Times when you have felt genuinely sorry for Chris

[Assistant Manajerk]

When Kacey called Patti a mangy, dirty dog. I know what she was getting at, she had a valid point, but the way Chris responded with a hurt, sheepish "She was not mangy" kinda got me in the feels. Sure losing a pet to old age is hardly the same as losing a grandmother to a terrorist attack, but still.

 

[Plarp]

Had he been born to younger parents, not only would’ve he probably not been as autistic (or not autistic at all as Borb’s advanced age was the contribution factor) but they would’ve seen that he got the ap

my dad was 39 and i feel the aspie genes very strongly in me... there is definitely a connection between older fathers and extreme autism.

your cum accumulates mutations as you age, the harder your lifestyle the more mutations, and those mutants end up wearing sonichu medallions and setting up tables at the local mall looking for boyfriend-free girls...

 

[Alpha Kennybody]

When hes talked about when patti the dog died. I doubt it was the best cared for dog in the world, but chris really did seem to love her.

this one pisses me off for a few reasons.

1) he lies and contradicts himself. He says he stayed with the dog until the end, but he also says he remember's patti's last barks as he walked out the room, saying "thank you chris chan for all the good times". Dogs know to associate a vet's with pain, because of the strange smells, the needles, and their owners being nervous. When Chris walked out that room, I guarantee Patti's barks weren't a thank you, but a terrified scream of "NO! PLEASE DON'T LEAVE ME!"

2) Chris did fuck all for that dog. Never walked it, giving them both exercise. It just stayed outside in a small pen and got pissed on by the elements. This is more Bob and Barb's fault, but still, it was no way for a dog to live.

3) Chris makes it about him. The sonichu smilie on the death certificate makes me want to slap him.

 

[cornycat]

Kacey is probably one of my least favourite pre-Idea Guys trolls outside of Bluespike and possibly Jackie. All the trolls created over-the-top characters of themselves, but Kacey really outdid herself. She billed herself as a smart, attractive, athletic, on the road to success woman who was just really into Sonichu. When in fact all she did was bitch at Chris and even Chris pointed out she was just as out of shape as he was which she gaslit him about. I am more inclined to believe that Clyde Cash was actually a multi-millionaire than I am that Kacey could beat Chris in a race let alone run the miles she claims to have. Maybe she's really cool irl and I'm being a douche for fat-shaming her but going for her trollsona, Chris must have been at a level of desperate few men have ever been.



I think the "just lower your standards bro" is a bit of a meme. Standards only can go so low until they get into like negative territories where the only retort is like "Sure I may be in a poly relationship with 3 other dudes and a ugly fat chick who is pregnant and we don't know who the father is, but at least I'm getting laid!". Prior to Chris fucking his mom, I had more respect for him than those guys from that video. Sometimes the ol' hand is preferable.

Besides Chris probably had the lowest of standards possible within the realms of normality. He went on like a friendly date with that really fat girl, went for Kacey, and eventually his imagination. Don't let the attraction signs fool you, Chris was willing to settle in those days.

Damn, fair point. Though I find it weird that he never found a woman. He's not so ugly to the point where he'd never get someone. Ive seen uglier guys get girls. I believe it was due to his internet fame and selfishness, but I believe if he just stuck it out instead of harassing women to immidiately be his girlfriend, he wouldve gotten a plain Jane to settle for him. I mean, hell, if he was nice enough and wasn't overbearing right off the bat and wasn't demanding, I think he could've actually had chances before his 20's-30's.

"On top of that, he has implied that if he does get married, all he'll do is stay home while his wife goes to work. He doesn't even plan on looking after the kids for her; he'd dump this responsibility on his old, ailing mother. This lack of maturity and inability to stand on his own two feet would be an instant turn-off to any woman" https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Sweetheart

I read this in his wiki, and he has no redeeming qualities. He just wants a bangmaid, it seems, which his mother technically fits the role of. Maybe he couldve been a normal house husband, if he actually applied it to himself. If he actually was willing to put in the same amount of effort he expected from girls back then, he couldve found someone who met a few of his requirements. I mean, I want a house husband bc I have a shit ton of money, but I would not want someone who just leeches off of me like Chris and does nothing. I'd expect him to actually put effort in. It's not only his autism that turned girls away, because I've seen girls date autistic guys, but it's the fact that he had emotional baggage, his mother, and would've not put any effort in. He wouldn't have to be in an open relationship, but realistically, what kind of female would be with him if not for sex (maybe for some fucked up kink of hers lol), when he brings nothing to the table? He shows that he would not even lift a finger to help. It sounds like he just wants a sex doll who talks and agrees without providing nothing, at that. I genuinely think his standards play a role in why he couldnt get a female. Sure, he can go for fat chicks, but did he put the same effort as them?

 

[axeltrite]

Chris genuinely has no redeeming factors. I feel pity for him only in that he has wasted his life coping by playing pretend instead of genuinely attempting to make a change in his life. I don't understand why so many cows would rather do that than change. At some point, the emotional weight of years of struggling to ignore your problems have to outweigh any energy spent changing them. Never learning the ability to change is something to be pitied.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

my dad was 39 and i feel the aspie genes very strongly in me... there is definitely a connection between older fathers and extreme autism.

They've found that there's a correlation of autism with age of the parents, but it tracks far closer to age of the mother than age of the father.

My best, and completely unscientific guess is that this is because the egg is the egg and that's all you get, but there's a million sperm fighting giving one last chance to weed out the more mutated ones.

i.e. old dad has an effect but old mom is an order of magnitude worse. Worst case is when both are old.

 

[StraightShooter2]

I feel sorry for him being born. By which I mean the exact circumstances of his birth, not that I would deny him being born in the first place. Bob and Barb were too fucking old to have kids; both physically and in their mindsets. They would’ve struggled with a normal kid let alone Chris’ special needs. Should’ve just settled down and enjoyed their autumn years together.

Had he been born to younger parents, not only would’ve he probably not been as autistic (or not autistic at all as Borb’s advanced age was the contribution factor) but they would’ve seen that he got the appropriate help during childhood.

I don't think it was just the birth circumstances - something basically tells me that Bob and Barb shelter Chris and encouraged him to never take any responsibility, just by the ways they acted whenever Chris was accused of bad behavior (e.x. blaming Michael Snyder when Chris got the boot from the Game Place for acting like an idiot, and accusing him and Megan of "conspiring against him with the trolls"). Maybe Barb was worse in that regard than Bob was, but I'm not sure.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

Chris however did both not have any experience of healthy relationships and has always been extremely lonely which would set even a neurotypical individual up for repeated abusive relationships.

You know I've wondered in the past if that was the biggest problem for Chris besides his other mental issues, or was at least some compounding factor.

He's never really had a Peer group that he could really connect with on a intellectual or social level after a certain point in his life and as such he's had a deep and profound sense of isolation even when he was around people and that's why he's made up imaginary friends and believes in Toon Town so vehemently because it gives him some sense of friendship with obviously fictional people who are the anthropomorphic personifications of his own ideas and interests, He's spent his whole life looking for connections with people but is always isolated from them because he hasn't got the cognitive intelligence or social intelligence to form a genuine friendship with them.

He's into media that is far too young for his chronological age, so he can't really make a friendship with people there.
He's to dumb to hold a conversation with normal people outside of his narrow and childish interests.
He's so isolated from people even at events where he can express his childish interests with other adults even close to his own age he plays make believe with his imaginary friends.
His social and intellectual ineptitude eventually leads to him wearing out his welcome at places and events he frequents, until it gets so bad he's forceable dismissed from them.

So he's so isolated from people that any hint at a connection socially to him is something he latches onto and wont let go of unless he's categorically told NO and even then he will always try and find a way of weaselling back in like he did with the Game Place on multiple occasions, or keep engaging with trolls time and time again even if he knew or suspected they where trolls, and it also explains why he reacts so negatively to rejection like he did with Schneider, and various other bans.

Chris is a Edge case, he's just functional enough that he can barely fend for himself without needing round the clock assistance but he's just dumb enough and socially inept he can't function in a wider social context for an extended length of time and that's where I feel sorry for him he's damned if he does and dammed if he doesn't, and he's doomed to spend the rest of his life isolated and alone more now than ever before.

 

[Dylan]

I feel sorry he's in jail. He needs to be out there with his mom's china.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

When Kacey called Patti a mangy, dirty dog. I know what she was getting at, she had a valid point, but the way Chris responded with a hurt, sheepish "She was not mangy" kinda got me in the feels. Sure losing a pet to old age is hardly the same as losing a grandmother to a terrorist attack, but still.

Bad condition of Patty and other pets of Chandlers was their fault.

Well, I feel some sadness when I think about how bad parents was Barb&Bob. In past it was possible to turn Chris into functioning adult, but his parents just screwed if up - if they just try to not making Chris a king of his own, shitty kingdom of escapism and sned him to school preparating for a simple job he was able to conduct it all will turn in very different way.

 

[FightenGnome]

Damn, fair point. Though I find it weird that he never found a woman. He's not so ugly to the point where he'd never get someone. Ive seen uglier guys get girls. I believe it was due to his internet fame and selfishness, but I believe if he just stuck it out instead of harassing women to immidiately be his girlfriend, he wouldve gotten a plain Jane to settle for him. I mean, hell, if he was nice enough and wasn't overbearing right off the bat and wasn't demanding, I think he could've actually had chances before his 20's-30's.

"On top of that, he has implied that if he does get married, all he'll do is stay home while his wife goes to work. He doesn't even plan on looking after the kids for her; he'd dump this responsibility on his old, ailing mother. This lack of maturity and inability to stand on his own two feet would be an instant turn-off to any woman" https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Sweetheart

I read this in his wiki, and he has no redeeming qualities. He just wants a bangmaid, it seems, which his mother technically fits the role of. Maybe he couldve been a normal house husband, if he actually applied it to himself. If he actually was willing to put in the same amount of effort he expected from girls back then, he couldve found someone who met a few of his requirements. I mean, I want a house husband bc I have a shit ton of money, but I would not want someone who just leeches off of me like Chris and does nothing. I'd expect him to actually put effort in. It's not only his autism that turned girls away, because I've seen girls date autistic guys, but it's the fact that he had emotional baggage, his mother, and would've not put any effort in. He wouldn't have to be in an open relationship, but realistically, what kind of female would be with him if not for sex (maybe for some fucked up kink of hers lol), when he brings nothing to the table? He shows that he would not even lift a finger to help. It sounds like he just wants a sex doll who talks and agrees without providing nothing, at that. I genuinely think his standards play a role in why he couldnt get a female. Sure, he can go for fat chicks, but did he put the same effort as them?

Other than the fat girl fay? I always forget her name, during Chris' night out, the only other moment I can recall in his Classic life that remotely sounds like a genuine situation he turned down was him at his university with his attraction sign and a black girl (or 2) asked him why he wouldn't go out with black women (and from the relaying of the situation, it seemed like an actual question and not something confrontational). Maybe he could have gone out with her?

I'm going to assume from your comment about wanting a house husband that you're a woman so the dating scene is completely different for women than it is for men and vice verse. Chris suffers from two problems a lot of guys face:

1. Never goes out
2. Doesn't have a large network of friends

so has no realistic way of meeting women. On top of that, I believe Chris' failings on an interpersonal level fall into the category of shit women won't even give a guy like him a shot let alone know a enough about his personal life to be turned off. Chris is soft spoken, chubby, of average height, wears awful clothes, and probably more importantly, reportedly disrespectful; he's eager to get touchy or stare at assets a woman has.

Other than that though, I'm willing to be a bit of a lawyer in Classic Chris' (any woman willing to date him now must be out of her mind XD) favor in regard to his dating standards.

What it boiled down to standards-wise for Chris was a self-reliant woman who was roughly his age or younger and not African-American that would tolerate him in her life. I really don't think he ever was asking for much. The thing is most women do HAVE better options than Chris even if it's short-term, and so would be unlikely to waste their time with him unless he did make some superficial change.

However no matter what change he made, that would only get him into and at best through the first date. Once she finds out more about him, she's likely to move on unless she's some sort of secret ultra dominatrix who for some reason wanted just Chris and was going to crack her whip and make him change his life to suit her needs. Again though, most women have better options.

 

[Eggwhore]

my dad was 39 and i feel the aspie genes very strongly in me... there is definitely a connection between older fathers and extreme autism.

your cum accumulates mutations as you age, the harder your lifestyle the more mutations, and those mutants end up wearing sonichu medallions and setting up tables at the local mall looking for boyfriend-free girls...

my theory is that awkward aspie men get married later in life than their normie counterparts due to being late bloomers so they end up having autistic kids. the age is correlational

 

[Chazzed Up]

Reading through so many of Chris' interactions with trolls I keep asking myself why he never hung up or left the chats. And my conclusion is that he was likely just so desperate for social interaction, relationships and some sense of belonging that he persevered.

I definitely don't think it was that he enjoyed the attention, and I highly doubt that he actually _consciously reasoned_ like I'm describing it. But even a severely autistic person would know not to take abuse from a potential or actual love interest/friend/partner. Chris however did both not have any experience of healthy relationships and has always been extremely lonely which would set even a neurotypical individual up for repeated abusive relationships.

The fact that certain (far from all) trolls took advantage of that desperation to hurt Chris and break him down stings. A lot.

I've seen this exact thing going on for many years with another cow, and it is definitely not just loneliness but also a desire for narcissistic ego fulfillment. From the very start of his internet debut, Chris was looking for "fans" or for a sexual partner, not friends or a social group. He never showed interest in a group of friends online that wasn’t either related to Sonichu or getting a girlfriend. It's not surprising he would persist in many of these troll situations because he is too vain to take an L and just leave. Liquid had an easy time manipulating Chris precisely because Chris is reeled in by any situation where his ego is in jeopardy.

On top of that, I believe Chris' failings on an interpersonal level fall into the category of shit women won't even give a guy like him a shot let alone know a enough about his personal life to be turned off. Chris is soft spoken, chubby, of average height, wears awful clothes, and probably more importantly, reportedly disrespectful; he's eager to get touchy or stare at assets a woman has.

Why are women who don't give him a chance shit? It's not merely his physical appearance that puts people off him, hell Elliot Rodger used to rage all the time about below average men with hot girlfriends. Chris lacks hygiene, can't carry on a conversation about normal topics, and most people will be able to sense he isn't right in the head. Anyone avoiding him was right as his narcissism and lack of real empathy eventually led him to violate his own mother.

 

[cornycat]

Other than the fat girl fay? I always forget her name, during Chris' night out, the only other moment I can recall in his Classic life that remotely sounds like a genuine situation he turned down was him at his university with his attraction sign and a black girl (or 2) asked him why he wouldn't go out with black women (and from the relaying of the situation, it seemed like an actual question and not something confrontational). Maybe he could have gone out with her?

I'm going to assume from your comment about wanting a house husband that you're a woman so the dating scene is completely different for women than it is for men and vice verse. Chris suffers from two problems a lot of guys face:

1. Never goes out
2. Doesn't have a large network of friends

so has no realistic way of meeting women. On top of that, I believe Chris' failings on an interpersonal level fall into the category of shit women won't even give a guy like him a shot let alone know a enough about his personal life to be turned off. Chris is soft spoken, chubby, of average height, wears awful clothes, and probably more importantly, reportedly disrespectful; he's eager to get touchy or stare at assets a woman has.

Other than that though, I'm willing to be a bit of a lawyer in Classic Chris' (any woman willing to date him now must be out of her mind XD) favor in regard to his dating standards.

What it boiled down to standards-wise for Chris was a self-reliant woman who was roughly his age or younger and not African-American that would tolerate him in her life. I really don't think he ever was asking for much. The thing is most women do HAVE better options than Chris even if it's short-term, and so would be unlikely to waste their time with him unless he did make some superficial change.

However no matter what change he made, that would only get him into and at best through the first date. Once she finds out more about him, she's likely to move on unless she's some sort of secret ultra dominatrix who for some reason wanted just Chris and was going to crack her whip and make him change his life to suit her needs. Again though, most women have better options.

Yeah, fair point. I like shorter guys and I don't care about weight. I guess it's because I'm against superficiality as to why I never factored his looks, but I guess it's fair to say that it's mainly his psychological problems. I mean, Chris is autistic. He could find another autistic girl, felt like it wouldve been easier.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

Chris is autistic. He could find another autistic girl, felt like it wouldve been easier.

Generally, during his love quest, Chris wouldn't want a girl to an autist like himself. Other than He didn't want a woman like himself, or maybe Chris thought that two autistic people could produce an autistic child (remember, he solely wanted a woman so that he can have a daughter). He came close to the wallflower and Fiona (both are autistic), but even the wallflower, like other women did not want a relationship right away, and unfortunately for Chris, ruined that.

 

[silentium]

I've seen this exact thing going on for many years with another cow, and it is definitely not just loneliness but also a desire for narcissistic ego fulfillment. From the very start of his internet debut, Chris was looking for "fans" or for a sexual partner, not friends or a social group. He never showed interest in a group of friends online that wasn’t either related to Sonichu or getting a girlfriend. It's not surprising he would persist in many of these troll situations because he is too vain to take an L and just leave. Liquid had an easy time manipulating Chris precisely because Chris is reeled in by any situation where his ego is in jeopardy.

I agree with you with regards to a lot of trolls like the miscreants, but things like the Julie reveals herself call or the Liquid and Kacey call? There wasn't any ego fulfillment to gain in those situations - Chris was just relentlessly abused and there was absolutely nothing good that could've come from staying in the conversation, yet he did. Only explanation in both of these cases is that he genuinely believed that Julie was real somehow, and that Kacey would come around to him again. SOMEHOW

Idea Guys are very similar in that aspect. He definitely did and most likely still does consider them as friends despite all the damage they did to him

 

[Hepativore]

I came pretty late to the party on this one since I did not pay that much attention to Chris until relatively recently; mostly since his arrest for incest with his mother.

In looking at the Chris Chan saga, I did think that many trolls did go a bit too far, particularly the Bluespike episode as well as what the Idea Guys pulled. I guess "kick the autist" got old quickly for me, so I have had only a passing interest in that aspect of the Chris story.

Still, I find Chris fascinating in the sense that you get glimmers of somebody who occasionally can be rational or has some degree of introspection yet it is quickly undone by him then immediately doing something stupid or self-defeating. Null did his best to help him, and we saw how Chris can be surprisingly competent when he really wants something like how he raised money to go to Ever free Northwest. Then the incest arrest happened and all of the time and effort Null invested in Chris as well as Chris' fundraising efforts all came to nothing. Chris basically threw it all away right then and there for something both heinous and stomach-turning.

So, I do think that Chris has suffered and did not deserve being hounded by trolls constantly but he also never learned not to feed them or make himself a target. I do think that he would have been capable of leading a mostly-normal life had he not been so psychologically and emotionally stunted in his upbringing and circumstances that have nothing to do with autism. Even his fantasies regarding Sonichu, CWCville, and the Merging strike me less as something that he really does believe and more like a years-long game of "Let's Pretend" because reality confuses the hell out of him and that is his way of coping as he never learned how to function in reality properly.

That being said, nothing excuses what he did to Barb and I do not know what can be done with somebody like Chris. He is almost 40, and I think that any attempts at counselling or trying to make him into a functional person would be too little, too late. While I do not have the deep-seated hatred of Chris like some people do, I think that the best thing that he can hope for as well as everybody else is if he spends the rest of his days medicated into placidity within a supervised setting for people who need to be lifelong state wards. I do not want him to suffer, but I do think that he needs to be kept under control for the rest of his life, albeit humanely, if possible.

Anyway, I am paying attention to his legal saga out of genuine curiousity as to what is going to happen to somebody like him.

 

[Chazzed Up]

I agree with you with regards to a lot of trolls like the miscreants, but things like the Julie reveals herself call or the Liquid and Kacey call? There wasn't any ego fulfillment to gain in those situations - Chris was just relentlessly abused and there was absolutely nothing good that could've come from staying in the conversation, yet he did. Only explanation in both of these cases is that he genuinely believed that Julie was real somehow, and that Kacey would come around to him again. SOMEHOW

Idea Guys are very similar in that aspect. He definitely did and most likely still does consider them as friends despite all the damage they did to him

Lorne Armstrong has done the same thing for years though. I think you underestimate the lengths that egotistical retards will go to in order to feel important or relevant. I am not sure they even perceive it as abuse which isn't surprising considering they don't comprehend their own abusive actions towards others either. Chris doesn't think about whether anything good comes out of what he does, otherwise he wouldn't be where he is now.

 

[catmasterj]

Lorne Armstrong has done the same thing for years though. I think you underestimate the lengths that egotistical retards will go to in order to feel important or relevant. I am not sure they even perceive it as abuse which isn't surprising considering they don't comprehend their own abusive actions towards others either. Chris doesn't think about whether anything good comes out of what he does, otherwise he wouldn't be where he is now.

I see you are also versed in TCAP.

I would imagine Chris being caught in a sting.

I felt sorry for Chris when he found out about blue spike. But he probably deserved that

 

[Mister Mint]

Up until the most recent saga my reaction to nearly every moment in Chris's life has been to feel bad, and then an instant later he says or does something that makes me retract that sympathy entirely.
He's the empathy equivalent of Lucy forever placing down and subsequently pulling away the football.