Dr. Who

[Flexo]

Welcome to Stargate's Replicators. At first they were these interesting self-repairing spider constructs that were virtually indestructible. But as time went on, their origin had them created by some advanced alien girl who wanted to protect herself with her toys, and eventually they evolved into a human facsimile.

Boring as shit. Just keep it simple.

Wait... what?

I thought it was revealed they were originally made by the ancients to fight the space vampires. Which is about the ONLY possible acceptable origin for them. Did they somehow make it worse???

 

[That Chris Guy]

Wait... what?

I thought it was revealed they were originally made by the ancients to fight the space vampires. Which is about the ONLY possible acceptable origin for them. Did they somehow make it worse???

According to @Radola Gajda , their origin story was retconned in Atlantis (which I haven't seen all of admittedly), but SG-1's first real episode on Replicator origins had them made as a toy by an alien girl, who then used them to protect herself.

Still, I didn't like that their final form was becoming human mockups. It felt like a lame reason not to think up a more unique outcome, when the original design was more intimidating. I got a bigger kick out of watching the SG team flee from indestructible block-spiders than when they sat down to have a conversation with them. They were much better as a force that couldn't be understood when every other major race was sentient and open to dialogue.

 

[Miller]

According to @Radola Gajda , their origin story was retconned in Atlantis (which I haven't seen all of admittedly), but SG-1's first real episode on Replicator origins had them made as a toy by an alien girl, who then used them to protect herself.

I haven't watched that SG-1 episode in a long time but wasn't it implied that she was a humanoid replicator?

 

[Kerr Avon]

I haven't watched that SG-1 episode in a long time but wasn't it implied that she was a humanoid replicator?

No. Just some kind of android.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

According to @Radola Gajda , their origin story was retconned in Atlantis (which I haven't seen all of admittedly), but SG-1's first real episode on Replicator origins had them made as a toy by an alien girl, who then used them to protect herself.

If memory serves, the Milky Way and Pegasus replicators were independent developments of the same idea: the former were created by the android Reese as toys that went horribly wrong, while the latter were developed by the Ancients as soldiers made of NANOMACHINES, SON! that proceeded to blow up in their faces like so many of their galaxy-brain ideas.

Which makes some sense, given that the Pegasus replicators were complete crap compared to their Milky Way counterparts. They got rekt on their home turf halfway through Season 3, while the Milky Way ones were an existential threat up until the end of good SG-1 (seasons 9 and 10 never happened, don't @ me.)

Still, I didn't like that their final form was becoming human mockups. It felt like a lame reason not to think up a more unique outcome, when the original design was more intimidating. I got a bigger kick out of watching the SG team flee from indestructible block-spiders than when they sat down to have a conversation with them. They were much better as a force that couldn't be understood when every other major race was sentient and open to dialogue.

I think they went with that for the same reason Star Trek went with the Borg Queen: there's only do much mileage you can get out of an antagonist with literally no personality.

 

[The Lawgiver]

Reminder one of the king kong movies had Doctor who in it and that movie is infinitely better than current actual doctor who despite being fucking weird shit and definitely fringing on the "quasi-legal" ground of inclusions. See, he's not the first doctor from the series doctor who and the chick he's with isn't his granddaughter but they're both dressed like them and he's named doctor who while looking like doctor who. They specifically got a guy that looks like an asian william hartnell to play him shits wild but totally just a "coincidence" wink wink nudge nudge.

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

Found this image while trying to find Capaldi’s name.

As far as I’m concerned Matt Smith was the last good Doctor, and even then I feel it was a bit messy especially later on in his run.

If I were going to retcon the series I would go back to Matt’s era of who and end it with the River Song story and then transition into a more traditional run for Peter Capaldi who I felt got really shafted by the writers. After that I wouldn’t mind having a woman take the role again, however I feel that it would be important not to make it political. I want a female Doctor because it’s an interesting idea to explore not because I give a fuck about representation for women. I don’t think politics belong in Doctor Who.

Another thing I would do is try to get different New Who actors in for solo stand alone episodes that take place during their respective eras. This way we could get more of older Doctors.

 

[Flexo]

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Found this image while trying to find Capaldi’s name.

As far as I’m concerned Matt Smith was the last good Doctor, and even then I feel it was a bit messy especially later on in his run.

If I were going to retcon the series I would go back to Matt’s era of who and end it with the River Song story and then transition into a more traditional run for Peter Capaldi who I felt got really shafted by the writers. After that I wouldn’t mind having a woman take the role again, however I feel that it would be important not to make it political. I want a female Doctor because it’s an interesting idea to explore not because I give a fuck about representation for women. I don’t think politics belong in Doctor Who.

Another thing I would do is try to get different New Who actors in for solo stand alone episodes that take place during their respective eras. This way we could get more of older Doctors.

I know nobody cares about the robot's opinion but until your dying day I will insist that the female "doctor" should have been Susan "inheriting" the TARDIS and having adventures on a quest to find her grandfather.

 

[starborn427614]

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Found this image while trying to find Capaldi’s name.

As far as I’m concerned Matt Smith was the last good Doctor, and even then I feel it was a bit messy especially later on in his run.

If I were going to retcon the series I would go back to Matt’s era of who and end it with the River Song story and then transition into a more traditional run for Peter Capaldi who I felt got really shafted by the writers. After that I wouldn’t mind having a woman take the role again, however I feel that it would be important not to make it political. I want a female Doctor because it’s an interesting idea to explore not because I give a fuck about representation for women. I don’t think politics belong in Doctor Who.

Another thing I would do is try to get different New Who actors in for solo stand alone episodes that take place during their respective eras. This way we could get more of older Doctors.

I wouldn't trade Peter for anything. Even with him being shafted by the scripts we still got Heaven Sent out of it which basically towers over all of Nu-Who as one of the better episodes. Eccelston has Dalek, Tennant has the Family of Blood two parter, Smith has...Vincent's episode I guess? and Jodie. Anyway 12 is the best.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

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Found this image while trying to find Capaldi’s name.

As far as I’m concerned Matt Smith was the last good Doctor, and even then I feel it was a bit messy especially later on in his run.

If I were going to retcon the series I would go back to Matt’s era of who and end it with the River Song story and then transition into a more traditional run for Peter Capaldi who I felt got really shafted by the writers. After that I wouldn’t mind having a woman take the role again, however I feel that it would be important not to make it political. I want a female Doctor because it’s an interesting idea to explore not because I give a fuck about representation for women. I don’t think politics belong in Doctor Who.

Another thing I would do is try to get different New Who actors in for solo stand alone episodes that take place during their respective eras. This way we could get more of older Doctors.

There's already a show about a time travelling bimbo called Outlander. No need to ruin Doctor Who trying to make a female doctor work for a second time. Thanks.

 

[The 3rd Hooligan]

Michael Sheen would be amazing as 14, but I can't see them casting him for some reason. He's not a Tennant or Smith, he's already high profile.

Have meta-ten be a companion and you will score all the good omens fandom, -bring back lusty young women *wheeze*
I wish for him to be a next doc, he has fun energy to him. But as you said high profile.

 

[The Valeyard]

My friend texted me after this week's episode saying it was "actually good" but added "Pity that it was hinged on the Timeless Child", as the cliffhanger has the Doctor being recalled by The Division.

 

[UnKillFill]

I feel bad for ever thinking that Peter Davison was the worst Doctor. (Admittedly it wasn't any time recently.) I know a lot of you disagree, but up until Jodie, he was my least favorite.

 

[UnKillFill]

The Caves of Androzani was really good by the way, I just think it was a bit overrated.
5 was a massive bitch for literally all of his run, the least they could for him was give him a good sendoff.

It took Sixie almost 3 decades to get a decent send off...

 

[Mr. 0]

The Caves of Androzani was really good by the way, I just think it was a bit overrated.
5 was a massive bitch for literally all of his run, the least they could for him was give him a good sendoff.

It took Sixie almost 3 decades to get a decent send off...

it was john nathan-turner and michael grade and their homo adventures bla bla bla

 

[Standardized Profile]

My friend texted me after this week's episode saying it was "actually good" but added "Pity that it was hinged on the Timeless Child", as the cliffhanger has the Doctor being recalled by The Division.

I haven't watched this show in years and don't know what's going on, but if the Doctor turns into a Weeping Angel, is that like a tacit acknowledgement that anyone who does watch the show only gets a frozen, dead facsimile of the Doctor? And the only way for the Doctor to come to life is for everyone to look away, to stop watching?

 

[The Valeyard]

I haven't watched this show in years and don't know what's going on, but if the Doctor turns into a Weeping Angel, is that like a tacit acknowledgement that anyone who does watch the show only gets a frozen, dead facsimile of the Doctor? And the only way for the Doctor to come to life is for everyone to look away, to stop watching?

It was only temporary to transport the Doctor to Division, where the show doubles down on The Timeless Child by having her meet Tecteun who confirms that the Master was telling the truth, and has the Doctor’s pre-Hartnell memories stored in a fobwatch.

 

[The Lawgiver]

My friend texted me after this week's episode saying it was "actually good" but added "Pity that it was hinged on the Timeless Child", as the cliffhanger has the Doctor being recalled by The Division.

It's never stopped bothering me how the OG concept of the weeping angels has been so fucked to hell and back at this point. The original premise was that they were humanoid aliens that weren't statues but had freaky time dilation shit going on with them where as long as something is looking at them they're frozen at the point they were at. Hence the appearance of a sad angel statue. The "crying" was less a gimmick and more a way to stop themselves from locking each other into stasis permanently. that combined with the fact they don't actually kill you but RNG temporally displace you also had it's own kind of "fate worse than death" horror vibe about it. You could still fucking die but that wouldn't matter, the point is the solen potential from that feeds them. Nothing other than their initial appearance really made good use of that which is kinda sad really. Instead they just keep retconning and adding on bullshit and also now they actually are just statue people. Sure it's kind of a cool effect but like contrast this with shit from over a decade ago before the retconny "male timelords can become women too but doctor isn't timelord but super special timeless child god being" madness took hold. They're now tools of timelords? why? How the fuck do people become weeping angels now when it's supposed to be like a whole entire other alien race?

 

[Wisteria]

It's never stopped bothering me how the OG concept of the weeping angels has been so fucked to hell and back at this point. The original premise was that they were humanoid aliens that weren't statues but had freaky time dilation shit going on with them where as long as something is looking at them they're frozen at the point they were at. Hence the appearance of a sad angel statue. The "crying" was less a gimmick and more a way to stop themselves from locking each other into stasis permanently. that combined with the fact they don't actually kill you but RNG temporally displace you also had it's own kind of "fate worse than death" horror vibe about it. You could still fucking die but that wouldn't matter, the point is the solen potential from that feeds them. Nothing other than their initial appearance really made good use of that which is kinda sad really. Instead they just keep retconning and adding on bullshit and also now they actually are just statue people. Sure it's kind of a cool effect but like contrast this with shit from over a decade ago before the retconny "male timelords can become women too but doctor isn't timelord but super special timeless child god being" madness took hold. They're now tools of timelords? why? How the fuck do people become weeping angels now when it's supposed to be like a whole entire other alien race?

I mostly agree with you, but, to be fair, I'm pretty sure that The End of Time referenced weeping angels being a tool of the Time Lords, and that was over a decade ago.

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If I were going to retcon the series I would go back to Matt’s era of who and end it with the River Song story and then transition into a more traditional run for Peter Capaldi who I felt got really shafted by the writers. After that I wouldn’t mind having a woman take the role again, however I feel that it would be important not to make it political. I want a female Doctor because it’s an interesting idea to explore not because I give a fuck about representation for women. I don’t think politics belong in Doctor Who.

I'd have rebooted things after the 50th anniversary special. Have Clara-clones appear multiple times throughout Series 6, then have Clara herself die permanently in The Name of the Doctor. The 50th anniversary special is then just the various Doctors dealing with the ramifications of the Time War. Have the war be overwritten by the Doctors' actions, or have it tragically exist forever as a fixed point in time—I don't fucking care. The point is that you could then do a soft reboot of the show immediately afterwards. Preferably with Peter Capaldi as the Doctor, and some fit young girl/guy as the companion.

 

[The Lawgiver]

I mostly agree with you, but, to be fair, I'm pretty sure that The End of Time referenced weeping angels being a tool of the Time Lords, and that was over a decade ago.

EDIT:

I'd have rebooted things after the 50th anniversary special. Have Clara-clones appear multiple times throughout Series 6, then have Clara herself die permanently in The Name of the Doctor. The 50th anniversary special is then just the various Doctors dealing with the ramifications of the Time War. Have the war be overwritten by the Doctors' actions, or have it tragically exist forever as a fixed point in time—I don't fucking care. The point is that you could then do a soft reboot of the show immediately afterwards. Preferably with Peter Capaldi as the Doctor, and some fit young girl/guy as the companion.

I don't even remember weeping angels being so much as mentioned in end of time. That was the one about the master's drumming being revealed to be the timelords trying to break out of the timewar timeloop hell shit using him as a sort of beacon.
It was also kinda shit but had funny moments like this.

Also had a kinda redemption/death thing with the master that ended up being undone with the "missy" thing.
You know, despite the fact that it's implied he became a crazy glow in the dark cannibal.