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But mainly just wanted to point at this faggot for everyone to laugh at:

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Work parties, I can get wanting to get out of, they often suck anyway, but dude is clearly just a freak for not even wanting to see family. Probably best for everyone if he doesn't go tbf!

Why does every dipshit Branch Covidian have to come up with absurd, elaborate excuses for everything? You see it with the XKCD dude as well. Just say you can't make it.

Or, you know, stop demanding everyone else change their lives to accommodate your absurd fears.
 
Well if you had it, then you are already doomed, eh? Might as well just kill yourself now to spare the terrible end from all your covid health problems.

None of my friends came even close to dying, or having that bad an experience. In fact, being extra grumpy and losing the sense of smell and taste for awhile was the worst of it. Everyone varies, but clearly your lungs are doomed and you have only weeks to live before you drown in your own fluids, so maybe it's time to run a bath, fill it with rose petals and a toaster. It will be quicker, as you will never be free from corona chan, now.
yeah, youre definitely too high on your own fumes when you think anyone who doesn't share your opinions is shaking in their pansies over covid. I guess its easier not to get the "vaxx" if you convince yourself there's no issue anyway. Whatever, im happy youre happy.
 
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they were a few years off, but oh well. kinda funny movie tbh.



Just when Poland is looking the other way into Belarus as well! hmm...
Hmmm...
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yeah, youre definitely too high on your own fumes when you think anyone who doesn't share your opinions is shaking in their pansies over covid. I guess its easier not to get the "vaxx" if you convince yourself there's no issue anyway. Whatever, im happy youre happy.
You said earlier having covid would basically leave your body a shriveled husk. I said, that is not the case for most people. Do you disagree with that or can you admit you are just petrified of the edge cases? Even though you had a bad go, do you feel like you are still in imminent death risk? Are you now on the organ transplant list for a full body overhaul?

For the moment it seems most people have survived both the shot and/or covid. So going with whichever route you want and accepting the risks you want to take is perfectly reasonable. It does not appear that the shot does anything to save others, and one should be able to make even what the powers that be determine as non-optimal life choices.

Shots every few weeks for the rest of my life is a retarded prospect, and I'm fine with my tiny chance of dying, and my tiny chance of being disabled.
 
You said earlier having covid would basically leave your body a shriveled husk. I said, that is not the case for most people. Do you disagree with that or can you admit you are just petrified of the edge cases? Even though you had a bad go, do you feel like you are still in imminent death risk? Are you now on the organ transplant list for a full body overhaul?
No i didn't. You extrapolated or inferred that because you have no understanding of nuance or because you're as I was more politely saying before; someone who externalizes in a reverse fashion their own internal concerns over a disease and its vaccine so you don't have to deal with reality.

I.e. a pussy.

Both of these things are very common online now and I don't really see this leading anywhere.

I will continue to take a balanced view, while you will hold two mutually exclusive thoughts as valid and "tru (tm)" ; that both the vaccine is a conspiracy and that the disease that mandated its urgency is that has the same potential to hurt you "as the common cold" as you said.


Shots every few weeks for the rest of my life is a retarded prospect, and I'm fine with my tiny chance of dying, and my tiny chance of being disabled.

Im glad we agree on something.
 
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No i didn't. You extrapolated or inferred that because you have no understanding of nuance or because you're as I was more politely saying before; someone who externalizes in a reverse fashion their own internal concerns over a disease and its vaccine so you don't have to deal with reality.

I.e. a pussy.

Both of these things are very common online now and I don't really see this leading anywhere.

I will continue to take a balanced view, while you will hold two mutually exclusive thoughts as valid and "tru (tm)" ; that both the vaccine is a conspiracy and that the disease that mandated its urgency is that has the same potential to hurt you "as the common cold" as you said.
It was only a page back at the bottom where you were bemoaning how it kills young people, as if that was at all a huge risk. You also said you had it and it was as close to death as you felt. Why don't you answer how you are doing now? Did you fully recover or are you waiting for your double lung transplant? We're all on pins and needles here.

Where did I say the vaccine was a conspiracy? I said it does not work well, or deliver on its promises, but anyone who was being honest would admit that. The media is constantly reframing it to try and excuse its shortcomings, but even more so they are admitting it's kinda crap now, but the best we have, so just keep taking more until they find a better solution. Rather than a conspiracy, that just seems like a desperate bid to appear they are solving a problem that they can't honestly control. Also that, and that companies like money, and really don't care about the human cost to it.

In all likelihood, they just never solved the major issues with mRNA vaccines and masked their lack of long-term protection by upping the dose to provide a huge initial boost in antibodies that wane over time without triggering much b cell recall. I guess we'll find out some years down the line, but I was aware of this issue in the before times, and I wouldn't be surprised if we find out whatever their fix was wasn't as durable as they hoped.

I also never said it has the same potential to hurt you as the common cold, just that sometimes regular colds do kill people, even young people, but we never promoted a massive fear campaign about that. Covid is still a bit deadlier than the flu for my age range, although in kids it's actually way less deadly. Sometimes colds in kids lead into other disease syndromes that kill them, but it's really uncommon and just the sort of thing you know about from being a hypochondriac growing up. That used to be a personality flaw instead of the religion it is now.

I think everyone should be aware of their personal risk. I was scared until I actually studied the numbers and realized I was imagining a huge risk to my life that just wasn't there.
 

German politician from the Thüringen region claiming Germany is experiencing 10% excess mortality and that she had 2 statisticians analyze the data from the RKI ( German CDC ) and found that excess mortality is highest in those areas with the highest number of (((vaccinated))) people, lowest in those with the least :story:
 
@Escaped Abortion I mentioned in passing that it can kill in two ways (actively and passively through your own bodies reaction) and the way that works and you threw a hissy fit at me.

About the common cold thing. Either you acknowledge that it's a bigger concern than the common cold (and by extension I would add influensa) or you don't. Like there's no point in you mentioning the common cold causing that same response I was talking about if it doesn't do so as often or as seriously .

I'm not overtly concerned about my health and I've recovered very well from the virus. I'm less concerned having had it than previously, even that part of your logic was flawed as fuck. Like why would I be worried about something I beat and that I know have immunity for?

But yes, the fact that people do get very sick and/or have weird fucking symptoms that linger for long periods of time is a concern even if it doesn't kill you. The fact that you and your loved ones haven't had that or haven't died is great. Let's hope that continues.


I think we both appreciate this song though. Fear is the real killer :)

 
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The guy's on 'No Agenda' seem to think that Moderna is going to take the fall if anything bad comes from the mRNA stuff, as they are "relatively" small with no other real products, unlike Pfizer. The data company used for the Pfizer and Moderna shot testing "medidata solutions" had their CEO Glen de Vries murdered "die in a plane crash" recently. He also recently flew with Jeff Bezos on his mini rocket to the edge of space, weird. Makes you wonder a bit though, he sounded like a pretty experienced pilot, and had a flight school. What Trevor Noah says starts to make sense if it looks like they want to sacrifice Moderna to the wolves. Wonder if more negative Moderna press will start to be released.
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Not surprising, considering the deep relations between Pfizer and some medias then I mentionned in an early post.
 
The guy's on 'No Agenda' seem to think that Moderna is going to take the fall if anything bad comes from the mRNA stuff, as they are "relatively" small with no other real products, unlike Pfizer. The data company used for the Pfizer and Moderna shot testing "medidata solutions" had their CEO Glen de Vries murdered "die in a plane crash" recently. He also recently flew with Jeff Bezos on his mini rocket to the edge of space, weird. Makes you wonder a bit though, he sounded like a pretty experienced pilot, and had a flight school. What Trevor Noah says starts to make sense if it looks like they want to sacrifice Moderna to the wolves. Wonder if more negative Moderna press will start to be released.
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I've only listened to a couple of episodes. When you mention "in the morning" though that does ring a bell, if you typed the whole thing out I would have gotten your joke. They say that a lot, and I have a strange craving for mac and cheese (with cheap cheddar) after every show, don't know why.
Just for the hell of it, I went and looked up the NTSB Preliminary Report. It’s interesting. As mentioned, de Vries had an Instrument Rating and Fischer was an Instructor. Both experienced pilots. And the 172S they were flying is a common version of a reliable airframe that’s been around for decades.

What sparks my curiosity is the fact that they were 18 minutes into their flight and were at an approximate altitude of 6400ft AGL when things went wrong. That’s enough altitude to be able to deal with a plethora of possible problems before getting so low that you crash. The typical fatal accident for a single engine civil aircraft happens at low altitude during takeoff, and lesser so during lining up for and then making your landing.

The report says the plane suddenly went into a constant left hand descending turn starting at 6400ft until termination of flight data. That’s fucking weird. Crashes of that sort do happen, usually when a solo pilot suffers from sudden cardiac arrest or other totally debilitating event such as a stroke. Solo pilot gets the big final switch turned off, slumps forward, and that type of crash from a higher altitude ensues. Mechanical failure can also be the cause of such a sudden descent from any altitude.

The report also said that the wreckage showed continuity of control cables, no obvious separation of control surfaces, and the prop was turning under power at impact. IOW, no immediate signs of mechanical failure. Also, the weather was clear and calm that day. It’ll be interesting to compare the final report, to the prelim.
 
So it means the Omicron is more infectious, but with less severe symptoms? I can see Xi and the CCP fuming about this due to their insistence on "Zero Infection" strategy
+ Australia/Kiwiland and all the other extreme suppression countries.

But media will look instances of deaths/hospitalisations with "Moronic" and stoke the fear narrative flames.

Like this report ...
 
+ Australia/Kiwiland and all the other extreme suppression countries.

But media will look instances of deaths/hospitalisations with "Moronic" and stoke the fear narrative flames.

Like this report ...
That's what usually happens with viruses when they are spreading as rapidly as this through the air while also mutating very rapidly.

The mega-killer would be something that has a very long incubation period and then is very deadly while also forming enough of a viral load to infect others while the person isn't aware of it. I don't know if that's even possible (it would be like HIV but with other more efficient means of transmission).


So instead those that are less deadly, or at least that have fewer symptoms and spread more easily than those that are more deadly. The hypothesis is that the virus should mutate into a "common influensa" type thing. This is because that strain becomes more and more dominant because it infects more and more people.
 
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@Escaped Abortion I mentioned in passing that it can kill in two ways (actively and passively through your own bodies reaction) and the way that works and you threw a hissy fit at me.

About the common cold thing. Either you acknowledge that it's a bigger concern than the common cold (and by extension I would add influensa) or you don't. Like there's no point in you mentioning the common cold causing that same response I was talking about if it doesn't do so as often or as seriously .

I'm not overtly concerned about my health and I've recovered very well from the virus. I'm less concerned having had it than previously, even that part of your logic was flawed as fuck. Like why would I be worried about something I beat and that I know have immunity for?

But yes, the fact that people do get very sick and/or have weird fucking symptoms that linger for long periods of time is a concern even if it doesn't kill you. The fact that you and your loved ones haven't had that or haven't died is great. Let's hope that continues.


I think we both appreciate this song though. Fear is the real killer :)

Does anybody actually know anyone who had serious long-term side effects from the virus? I mean, if you're on a vent, side effects makes sense - but for your average joe...
 
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German politician from the Thüringen region claiming Germany is experiencing 10% excess mortality and that she had 2 statisticians analyze the data from the RKI ( German CDC ) and found that excess mortality is highest in those areas with the highest number of (((vaccinated))) people, lowest in those with the least :story:
This is the graph showing the excess mortality (using the average from 2016 to 2020 as baseline) for all German states. (on the x axis "Impfquote" = % vaccinated)
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The correlation found was +0.31, which isn't that strong (1.00 positive correlation). Usually a "strong" correlation would be higher than 0.5.
Even just by looking at the graph and just estimating by eye you see it tends to go down above the 70% vaccination rate. It also doesn't take into account any other factor. Basically correlation does not mean causation.

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This is the graph showing the excess mortality (using the average from 2016 to 2020 as baseline) for all German states. (on the x axis "Impfquote" = % vaccinated)

The correlation found was +0.31, which isn't that strong (1.00 positive correlation). Usually a "strong" correlation would be higher than 0.5.
Even just by looking at the graph and just estimating by eye you see it tends to go down above the 70% vaccination rate. It also doesn't take into account any other factor. Basically correlation does not mean causation.

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Your source is fucking fact checkers a paid government propaganda shills who are on par with ministry of truth
 
Your source is fucking fact checkers a paid government propaganda shills who are on par with ministry of truth
I realize that, but did you look at the actual graph? If you consider the SN and TH states as outliers the excess mortality goes down with increasing vaccination rates.
 
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Does anybody actually know anyone who had serious long-term side effects from the virus? I mean, if you're on a vent, side effects makes sense - but for your average joe... Mom and I were both pretty sick for two weeks, coughed for a month, and have been fine ever since. Dad's about 200lbs overweight and his case was milder and on par with the yearly flu.
My boss lost her sense of taste when she caught covid and ever since it's either been really weak, like altered somehow, or non-existent.
 
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