Jim Sterling / James "Stephanie" Sterling / James Stanton/Sexton & in memoriam TotalBiscuit (John Bain) - One Gaming Lolcow Thread

You know, YouTube should have a thing where you can hit a button, and if you haven't watched any of the last 5 uploads from a channel or they haven't released any videos in X time it pulls up a list of them for a mass unsub. I'd also like a way to bulk unsub just in general. Clean up my feeds and my sub list easier. I'd love to see what Jim's channel would look like after a thing, or if YouTube just set all accounts that haven't been active in X amount of time to inactive and stopped counting them towards the count. Subs, at this point in time, are meaningless due to how many dead subs there are, or just how annoying it is to clean out your subscriptions list.
They should but never will, it's a potential landmine for ad revenue and investors. I barely use core YouTube functionality such as "subscriptions" or "notifications" and typically just view what other people embed as interesting in places I frequent. If I ever subbed to something and then neglected the platform, it would show I don't care. I don't matter, but if 6-7 digit figures of people show a lack of interest and mass auto-unsub across the platform, 3rd party data miners will find out and the people who buy ads/pay youtube for things will lose confidence and withhold money.
 
I'm not sure what I'm meant to take away from this beyond that Jim wants the big gaming news outlets to shoot themselves in the foot because of muh ethics and shitty corporate culture. It is funny he actually told people to unsub because they're sick of him beating the dead horse though.
"we need ethics in game journalism but I'm not part of that ethics in game journalism crowd"
 
Not sure what's with all the gaming channels shitting the bed. AVGN sucks balls now too. Guess I'll ride it out with Angry Joe... which I'm fine with
I get shit whenever I say this, but if you want "consumer advocate" era Jim Sterling, look up Upper Echelon Gamers and Sid Alpha. If you want golden age TB, look up ACG.

No, they aren't 1-1 perfect clones of those creators, but you'll never get that. You can argue they are lolcows themselves, but so were Jim and TB.

"The gamers" - why even creating content about vidya if you hate the potential consumers of that content so much?
He spells "The Gamers" with a capital G. Which makes me think it might be a reference to "capital G Gamers" or "Gamers(tm)" that was a popular insult with journalists and lefties during GamerGate. "Gamers" were hardcore games, "gamers" were casuals that were going to replace them.
 
He spells "The Gamers" with a capital G. Which makes me think it might be a reference to "capital G Gamers" or "Gamers(tm)" that was a popular insult with journalists and lefties during GamerGate. "Gamers" were hardcore games, "gamers" were casuals that were going to replace them.
So some actual industry insiding.

Big companies get really fucking nervous when the hardcore guys leave enmass, as the casuals tend to get their recommendations for games, even AAA, from the hardcore guys and "influencers". Exception being mobile and F2P MMOs. The AAA industry lives on being just enough to get the hardcore, while being little enough to be approachable by the casuals. Though hardcore niche appeal does have the largest potential profit margins, it's also high risk.

It's also worth noting indie success is based off of hardcore gamers leading casual towards them in many cases, as the hardcore guys are the ones digging through indie games and holding up the good ones for the casuals to go towards.

During #GamerGate there was a drop in hardcore gamers talking about games. It caused panic behind closed doors as free marketing dried up, new adoption rates were slipping, and to make it up marketing budgets had to be bumped up to keep on projection. Casuals simply don't talk about video games as much, they don't great the buzz going.

Casuals really are viewed as sheep following hardcore shepards. The value is in the sheep, not the shepards, but the herd wanders if left without. Like wise the sheep provide the shepards with a means of getting what they want. It's a symbiotic relationship. Casuals provide waves of money, hardcore gamers show where the good stuff is. It results in more games for everyone.

Even CoD is seeing growth suffer as they lose ever more hardcore players, and as the hardcore leave the lights attracting casual moths do as well. They instead go wherever the hardcore are going.

These journos are also only kept afloat by the hardcore people tuning in. Jim knows this, he transitioned to troon and troon bucks because he saw it as a clear way to make money while he ostracized the type of people who care enough about video games to watch his crap. The industry is funded by the casuals, but it has real issues without the hardcore.
 
Jim's going to TERF Island:
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Surprised he's even considering going to the UK. You'd think that Jim would be too scarred to go there out the TERFs gassing him.

He must know that his hyperbolic meltdowns on TERF island are just that, hyperbolic and barely rooted in reality.
 
So some actual industry insiding.

Big companies get really fucking nervous when the hardcore guys leave enmass, as the casuals tend to get their recommendations for games, even AAA, from the hardcore guys and "influencers". Exception being mobile and F2P MMOs. The AAA industry lives on being just enough to get the hardcore, while being little enough to be approachable by the casuals. Though hardcore niche appeal does have the largest potential profit margins, it's also high risk.

It's also worth noting indie success is based off of hardcore gamers leading casual towards them in many cases, as the hardcore guys are the ones digging through indie games and holding up the good ones for the casuals to go towards.

During #GamerGate there was a drop in hardcore gamers talking about games. It caused panic behind closed doors as free marketing dried up, new adoption rates were slipping, and to make it up marketing budgets had to be bumped up to keep on projection. Casuals simply don't talk about video games as much, they don't great the buzz going.

Casuals really are viewed as sheep following hardcore shepards. The value is in the sheep, not the shepards, but the herd wanders if left without. Like wise the sheep provide the shepards with a means of getting what they want. It's a symbiotic relationship. Casuals provide waves of money, hardcore gamers show where the good stuff is. It results in more games for everyone.

Even CoD is seeing growth suffer as they lose ever more hardcore players, and as the hardcore leave the lights attracting casual moths do as well. They instead go wherever the hardcore are going.

These journos are also only kept afloat by the hardcore people tuning in. Jim knows this, he transitioned to troon and troon bucks because he saw it as a clear way to make money while he ostracized the type of people who care enough about video games to watch his crap. The industry is funded by the casuals, but it has real issues without the hardcore.
Sorry to bring up this eternal question, but what qualifies as Hardcore?
 
Sorry to bring up this eternal question, but what qualifies as Hardcore?
I'd say a baseline is people who know who made the game and not just the company publishing it, people who play things outside of cruising through day one/special early release titles, keep up with upcoming releases years in advance instead of only when marketing gets a hold of them to start the hype, and can keep communities strong on something both before and for years after release.

I'd put someone like LobosJR in the souls-like sphere as an example of "Hardcore" - That guy gives your game a thumbs up and you just got a near guaranteed sale from every one of his subs and at least half of his followers, and he'll point them toward finding everything you've ever made, but be prepared for him to break your game in half for everyone to see if you put out a bad product as he's also a former tester and occasional speed runner and knows how to destroy everything you made.
 
I'd say a baseline is people who know who made the game and not just the company publishing it
Fair enough, at least in the age of the internet.
people who play things outside of cruising through day one/special early release titles, keep up with upcoming releases years in advance instead of only when marketing gets a hold of them to start the hype, and can keep communities strong on something both before and for years after release.
Pretty good so far. Usually the answer is "If you haven't beaten Dark Souls!"
 
I'd say a baseline is people who know who made the game and not just the company publishing it, people who play things outside of cruising through day one/special early release titles, keep up with upcoming releases years in advance instead of only when marketing gets a hold of them to start the hype, and can keep communities strong on something both before and for years after release.
I'd say it's acking more to "dedicated". Hardcore is when you try to beat Dark Souls using a Guitar Hero controller, or playing a version of nuzlock in which you not only count every fallen pokemon as dead, but on each said occasion shove an amibo of said pokemon in your ass.
 
In this context, I'd say anyone who is into gaming at more than a casual level. And by casual I mean grans playing match three games on facebook, or wagies who only play phone games the way to work.
I'd say casual is the person who only buys a couple of games a year and usually goes with what other people are talking about. They bought Minecraft and CoD because that's what other gamers were playing.
 

"Oh my, so game journos ARE corrupt and in bed with shitty devs and publishers, who would've thought? And the unions are practically helpless. Now if only there was some kind of consumer movement that aimed to end all thes shitty practices, NO NO NOT YOU GAMERGATE."

I don't like Jim, I think he is a moron because what he suggests is not gonna do any harm to malicious side of game industry. I am saying it again and again because Jim keeps saying same stupid shit again and again. And I belive this is the reason why he can't keep his audience and they are tired of him saying the same thing, maybe because he doesn't actually have anything to say.
 
Sorry to bring up this eternal question, but what qualifies as Hardcore?
As far as the industry considers it:

People who think about the game while not actively playing the game, the type of people talking about it in a dedicated discord, chatting about games online in forums, producing media for it, writing guides, seeking to not just understand how the game controls and plays, but really getting in there with the mechanics. The type of people who go beyond just deciding "yeah I like this game" or "nah, I don't like this game" and can really tell you what they do and do not like, why that is, and can then communicate it, the type of people how are putting in more than 21 hours a week into a game (the average gamer puts in ~21 hours a week, or three hours a night). The type of people who take their gaming hobby as a serious hobby and not just something to pass a bit of time and forget about it, and are really keeping up on the news. The type of person who is likely to have a nuanced discussion about hit zones on an enemy, and who have builds that are in the 95th percentile of minmaxed optimization and didn't do so by copying some build they found online, but built it themselves and uploaded it for other people to copy instead. The type of people who will have lore discussions online. In other words, fucking nerds.

The divide between casual and hardcore is more or less that of someone who has gaming as a part of their life and something they really care about and enjoy doing and seek to improve at and get more from as a hobby while discussing it, and those who don't.

Being hardcore with a hobby isn't so much about the impressiveness or difficulty of the accomplishment, but rather how you approach the hobby. There's also the river theory that very rarely shows up in design circles.

There is also the "river theory". The idea of the river theory goes something like this, and applies to table top and video games:

When someone steps into the gaming hobby sphere they will start at their point of access, the game that first really grabbed them. From there they will get swept down stream into more complex and niche titles until they settle out at the spot that they are naturally suited to and only progress to more complex or niche titles once they really need more from their games, but for the most part they will keep moving towards more niche and/or complex titles very rarely less. If the point of access was too far down stream, they are more likely to bounce off gaming entirely without someone there to help them find the right game than they are to seek something simpler or more their speed, in these cases it might take a few blind jabs to get the right point of access.

The average person will enter at something mainstream, think CoD, Ubisoft Openworld Game #695821 or the most recent Bethesda Openworld game. They will get hooked and then seek more. Starting with either popular mods or popular alternatives. Eventually they will try other games and narrow in on what they like, seeking games with more and more depth to them, they will be honing general skills why looking for things that are ever more like that specific thing they are looking for. This is where they tend to learn the names of studios and get to recognize A/AA niche publishers who focus on a certain type of game. Generally after this they get into an ever more specific niche, its like the river branches off, but they continue it down regardless, taking certain branches as they go. The only time they stop narrowing in further on a niche or something more complex is if they jump niches, then it is like they jump back to that big main river and went down a different series of branches, often something closely related to other things they enjoy.

The most important thing for people like journos to remember though is this: Casuals don't replace hardcore gamers, they turn into them. So you sure as fuck better be ready to appease them when they convert, as the hardcore guys are the ones that actually bother reading gaming news and getting involved in any of the discourse. Don't get your meal ticket angry. If you do, you're fucked. I don't care what your activist beliefs are, piss off the audience and you lose your platform because the eyeballs leave and the place hosting it runs out of money, condemning your words to the void. The only place your "important message" will survive is on archives linked to on sites like this.
 
Jim's going to TERF Island:
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Surprised he's even considering going to the UK. You'd think that Jim would be too scarred to go there out the TERFs gassing him.

He must know that his hyperbolic meltdowns on TERF island are just that, hyperbolic and barely rooted in reality.

The people he can fuck are there, that's the only reason he's going.
 
Jim's going to TERF Island:
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Surprised he's even considering going to the UK. You'd think that Jim would be too scarred to go there out the TERFs gassing him.

He must know that his hyperbolic meltdowns on TERF island are just that, hyperbolic and barely rooted in reality.
I wonder if this means LKD's attempt to come to the US has failed.
 
Jim's going to TERF Island:
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Surprised he's even considering going to the UK. You'd think that Jim would be too scarred to go there out the TERFs gassing him.

He must know that his hyperbolic meltdowns on TERF island are just that, hyperbolic and barely rooted in reality.
Looking forward to hearing about how the brave and stunning non-binary Jim Sterling was harrassed by one of the many roving norf fc lynch mobs.
 
The most important thing for people like journos to remember though is this: Casuals don't replace hardcore gamers, they turn into them. So you sure as fuck better be ready to appease them when they convert, as the hardcore guys are the ones that actually bother reading gaming news and getting involved in any of the discourse. Don't get your meal ticket angry. If you do, you're fucked. I don't care what your activist beliefs are, piss off the audience and you lose your platform because the eyeballs leave and the place hosting it runs out of money, condemning your words to the void. The only place your "important message" will survive is on archives linked to on sites like this.
I doubt that. The Wii is a great example. It's popularity was meant to drive a new wave of hardcore gamers, but in practice they stuck to playing wagglefest shovelware, and publishers were more than happen than to churn that stuff out. More hardcore or gateway games failed, or at least were mediocre. To use your river theory, they sat in the centre of the main river until they washed out to sea.

Jim is an example of this. He went all in against GamerGate and lost. He hates games now, and so he's trying to pivot into breadtube and wrestling several years too late.
 
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