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[Obie]

Hard Data Shows the Covid Vaccines Don’t Work

The last several months have seen a heated debate about the effectiveness of the vaccines that are being currently administered against Covid-19. The question on many people’s minds is: Do these pharmaceuticals work? Both sides tend to fe...

www.americanthinker.com

 

[Gestalt Writhe]

Hard Data Shows the Covid Vaccines Don’t Work

The last several months have seen a heated debate about the effectiveness of the vaccines that are being currently administered against Covid-19. The question on many people’s minds is: Do these pharmaceuticals work? Both sides tend to fe...

www.americanthinker.com

Weird, they left out the death chart.

It's weird when people argue against WHO and CDC claims that the vaccines prevent transmission, as if those organizations had any objectives outside of "keep the plebs working" and "make China look good"

 

[Yuri_]

Weird, they left out the death chart.

Yeah, they should have added it in. It only reinforces the idea that the vax is dogshit.

It doesn't prove that the vaxx is lowering the heckin death rate, but it does suggest that somebody is fudging their statistics. Either the asians are lying about their death rate -- the one that has remained mostly proportional to their cases through the entire pandemic, OR western waitos are lying out the ass about theirs. Given that the west is complete trash nowadays, and it's run by nothing but scheming faggot globalists, I'm going to trust the asian data over ours (especially over the eternal angl* data).

 

[Gestalt Writhe]

Yeah, they should have added it in. It only reinforces the idea that the vax is dogshit.

It doesn't prove that the vaxx is lowering the heckin death rate, but it does suggest that somebody is fudging their statistics. Either the asians are lying about their death rate -- the one that has remained mostly proportional to their cases through the entire pandemic, OR western waitos are lying out the ass about theirs. Given that the west is complete trash nowadays, and it's run by nothing but scheming faggot globalists, I'm going to trust the asian data over ours (especially over the eternal angl* data).


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Good call- I actually just looked up Gibraltar and stopped there. They saw no corresponding increase in deaths.

As a fully-vaxxed faglord, I maintain that this may be an indication that Omicron is already >everywhere<, escaping vaccine protection, and proving to be lethal instead of the "mild" variant evolution promises us, but I won't begrudge anyone their theories to the contrary.

 

[Bibendum]

Unfortunately some of us noncoompliers cannot avoid conducting some indoor business in a certain shithole city. So if there are any master shoopers ITT who wouldn't mind PMing me, I have some hypothetical questions.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Over in the MovieBob thread, a chart was brought up that seems to claim it's a "dangerous conspiracy" to believe that the coof is anything but natural:

(the use of the common woke phrase "marginalized groups" should be a sign of BS)

>"the coof is 110% natural and came from bats!"
>"this virus is unlike anything we've ever seen before!"
>"no proof of animal reservoirs!"

Good call- I actually just looked up Gibraltar and stopped there. They saw no corresponding increase in deaths.

As a fully-vaxxed faglord, I maintain that this may be an indication that Omicron is already >everywhere<, escaping vaccine protection, and proving to be lethal instead of the "mild" variant evolution promises us, but I won't begrudge anyone their theories to the contrary.

If there is no corresponding increase in deaths, then how do you reckon its more lethal?

 

[Gestalt Writhe]

If there is no corresponding increase in deaths, then how do you reckon its more lethal?

Dude posted charts showing corresponding increases in deaths in the east and proposed that the west may be fudging their numbers. That would jive with Omicron being more lethal if it were already present in those statistics and if you don't reject dude's premise concerning the West's fudging of deaths.

My logic, albeit possibly founded on pozz'd data, is consistent.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

Would anyone who reads this thread regularly be shocked if it turned out they were fudging the death statistics? I would hope not at this point.

 

[TextSurfer]

Translation from legalese -- This bill would allow the state to require you to take whatever medication/treatment they specified, in front of an observer.

Maybe I'm being a moron or my language skills are lacking but doesn't that little nugget mean that they can force-vax you in those camps?

So, basically do everything these pesky conspiracy nuts have said since March 2020?

 

[trailcamwhore]

do these companies have the right to probe you over your reasoning?

By precedent they don't have the lawful right to inquire past your refusal, but to resist their inquiries you'll have to sue, and they're betting you can't afford that and/or you're gonna lose. America is pretty much post-legal now, so they're probably right. If I got a vaxx demand, I'd say "I'm a Jew" and stop talking. Nobody knows what Jews really believe, and they know they're related to lawyers.

 

[Gorilla Tessellator]

Did you hear about the guy who was on his deathbed in hospital with COVID and got saved by Ivermectin? I know that IVM is supposed to be given early, but in his case it clearly helped.

The story is horrific though, his daughter had to fight in court to get him the drug, because the hospital refused:
I have a link from ZeroHedge, I know, I know, but it seems legit: sauce

 

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Ginger cats are more likely to cause allergic reactions than other cats.

I'm sorry what were we talking about? I seem to have gone off tangent and ignored the original point of people needing emergency medical care in sports stadiums, two games, two people.

My bad.

Having worked at a smaller stadium before, one of the elements of our training for the BIG events, the ones that would pack the stadium, is to not be surprised or freaked out about people needing emergency medical care. You get 10-20 thousand people together and you almost assuredly will have multiple medical emergencies, and often those medical emergencies would be fatalities or near fatalities.

It's not to deny you your point -- it's weird seeing this shit and I definitely think things are going on. But it's also something they specifically train the staff for.

For the record, every time we had a concert that filled the stadium we had 1-2 ambulance visits, often after escorting someone to a medical room for any treatment we could provide.

Did you hear about the guy who was on his deathbed in hospital with COVID and got saved by Ivermectin? I know that IVM is supposed to be given early, but in his case it clearly helped.

The story is horrific though, his daughter had to fight in court to get him the drug, because the hospital refused:
I have a link from ZeroHedge, I know, I know, but it seems legit: sauce

FYI, the reason the hospitals won't do this, even though they're allowed to? If they use an off-label treatment like IVM for COVID19 they lose either insurance or federal grant money. Forget which, but it's a major MAJOR financial incentive to not do it, to the point that they often literally can't and remain in business.

Guess who is in charge of which hospitals and doctors get Federal Grant Money?

Edit: Fuck Xenfolio and their IMG bug

 

[Gestalt Writhe]

Last thought on COVID/Omicron for the night:

I thought the shit was going to hit the fan in July this year following the CDC leak about breakthrough infections. The market didn't blink.

Look what the market is doing now. Money knows.

(lol buy the dip)

 

[Protistology]

mfw I'm a pureblood in 2021

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

I think it's like the military where instead of asking you about the intricacies of your wiccan beliefs or whatever,

They just slam the needle in your butt

And tell you to stop being a faggot

The US Military wasn’t like that even 20 years ago. You had to sign a waiver back when they were asking soldiers to take the experimental anthrax vaccine. You heard me correctly. They ASKED. They didn’t order you. That was 20 years ago. I guarantee you they’ve only gotten softer in the last 20 years so there’s nobody slamming needles in anyone’s butts and if you called anyone a faggot you’d probably end up with non-judicial punishment and a whole bunch of diversity retraining.

 

[Alter Ego]

 

[Random Internet Person]

They got everything under control and going their way.

 

[Puff]

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[TheTrumanShow]

The way the government, outside of just saying "mandatory vaccines by law", will push the vaccine is to make life for the unvaccinated near impossible to live. The pushback should be to make life for the vaccinated/branch covidians a nightmare as well.

I mentioned elsewhere that the government where I am previously made it mandatory to wear a mask whenever you went outside your home at the height of covid in 2020 or risk getting fined, but then about 4-5 months ago made it so that you didn't have to if you had the jabs. The police were given the power to stop anyone not wearing a mask outside and demand to see vax papers, and failure to produce would result in a fine. This lead to them harassing old ladies, which pissed locals off. Next thing they knew they were either getting knifed or beaten to the point of hospitalisation, or being refused service at bars/pubs. 2 of them even tried doing this to a restaurant full of people nearby a pier and they got dumped off the pier into the sea. The rule is technically still in place (I think), but unsurprisingly, no one enforces it, and everyone walks outside without a mask. No cop is going to harass someone over the mask when every time they do they risk getting stabbed or have that encounter turn violent, or risk being made out as the "harassing cop" and be turned away from service in the area.

So yeah, they should make life difficult for these people, especially the politicians if they can get away with it. It's only doing to them what they want to do to the unvaccinated.

That works in smaller towns and rural communities and even then only maybe.

It doesn't work in cities because the police can direct their actions with a bigger concentration of force, because you don't know who the hell is in the police force when they wear their darth-wader masks and even if they didn't wear them there's still too many to keep track off.

Attacking the entire police force is more akin to calling for a revolution and that just ain't the mood yet-

 

[TheTrumanShow]

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I hate the EU so much

it's probably more reasonable than total lockdowns. The "only" issue is that the vaccines stil aren't (despite the widest testing in the history of mankind) guaranteed by the pharma companies and still operate under emergency measures and aren't approved by the FDA in the US or the EMA equivalent in the EU.

If these companies are willing to take multi-billion-dollar-lawsuits instead of shovelling everything on the taxpayer as it is now in the EU then I'd be super thrilled. It would mean some cold-calculated-mofo's up in the chain of command of these reptilian mega-corps figured it's worth it. And these people care as much about their monies as I care about my life.

Heck, let's be frank, maybe more.


It's really problematic if they start forcing people to be injected with something that isn't approved by the government or in other terms by the corporation itself. Who is to blame then? Who bares responsibility? What institution?

Just the elected officials that hold legislative and executive power, are changed every 4 or so years and have legal immunity? Fuck that's a scary thought.



Also this article literally says "Big cots, Few Benefits" for approval:

Why Aren’t the Vaccines Approved?

The F.D.A. is encouraging people to get a Covid-19 shot — but hasn’t formally approved those vaccines.

www.nytimes.com

Guess for who? The mother fucking FDA.
They are dodging us because they don't want to risk quote "— Americans would not react by feeling confident in the F.D.A.".
Probably the same for the EMA.


Yeah fuck our governments.


edit. An other article I found that I won't even link to because it's so full of horse-shit is that "they lack data".
The whole world has ,literally, been a test-bed for these vaccines. They are telling the public to trust them but still can't form a conclusion on the vaccines themselves.

Let alone that they seem very inefficient at handling the new mutations coming all the time, so its not only a question of if they are safe but if they have a significant enough impact at this point to warrant enforcement.