in his Nullsuit, he claims he was happy to do that and wants to sue everyone for saying he didn't. Instead, he says the prosecutor found out about his campaign to legalize brothels and cancelled the deal, and that he (Russ) has the email that proves this. This is obvious bullshit, of course, but it may suggest that something about his super creepiness was revealed to the prosecutor at the last minute, which made him decide that a criminal record was appropriate.

Hard to say. But he was initially offered a pretty sweet deal, to begin with. Something fucked it up though, and the various "just fucking kill me" expressions on his lawyer's face during the hearings makes me think it was something Russ initiated somehow.

Without going back and looking, I feel like there was a brief time when things looked headed for a trial until the last moment. I wonder if that represented Russ insisting on his day in court until he had sense beaten into him- but by then the good deal was off the table and he had to settle for a relatively minor conviction (instead of stet docket or whatever they had worked out)

 

[L. Ron Hubbard's Cat]

I have to wonder if Russ purposefully blows his money on ridiculous shit so he can file his vanity lawsuits IFP or if he's just too stupid to do anything but piss away money the moment it appears in his bank account.

Without going back and looking, I feel like there was a brief time when things looked headed for a trial until the last moment. I wonder if that represented Russ insisting on his day in court until he had sense beaten into him- but by then the good deal was off the table and he had to settle for a relatively minor conviction (instead of stet docket or whatever they had worked out)

Yeah, I invested some time last night into reading back through it. It was spring/summer of 2020 if anyone else wants to go back.

From what I gathered from the (very brief) refresher, the timeline went

1. Russ has a hearing and it appears that a deal is in place (I think).
2. Erika objects. Erika's lawyer wants Erika to give a statement and some other things introduced.
3. Erika's lawyer convinces judge to order psych eval, fails to convince judge to order psychosexual eval (that's stayed).
4. Something happens.
5. Starts to look a like a trial might happen after all.
6. Russ's long-suffering lawyer "looks like his patience was recently tried" and accepts worse deal (with criminal record) as Russ seethes in the corner.

So we thought that it was the psych eval that made Russ suddenly decide to reject the deal and insist on a trial. It seemed his lawyer talked him out of a trial, but not in time to take the original deal. So Russ got an objectively worse deal. This was the consensus of the thread, but I don't think it was ever verified.

IF it wasn't the psych eval, then something else happened. Maybe the prosecutor was sufficiently disturbed by some evidence that Erika's lawyer introduced to cancel the deal. Erika's lawyer did explicitly bring up the, 'Why I'm Making it Legal for Your 18 Year Old Daughter to Get in Bed with a Complete Stranger for Only $500' manifesto. Maybe that did it. That would track with Russ's later claim that it was because he was "trying to legalize brothels," when the reality wasn't the brothels per se, but rather the unbelievably creepy way Russ talked about them that did it.

Also remember that Russ said he fought with his attorney, likely to have a trial. When the no-criminal-record deal went away, it would make sense for him to think he should go for broke and demand a trial to exonerate him. (Well, sense to Russ at least, who still doesn't think he did anything wrong.) He wouldn't see himself as having anything to lose at that point. Unfortunately for us, he had a competent attorney who absolutely would not let him do this, because even I can see it would be a profoundly bad idea.

It looks like we might've been wrong, but I'm okay with that because frankly, he should have gone to jail for that fucking pamphlet alone. I need a shower just thinking about it, lol. And I love that much like his fumbled plea deal, it's objectively worse that he got done for being an unrepentant creep rather than for being too stubborn to have a psych eval done.

Architect of his own misfortune, as always.

 

[Fwiffo]

Yeah, I invested some time last night into reading back through it. It was spring/summer of 2020 if anyone else wants to go back.

From what I gathered from the (very brief) refresher, the timeline went

1. Russ has a hearing and it appears that a deal is in place (I think).
2. Erika objects. Erika's lawyer wants Erika to give a statement and some other things introduced.
3. Erika's lawyer convinces judge to order psych eval, fails to convince judge to order psychosexual eval (that's stayed).
4. Something happens.
5. Starts to look a like a trial might happen after all.
6. Russ's long-suffering lawyer "looks like his patience was recently tried" and accepts worse deal (with criminal record) as Russ seethes in the corner.

So we thought that it was the psych eval that made Russ suddenly decide to reject the deal and insist on a trial. It seemed his lawyer talked him out of a trial, but not in time to take the original deal. So Russ got an objectively worse deal. This was the consensus of the thread, but I don't think it was ever verified.

IF it wasn't the psych eval, then something else happened. Maybe the prosecutor was sufficiently disturbed by some evidence that Erika's lawyer introduced to cancel the deal. Erika's lawyer did explicitly bring up the, 'Why I'm Making it Legal for Your 18 Year Old Daughter to Get in Bed with a Complete Stranger for Only $500' manifesto. Maybe that did it. That would track with Russ's later claim that it was because he was "trying to legalize brothels," when the reality wasn't the brothels per se, but rather the unbelievably creepy way Russ talked about them that did it.

Also remember that Russ said he fought with his attorney, likely to have a trial. When the no-criminal-record deal went away, it would make sense for him to think he should go for broke and demand a trial to exonerate him. (Well, sense to Russ at least, who still doesn't think he did anything wrong.) He wouldn't see himself as having anything to lose at that point. Unfortunately for us, he had a competent attorney who absolutely would not let him do this, because even I can see it would be a profoundly bad idea.

It looks like we might've been wrong, but I'm okay with that because frankly, he should have gone to jail for that fucking pamphlet alone. I need a shower just thinking about it, lol. And I love that much like his fumbled plea deal, it's objectively worse that he got done for being an unrepentant creep rather than for being too stubborn to have a psych eval done.

Architect of his own misfortune, as always.

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Truly a lolcow hallmark

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

If I may, I'd like to formalize the Russell Greer cycle:

1. Dormancy: Russell goes quiet for a while, and every so often emerges to creep on beautiful women. The thread relapses into talking about Russell's past exploits while we wait for new content.
2. Inception: Russell sows the seeds for drama to come. It may be filing a new lolsuit, moving to a new state, or starting a Political Action Committee. The thread gets something new to talk about.
3. Gestation: Russell goes quiet again, and the thread returns to talking about his past drama. This is similar to stage one, except the thread now waits with baited breath for Russ's latest drama to bite him in the ass.
4. Response: Russell provokes a negative response from his target, resulting in him getting slapped down. Lolsuits get dismissed, whores mock him, and restraining orders against him are given.
5. Meltdown: Russell throws an impotent tantrum over reality attempting to smack some sense into him. Court appeals, Instagram posts, Facebook screeds- whatever form it takes, this is Russ at his funniest.

Then the cycle repeats.

Thots Thoughts? Comments? Puzzle pieces?

 

[Constellationzero]

I have to wonder if Russ purposefully blows his money on ridiculous shit so he can file his vanity lawsuits IFP or if he's just too stupid to do anything but piss away money the moment it appears in his bank account.

Wow, you hear all the time about vanity projects, vanity recordings, vanity publishing. But vanity lawsuits...Slurpy got the lock on that

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

the most amazing thing about all of this to me is that he could easily monetize himself if he got on twitch or youtube live or some other live streaming platform that takes monetary gifts to answer questions. he could make more money being open and unashamed and interacting with his “haters” than any of these ill-fated legal pursuits. he could legit make a killing. can you fathom the attendees to a russell greer livestream?

He'd have to have at least some level of humility or skin that's not tissue-thick in order to give his haters an opportunity to SLANDER him because of his disability and RUIN his career!

Erika's lawyer did explicitly bring up the, 'Why I'm Making it Legal for Your 18 Year Old Daughter to Get in Bed with a Complete Stranger for Only $500' manifesto. Maybe that did it. That would track with Russ's later claim that it was because he was "trying to legalize brothels," when the reality wasn't the brothels per se, but rather the unbelievably creepy way Russ talked about them that did it.

That "book" was so bad it was almost as if he made it as a trolling attempt to piss off everyone at once, both women and men. Especially the title, like "Hey gents, let me start by making you think "gee, what if this were my daughter Russ were talking about?"!!!"
But its Russ so in his head its probably a logical and charismatic convincing argument.

 

[DrJonesHat]

Yeah, I invested some time last night into reading back through it. It was spring/summer of 2020 if anyone else wants to go back.

From what I gathered from the (very brief) refresher, the timeline went

1. Russ has a hearing and it appears that a deal is in place (I think).
2. Erika objects. Erika's lawyer wants Erika to give a statement and some other things introduced.
3. Erika's lawyer convinces judge to order psych eval, fails to convince judge to order psychosexual eval (that's stayed).
4. Something happens.
5. Starts to look a like a trial might happen after all.
6. Russ's long-suffering lawyer "looks like his patience was recently tried" and accepts worse deal (with criminal record) as Russ seethes in the corner.

So we thought that it was the psych eval that made Russ suddenly decide to reject the deal and insist on a trial. It seemed his lawyer talked him out of a trial, but not in time to take the original deal. So Russ got an objectively worse deal. This was the consensus of the thread, but I don't think it was ever verified.

IF it wasn't the psych eval, then something else happened. Maybe the prosecutor was sufficiently disturbed by some evidence that Erika's lawyer introduced to cancel the deal. Erika's lawyer did explicitly bring up the, 'Why I'm Making it Legal for Your 18 Year Old Daughter to Get in Bed with a Complete Stranger for Only $500' manifesto. Maybe that did it. That would track with Russ's later claim that it was because he was "trying to legalize brothels," when the reality wasn't the brothels per se, but rather the unbelievably creepy way Russ talked about them that did it.

Also remember that Russ said he fought with his attorney, likely to have a trial. When the no-criminal-record deal went away, it would make sense for him to think he should go for broke and demand a trial to exonerate him. (Well, sense to Russ at least, who still doesn't think he did anything wrong.) He wouldn't see himself as having anything to lose at that point. Unfortunately for us, he had a competent attorney who absolutely would not let him do this, because even I can see it would be a profoundly bad idea.

It looks like we might've been wrong, but I'm okay with that because frankly, he should have gone to jail for that fucking pamphlet alone. I need a shower just thinking about it, lol. And I love that much like his fumbled plea deal, it's objectively worse that he got done for being an unrepentant creep rather than for being too stubborn to have a psych eval done.

Architect of his own misfortune, as always.

Erika wanted his sentence to include treatment, not just a psych eval. Russ doesn't think there's anything wrong with him, so he was upset she was suggesting he needed therapy.

 

[FernandoPooTragedy]

It's hilarious to me how he has essentially the same success rate as people halfway across the world shitting in the streets, whose entire internet consumption is solely through facebook's 3rd-world initiative programs.

You know, there was a funny story a few years back about how Indians were basically crashing the internet (facebook anyways) every single morning because they ritualistically have to send each other "good morning brother peace be upon you" messages lazily pasted onto stock art of flowers and sunrises and shit. The bandwidth from these messages alone caused various outages. I wonder if on some smaller scale, Russell does that with his LinkedIn/Instagram thirstposting...

From what we've seen, he has even less game than the usual Indonesian dudes who send daily "Good Morning My Friend" written on a glitter rose gif messages to random women. Sure Russ makes an "effort" but not that much of an effort and it should be enough for you you crazy AIDS-ridden whores!

That being said, I am almost certain he has some sort of form DM thing. And frankly I'd love to know what they read as.

"Hey Beautiful,

I have been watching your profile for a while and you have lit up my life with your bangin' beauty. But I'm not like those other guys who don't give a shit about you and pretend to see your real beauty. I love that you're a [Pizza Slut/Cheerleader/Squirrel fan/Mermaid/Insert superficial thing on her profile here]. That's super cool!

I'm a disabled aspiring songwriter who has kicked my disability's ass and sings songs about Body Positivity and I'm a political activist legalizing sex work! I thought maybe you'd be interested in that. I am legalizing sex work because I am a legal professional and have over 1000 Facebook followers. Aaaand I go to the gym! But it's not all easy, since I can't move my face or close my mouth. A lot of people make fun of me or laugh at me, but I shake it off.

In the meantime, drop your Venmo/cash app/PayPal so I can send you a little sumpin sumpin to treat yo self! And check out my latest [song or book] here! [link]

Make sure to message me back, hot stuff. I know you get tons of messages, but if you noticed me, it would be the greatest. You don't want to miss out on this cool guy and the better life I can give you!

Love, Your Next Boyfriend,

Russell Greer"

Then a succession of "Hey" over and over until the insults start.

 

[the khat quaffer]

From what we've seen, he has even less game than the usual Indonesian dudes who send daily "Good Morning My Friend" written on a glitter rose gif messages to random women. Sure Russ makes an "effort" but not that much of an effort and it should be enough for you you crazy AIDS-ridden whores!

That being said, I am almost certain he has some sort of form DM thing. And frankly I'd love to know what they read as.

"Hey Beautiful,

I have been watching your profile for a while and you have lit up my life with your bangin' beauty. But I'm not like those other guys who don't give a shit about you and pretend to see your real beauty. I love that you're a [Pizza Slut/Cheerleader/Squirrel fan/Mermaid/Insert superficial thing on her profile here]. That's super cool!

I'm a disabled aspiring songwriter who has kicked my disability's ass and sings songs about Body Positivity and I'm a political activist legalizing sex work! I thought maybe you'd be interested in that. I am legalizing sex work because I am a legal professional and have over 1000 Facebook followers. Aaaand I go to the gym! But it's not all easy, since I can't move my face or close my mouth. A lot of people make fun of me or laugh at me, but I shake it off.

In the meantime, drop your Venmo/cash app/PayPal so I can send you a little sumpin sumpin to treat yo self! And check out my latest [song or book] here! [link]

Make sure to message me back, hot stuff. I know you get tons of messages, but if you noticed me, it would be the greatest. You don't want to miss out on this cool guy and the better life I can give you!

Love, Your Next Boyfriend,

Russell Greer"

Then a succession of "Hey" over and over until the insults start.

I would imagine it's more like these. At least the Indians are funny.

 

[DrJonesHat]

I would imagine it's more like these. At least the Indians are funny.

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I think any woman Russ propositions would be within her rights to demand a background check, a credit check, and proof of income once he starts trashing her bf and saying he can give her a better life. I think his guilty plea would pop up, and he's said he has issues with his credit, and he's not in a high paying position, or he'd be bragging about it constantly. Then she should tell him how her boyfriend stacks up against him. She should especially do this when Russ insists he's better than her boyfriend.

 

[FernandoPooTragedy]

I think any woman Russ propositions would be within her rights to demand a background check, a credit check, and proof of income once he starts trashing her bf and saying he can give her a better life. I think his guilty plea would pop up, and he's said he has issues with his credit, and he's not in a high paying position, or he'd be bragging about it constantly. Then she should tell him how her boyfriend stacks up against him. She should especially do this when Russ insists he's better than her boyfriend.

"I told you that you were pretty and MORE THAN YOU THINK YOU ARE!"

"My boyfriend said I was gorgeous while we were planning our post-pandemic trip to the South of France."

"Well I'm a paralegal. What does your boyfriend do?"

"He's literally Michael B. Jordan."

"That saggy-pantsed thug doesn't appreciate you!"

"He lets me drive his Lambo. Good-bye." *block*

 

[obliviousbeard]

She should especially do this when Russ insists he's better than her boyfriend.

He'll just tune them out, maybe repeat how he'll give them a better life with someone who actually cares and is studly handsome. After couple of repeats he'd get annoyed since he was preparing to venmo her a dollar, and send out a cool dms too!

 

[DrJonesHat]

He'll just tune them out, maybe repeat how he'll give them a better life with someone who actually cares and is studly handsome. After couple of repeats he'd get annoyed since he was preparing to venmo her a dollar, and send out a cool dms too!

I don't think Russ comprehends how out of his league he is with the kind of guys that models date. These are the kind of people who can buy the subject of their desire a new sports car with cash. They can fly to the tropics on a whim. They own more than one suit (and they all fit).