Global Supply Chain Crisis 2021: Megathread - A cozy thread for watching the supply chain fall apart just in time for the holidays

[Simple Moving Average]

That's ridiculous. You can't keep a mainland Chinese as a pet, they're docile but they turn wherever they live into an unspeakably polluted wasteland. China needs some better pets.

They're working on that. Trust me.

 

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Drug, feed ingredient shortages hit U.S. livestock producers

I am here to say this is true and it suuuuuucks so bad. I dropped by the feed store earlier and what little they had in the way of chicken feed was 50% more expensive than a month ago. Interestingly, most of the cat and dog food had 'Made in the USA' markings on it, and I would swear that included some brands I thought were made in China. I'm starting to wonder if China isn't making pet food anymore and that's why the shortages are so bad.

Canned pet food shortage causing woes among pet owners

You could just make your own dog food.


Most of the time my hound just eats what I eat. Or store brand canned chicken/beaf mixed with canned patato's or mixed veggies if I am having take out or something dogs can't eat.

I am of the belief that specific "dog food" is a 20th century consoomer scam. And feeding your dog the same exact shit every day made up of sawdust and who knows what else for his whole life can't be good for him.

Even if you can't cook at all store brand canned stews and such are not much more then mystery meat canned dog food.

 

[George Lucas]

I can’t think of any pet food in the US not made in the US. Not sure why that guy has to keep shilling Purina which is literally the worst brand.

I feed my pets whatever food they’ve eaten for thousands of years. For dogs and cats that would be raw meat. Much healthier and you never have to worry about recalls because they’re eating stuff made for people.

 

[Scale Smerch]

Beyond basic goods if you're one who likes real Christmas trees (and don't cut them down yourself) I'd strongly recommend getting yours as soon as they go on sale this year. Chatting with the lot I buy from has indicated the supply is worse than last year (drought is compounding with the lower planting of saplings back in the early 2010s) and is being heavily exacerbated by the logistics clusterfuck and increased consumer interest. Oh and that's before including the floods in the Pacific northwest as well screwing with things.

The expectation is you won't be finding one in store by second week of December.

 

[Frostnipped Todger]

You could just make your own dog food.
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Most of the time my hound just eats what I eat. Or store brand canned chicken/beaf mixed with canned patato's or mixed veggies if I am having take out or something dogs can't eat.

I am of the belief that specific "dog food" is a 20th century consoomer scam. And feeding your dog the same exact shit every day made up of sawdust and who knows what else for his whole life can't be good for him.

Even if you can't cook at all store brand canned stews and such are not much more then mystery meat canned dog food.
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We make our own. Take oats, some frozen vegetables/whatever is left over from dinner, soak overnight and mix it with diced beef/kangaroo/venison (depending on what we have). We can buy diced beef or kangaroo for $4.50 a kilo from the pet store, or if I've gotten a deer then the dog has a month of trimmings to get through.
Supplement that with a couple of bones, and a can of sardines in olive oil a week, and he's looking good.

 

[Sped Xing]

I'm just glad the do-it-yourself dog food people aren't part of the "bones and raw meat" malarkey. Dogs are omnivores with very similar dietary requirements to humans.

Seems like a lot of effort to me, but I don't criticise anyone who cooks for their dogs, so long as they give them both the meat and veggies they need.

 

[Henry V]

In the event that there are no shortages or anything when will we draw the line and say that this crisis is over?

 

[George Lucas]

I'm just glad the do-it-yourself dog food people aren't part of the "bones and raw meat" malarkey. Dogs are omnivores with very similar dietary requirements to humans.

Seems like a lot of effort to me, but I don't criticise anyone who cooks for their dogs, so long as they give them both the meat and veggies they need.

Do you have a source for that? Because dogs are just domesticated grey wolves, and grey wolves are indisputably carnivores.

I’ve never seen a dog eat vegetables willingly. They do eat fruit sometimes. People always talk about how the mix the veggies with meat, or season it slightly, or add a ‘topper’ or what not. If you have to entice your animal to eat something, to do something that it has a natural and mandatory instinctual compulsion to do, then is it really good for the dog in the first place?

Similar dietary requirements to humans? Dogs can’t cook. Humans mainly eat cooked meat and vegetables not just because it tastes good, but because it makes it more digestible. The stuff humans traditionally eat raw is fruit. Since we cook our meat, we don’t get much vitamins from it, thus we have to supplement with more plant matter. Since dogs (and all other non-human carnivores and omnivores) eat raw meat, they can get vitamins directly from meat. Anatomically there are a lot of differences, too. Dogs have a much shorter digestive tract. Sure, we have a similar set of nutrients we need, but you can say the same for cows. Do you really think cows and humans should eat the same type of food?

So dogs and humans both eat fruit. That’s about all the similarities our diets have.

Another point is to go look at what zoos and wild animal rescues feed their animals. It’s all fucking raw meat. There’s no wolf kibble or tiger kibble or fox kibble. Thankfully zookeepers still find the idea absurd.

But sure, go ahead and ignore 20 000 years of history because Purina probably sponsored some studies ‘proving’ dogs need a ‘balanced’ diet, and keep wondering why everyone’s dogs are fat and have rotting teeth.

 

[Sped Xing]

You're on the internet. You could look up cool facts about animals if you like.

 

[George Lucas]

You're on the internet. You could look up cool facts about animals if you like.

For those unaware, Sped Xing originally told me to use the internet to find out that wolves are in fact omnivores. The trouble is that all the search results will tell you that wolves are in fact carnivores. Having realized this, Sped Xing quickly edited his post to hide the fact that he is a complete retard, which makes him both a retard and a faggot.

 

[Frostnipped Todger]

Not wanting to derail further, but autism...
The explanation that I was given is that the majority of animals eaten by wolves and wild dogs are small herbivores. While wolves pulling down a Moose looks spectacular, the majority of their diet is mice/voles/rabbits etc, which are more-or-less devoured whole.
The small amount (I'm talking 20-30%) of vegetable matter my dog gets is mimicking the contents of the prey animal's gut, which does get eaten in most cases.
Of course, some may disagree, but my dog is in spectacular condition, and never seems to suffer from any issues relating to his diet.

 

[E. Knee as Weapon - Cont.]

My dog inhales kale and carrots. I'm not sure how the wolves feel about that but we didn't train this behavior into her.

 

[SCSI]

Both captive and wild wolves are documented to love fruit, especially watermelons of all things.

Spoiler: Wolf Diet Sperging

Mission Wolf (Wolf Sanctuary) Diet Notes:

Another thing most people do not immediately realize is that wolves and wolf-dogs will eat, and often enjoy, fruit. Many captive wolves and wolf-dogs have been known to go crazy for watermelon. We’ve even met a wolf that liked pineapple.

Captive wolves and wolf-dogs do well eating diets like those of wild wolves. Wild wolves survive on sporadic meals of deer, elk, moose, bison, and other natural prey. Even captive wolves and wolf-dogs are capable of, and benefit from, digesting pounds of raw meat. Their bodies do not need all of the carbohydrates and preservatives that are found in normal dog food. Raw, whole bones serve as a source of calcium and other vitamins, as well as strengthening teeth and jaws. Don’t worry about feeding your wolf-dog uncooked bones — it is only when bones are cooked that they become brittle and splinter. It can be difficult to find elk and bison to feed your wolf-dog, so you can rely on raw chicken, turkey, beef, etc. Pre-cooked or pre-seasoned meats, as well as pork and pork products, should not be fed to your animal, as they can cause many digestion issues. Don’t forget that your wolf-dog also needs access to fresh grass and vegetation to help with digestion.

Most captive wolf and wolf-dog sanctuaries have found that nutritional supplements help the animals stay healthy. In particular, glucosamine (for arthritis and stiffness), vitamin C (for infection and the immune system), fish oil (for skin and coat problems), vitamin A, B-complex, D and E (for various conditions), alfalfa and wheatgrass (for internal parasites), pumpkin (for digestion), and garlic (for internal and external parasites, as well as the immune system) are very helpful when needed. Any supplement can be administered as needed by inserting it into a small ball of ground meat.

Wolves raiding watermelon patches to eat the fruit:

In some areas of the former Soviet Union, wolves cause serious damage to watermelon plantations. Wolves will usually only take ripe melons after giving test bites, which can render even unripe fruits worthless for future consumption. Sometimes, up to 20% of the total watermelon crop can be destroyed on one raid.[23]

EDIT -- This needs video.

Wolves are skillful hunters, and large, hoofed ungulates like deer and elk are generally on the menu. But scientists increasingly recognize that these keystone predators have an exceptionally varied diet partaking in everything fish to fruit! The wolves living in Voyageurs National Park in Minnesota eat blueberries – lots of them! Researchers found that most wolves spend extended periods in July and August, during peak blueberry season, foraging in blueberry patches. Zephyr, Alawa, and Nikai don't have access to any blueberry patches at the Wolf Conservation Center, so we offered them something really big and juicy - watermelons! After all, what better way to beat the summer heat than with delicious watermelons? Just like us, a wolf's diet can be highly variable and constantly changing depending on the environment. And perhaps fruit may be more important to the wolves' diet than previously thought! The WCC, a 501c3 non-profit organization in South Salem, NY, is one of a network of facilities participating in the Mexican Wolf Species Survival Plan - a bi-national initiative whose primary purpose is to support the reestablishment of Mexican gray wolves in the wild through captive breeding, public education, and research. For more information about wolves and the WCC's participation in wolf recovery, please visit our website at www.nywolf.org.

 

[Sped Xing]

For those unaware, Sped Xing originally told me to use the internet to find out that wolves are in fact omnivores. The trouble is that all the search results will tell you that wolves are in fact carnivores. Having realized this, Sped Xing quickly edited his post to hide the fact that he is a complete exceptional individual, which makes him both an exceptional individual and a faggot.

I edited it to be funnier. Wolves absolutely eat plants.

As for your post, a quick explanation of what you're experiencing is available here.

 

[PyrrhicRustle]

Drug, feed ingredient shortages hit U.S. livestock producers

I am here to say this is true and it suuuuuucks so bad. I dropped by the feed store earlier and what little they had in the way of chicken feed was 50% more expensive than a month ago. Interestingly, most of the cat and dog food had 'Made in the USA' markings on it, and I would swear that included some brands I thought were made in China. I'm starting to wonder if China isn't making pet food anymore and that's why the shortages are so bad.

Canned pet food shortage causing woes among pet owners

To add to this a little, I was at the grocery store today and was looking at meats when I heard the woman behind the counter explaining to a customer that they didn't have any giblets or any organs, they kept putting in orders for it but not getting them fulfilled, and she thought it was pet food companies buying all of it up.

 

[Billy Beer]

Remember lads, Christmas items will take absolute priority when it comes to the supply chain, as this shit is manufactured in september/october and can ONLY BE SOLD in November/December, for obvious reasons.

Shelves may look full of shit over the next few weeks, but there will a lot of items that won't be stocked up in the warehouses because Santa and Elves take the first slots.

We may (I could be wrong and hope I am) see shit get really bad when the new year restock happens in January.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Asda has massively cut back on the variety of paper tissues they stock. All the pocket tissues are gone and most of the "man-sized" and fancy niche products have gone with them. The shelf is empty all the time now.

 

[Nique la mere de Macron]

Beyond basic goods if you're one who likes real Christmas trees (and don't cut them down yourself) I'd strongly recommend getting yours as soon as they go on sale this year. Chatting with the lot I buy from has indicated the supply is worse than last year (drought is compounding with the lower planting of saplings back in the early 2010s) and is being heavily exacerbated by the logistics clusterfuck and increased consumer interest. Oh and that's before including the floods in the Pacific northwest as well screwing with things.

The expectation is you won't be finding one in store by second week of December.

Spoiler: Christmas sadness

I just went to order mine for delivery in early December only to find that this year, the company I've ordered from for years is only delivering the taller trees to four departments (kind of like counties) in the entire country. Pas content.

 

[z0mb0]

I may be late with this one, and am sorry if so but what with it being the season for it and all the compounding factors that add to it has anyone else been hearing about the narcan shortage? More than a few emergency response teams have been reporting being down to very low amounts and are having increasing trouble finding more.

 

[Male Idiot]

So wolves loved fried chicken and watermelon, and are untrustworthy?

We wuz da Pack an shieeet.