Waukesha, WI, Parade Vehicle Attack - Suspect is Darrell Edward Brooks, currently in custody.

[JoyfulDarter]

Do not harass Joan Crawford. Let's pretend it's a movie.

Too late, I'm having a medium transmit violent rape and death threats to her beyond the grave as we speak.

 

[Suburban Bastard]

I feel like everyone here is coping because they really wanted this guy to be some Black supremacist terrorist who intentionally murdered White people because of the Rittenhouse verdict, when in reality it seems like the guy is just your run of the mill exceptional individual criminal trying to escape the police after stabbing someone. Even his Facebook account doesn't seem that damning, just typical BLM shit. Don't get me wrong, fuck this guy and I hope he rots in prison forever, but I'm just not seeing the whole terrorist angle.

Yeah that's pretty much my take too.

 

[Techpriest]

The last one. But let's see it's for real.

Anyway, think of that situation and see if it WOULD be terrorism.

I don’t really think you could classify it as terrorism as Crawford is an individual. It’s specific hatred toward her, sure, but it’s not meant to effect a political change.

 

[The Last Stand]

No, I'm the culprit because I'm currently driving my car through the crowd to get to and harass Joan Crawford simply because I was just told not to.

But are you a terrorist for doing that? Or just some crazed lunatic? You all of sudden grew a hatred over this wonderful lady and you already have priors before that.

 

[whatever I feel like]

So let me get this straight. A white person driving home from work who has a history of posting on Facebook for years about how he hates black people and espousing a strong support for a white racial movement, and sees a parade of entirely black children and women and then drives full speed through this crowd, killing 5 and injuring 19 young children, is not a terrorist?

I'm not trying to be mean, but are you guys fucking exceptional?

If he is not a 1) non-state actor using 2)violence in order to 3)incite political change by 4)causing fear then he's not a terrorist. Sorry you are too retarded to know what the term means.

 

[Suburban Bastard]

But are you a terrorist for doing that? Or just some crazed lunatic? You all of sudden grew a hatred over this wonderful lady and you already have priors before that.

I would say crazed lunatic since I'm thinking about whether I was just a terrorist.

 

[Techpriest]

But are you a terrorist for doing that? Or just some crazed lunatic? You all of sudden grew a hatred over this wonderful lady and you already have priors before that.

That’s more the crazed lunatic I feel.

 

[Hüftpriester]

He just had tunnel vision after possibly stabbing a woman a few blocks away, right?

 

[Puff]

News reading beanie is talking about "has the race war started" article.

 

[Evo]

Let's have fun for a second.

Let's say a man hates Joan Crawford. He commits vandalism on her car while she's filming. Then, he kills several people trying to get to her. Is that considered terrorism?

It depends - does he hate Joan Crawford for an ideologically-minded reason that can be attributed towards a doctrine, or does he hate Joan Crawford for personal grudges? If the former, yes, it's terrorism - if the latter, no, it isn't; "terrorism" in the legal sense as defined by the Department of Defense circa 2000 requires the presence of a political and/or religious doctrine motivating the attack, not a personal grudge between you and another Human being over entirely personal and innocuous shit.

Definition of terrorism in the context of legal adjudication has changed significantly over the years in this specific regard:

State Department (1984-1997) "Terrorism means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an audience."

DOD (2000): "Terrorism is the calculated use of violence or threat of violence to inculcate fear; intended to coerce or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious or ideological."

FBI (1999-2002): "Terrorism is defined as the unlawful use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual... committed against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives." <-- this definition is still in play by the FBI.

United States House of Representatives Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (2002): "Terrorism is the illegitimate, premeditated violence or threat of violence by subnational groups against persons of property with the intent to coerce a government by installing fear amongst the populace."

Final two come around the same era and completely contradict one another - in terms of him being tried by basic judicial apparatus? Yes, he's a terrorist and that includes trials at the federal level; if, however, anything remotely related to the United States military were to come out as a relation of this investigation (obviously it won't, I'm just spitballing) then no, in accordance with the U.S.H.R.P.S.C.I, no, he is not a terrorist unless evidence is clearly brought up that it was planned in a military context and/or using the trainings offered to someone by the military.

Overall I don't really fucking care what the legal term for an individual like this is as any term the average person would inevitably find more appropriate, would often be much harsher in the literal sense - just that they swing for what they've done.

 

[Not Really Here]

If he is not a 1) non-state actor using 2)violence in order to 3)incite political change by 4)causing fear then he's not a terrorist. Sorry you are too exceptional to know what the term means.

or to retaliate against government conduct

 

[Suburban Bastard]

News reading beanie is talking about "has the race war started" article.

Tim is kind of a faggot, ngl

 

[Crystal Golem]

Police don’t sound their sirens when at a parade and if it’s a big enough event just have them flashing. He honestly might have seen a cop with lights on and thought it was a blockade for him and decided to run it not even realizing what he was going down.

Yeah but firetrucks/fire vehicles regularly make appearances blaring their sirens which would be a pretty good indication something is going on no?

 

[Android raptor]

FTFY

Yes but that's not related to whether or not this dude did this for political reasons.

Anyway I wonder if he's gonna stay silent or spill everything? If its the later I know confessions for major crimes can take hours so even if it was politically motivated we might not find out for a while yet.

 

[ShoFuKan]

From the press conference, they say Brooks was running from a domestic disturbance which he was bailed for on felony charges and ran into the crowd. Being real silent about the racial angle though. Also saying he acted alone, so not sure about the police scanner, maybe they were black guys who just ran away because heavy cop presence and later let go.

Memorial somewhere.

A new angle at the barricade, actually shows shots fired from the officer. And Jesus, there's still kids in the middle of the road, luckily none hit as adults swoop in. The shots came from the back right side to the front, despite the moving target, the officer got 1 shot through the windshield angled from behind. Impressive.

 

[Puff]

Tim is kind of a faggot, ngl

Just watching cause Rackets is on. Never watched tim live before and rarely watch him unless there's someone I like as a guest.

 

[The Last Stand]

It depends - does he hate Joan Crawford for an ideologically-minded reason that can be attributed towards a doctrine, or does he hate Joan Crawford for personal grudges? If the former, yes, it's terrorism - if the latter, no, it isn't; "terrorism" in the legal sense as defined by the Department of Defense circa 2000 requires the presence of a political and/or religious doctrine motivating the attack, not a personal grudge between you and another Human being over entirely personal and innocuous shit.

What does the popular consensus say?

He just hates Joan Crawford. May or may not hate women, Hollywood or the Jews. Internet did not exist back then, so have fun with it.

 

[Techpriest]

He just had tunnel vision after possibly stabbing a woman a few blocks away, right?
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What, you’re going to stop for police after you just stabbed someone?

 

[The Last Stand]

What, you’re going to stop for police after you just stabbed someone?

Why stab somebody to begin with?

 

[Techpriest]

Why stab somebody to begin with?

A good question, one I am sure the cops also are asking Brooks about.