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[Mile High Club]

It might take a few decades and it is French, but it will be worth it.

Nothing is worth the stench of the French.

 

[Simply Outplayed-HD]

Did Vordrak cuck Null out of the most recent update LOL?

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Also someone went to their forum to mog them about being faggots:

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[ZMOT]

Did Vordrak cuck Null out of the most recent update LOL?

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Also someone went to their forum to mog them about being faggots:

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so, which term in the license agreement got broken?

 

[TVStactic]

Isn't Rust one of the faggiest languages in existence? I mean, isn't literally everyone who develops in Rust some kind of troon or faggot or something?

as @Pointless Sperg pointed out, not really. the dev team has a covered percentage of 59% devs and 41% sjw trannies, hopefully that ratio won't become 49%/51%.

so, which term in the license agreement got broken?

the term that says that they can cancel the service whenever they feel like, that aside it's probably harassment/stalking.

 

[Autistic Joe]

It might take a few decades and it is French, but it will be worth it.

Nothing is worth the stench of the French.

Not to mention, French software would roll over and surrender at the first sign of a DDOS.

as @Pointless Sperg pointed out, not really. the dev team has a covered percentage of 59% devs and 41% sjw trannies, hopefully that ratio won't become 49%/51%.

41%, hmmm....

 

[Vaclav]

PHP: boomer lang, architectural limitations
Ruby: extremely slow singled threaded interpreted lang for soydev smoothbrains, comically slow
Python: slow single threaded interpreted lang for soydev smoothbrains, fragile-ecosystem
JS/NodeJS: single threaded interpreted lang for soydev smoothbrains who don't want to learn more than 1 language, fragile-ecosystem
TypeScript: JS but types are bolted on, hyper-fragile ecosystem
Java: please do the needful
C#: please do the needful but with less cross-platform support
Golang: please do the needful but it compiles really fast, no generics (interfaces suck)
C/C++: not bad, but due to the focus on reliability and security Rust's borrow-checker is worth the complexity.
Rust: most of the benefits of C/C++ but with additional peace of mind that the borrow-checker provides.

Here's a better choice: Common Lisp.

• Uses list and tree structures that are analogous to HTML, so building web templates is extremely straightforward. Embedding program logic in said HTML templates is instant. PHP's best feature is the ability to intersperse code and HTML, this is the same thing but done in a vastly superior language.
• Macros allow you to create new syntax on the fly, which can reduce code size by orders of magnitude.
• Javascript and CSS can also be generated from Lisp, which allows you to graft advanced metaprogramming onto those languages.
• CL's standards are mostly set and the language changes very slowly. Good code written in it can be used for many years to come, so you have less to fear from bitrot.
• It's a compiled language allowing interactive development where you can recompile a single function and immediately test it rather than compiling the whole program over and over, making development much faster.
• If you really want maximum performance, you can bypass garbage collection entirely. Even with GC, speeds are on par with Java and can approach C++.

Now, the downside: there aren't many developers and when you get into the macros you -really- need to understand what you're doing. Because macros extend the compiler, you have to understand what's happening at compile time as well as run time or you'll have baffling errors.

But I question how easy it'll be to find Rust developers and especially how easy it'll be to build a system for generating HTML content in a low-level language where you have to write lines and lines to do basic string manipulation. There are HTML templating systems for Rust but that still means writing tons of code to interface with them. If you're writing backend web services, like for processing pictures and videos, that could make more sense in Rust. To implement a website where you want to handle things like forum-subforum structures, post ratings, user profiles and so in, it's best to have a language where you can easily work with high-level data structures.

 

[Throwing Romans]

the term that says that they can cancel the service whenever they feel like, that aside it's probably harassment/stalking.

Agreed. It's probably this restriction from Section 3:

You undertake to ensure that the Software is not used by You or others to engage in or promote: illegal activity; any activity that would violate the rights of third parties; defamation, discrimination, harassment, hatred or harm of third parties.

 

[Frail Snail]

Here's a better choice: Common Lisp.

• Uses list and tree structures that are analogous to HTML, so building web templates is extremely straightforward. Embedding program logic in said HTML templates is instant. PHP's best feature is the ability to intersperse code and HTML, this is the same thing but done in a vastly superior language.
• Macros allow you to create new syntax on the fly, which can reduce code size by orders of magnitude.
• Javascript and CSS can also be generated from Lisp, which allows you to graft advanced metaprogramming onto those languages.
• CL's standards are mostly set and the language changes very slowly. Good code written in it can be used for many years to come, so you have less to fear from bitrot.
• It's a compiled language allowing interactive development where you can recompile a single function and immediately test it rather than compiling the whole program over and over, making development much faster.
• If you really want maximum performance, you can bypass garbage collection entirely. Even with GC, speeds are on par with Java and can approach C++.

Now, the downside: there aren't many developers and when you get into the macros you -really- need to understand what you're doing. Because macros extend the compiler, you have to understand what's happening at compile time as well as run time or you'll have baffling errors.

But I question how easy it'll be to find Rust developers and especially how easy it'll be to build a system for generating HTML content in a low-level language where you have to write lines and lines to do basic string manipulation. There are HTML templating systems for Rust but that still means writing tons of code to interface with them. If you're writing backend web services, like for processing pictures and videos, that could make more sense in Rust. To implement a website where you want to handle things like forum-subforum structures, post ratings, user profiles and so in, it's best to have a language where you can easily work with high-level data structures.

If I had to guess, the number of Rust developers in the wild right now is bigger than the number of CL ones. Might as well beat the dead horse too and post the curse while I'm at it. Just pray and hope that this isn't Infinity Next 2.0, language choice is secondary.

 

[obsdj]

hatred

Yawn. What year is it?

 

[Faggotdog Niggertail]

Code new forum in Brainfuck and experience an aneurysm.

 

[Lord Xenu]

https://xenforo.com/community/threa...ring-all-xf-forums-for-hosted-content.200847/

The "most egregious manner". As far as I can see, this is the only post that takes an ideological position in this member's 10 years and 630 posts.

Almost every post prior to this one is related to the software development or patch notes.

Archive Pg. 1
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[HumanHive]

so, which term in the license agreement got broken?

The "we can revoke it at any time and you'd have to spend thousands of dollars in legal fees to prove you didn't do anything wrong" clause.

 

[Cats]

 

[Vaclav]

If I had to guess, the number of Rust developers in the wild right now is bigger than the number of CL ones. Might as well beat the dead horse too and post the curse while I'm at it. Just pray and hope that this isn't Infinity Next 2.0, language choice is secondary.

You're probably right. Two more important questions to ask are 1) how many developer hours will it be possible to get in Rust vs. CL, and 2) how many developer hours will be required to complete a full-featured forum application in Rust vs. CL.

It looks like there are web frameworks for Rust, some of them appear robust or at least well-reviewed, but I'd be interested to see how many significant completed Rust web apps exist and the time and number of devs needed to build them.

 

[onetruemedia]

I would assume it would be a SPA? With most of the communication via websockets?

If so, I would say the C and C++ bindings are much more mature for websockets in webasm or asm.js depending on if you also want to use Rust on the client.

But really the main thing would be more mature serverside libaries for websockets being available in C, since websockets is used by embeded systems quite a bit.

Rust is a toy, if you want to build a real project and get real developers where our day job is in C and C++, you would go with C or C++, Rust is something people write toy projects for on weekends.

 

[Slap47]

Did Vordrak cuck Null out of the most recent update LOL?

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Also someone went to their forum to mog them about being faggots:

https://xenforo.com/community/threa...ring-all-xf-forums-for-hosted-content.200847/

Interesting take.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

I would guess that Pakistan (a nuclear weapons nation that's top-five in population) probably has police?

 

[Faggotdog Niggertail]

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Interesting take.

With that impeccable logic, no one will ever require a reason for a ban again. We just write "Spammer" for the reasoning.

 

[TheTrumanShow]

What's everyones opinion on the right of corporations to de-platform other businesses?
The big credit card companies and payment services destroyed/hurt so many social media upstarts its stifling competition at this point. Needs to be some balance to this "refuse to provide a service" stuff.

Glad you've got it planned out. In a way Null, you're like the Trump of the web, no matter how much they move against you, you keep going forward.

 

[obsdj]

What's everyones opinion on the right of corporations to de-platform other businesses?

Null has written a couple of pieces that address this in a fairly accessible way: Where the Sidewalk Ends: The Death of the Internet and previously Section 230 Isn't The Problem, Payment Networks Are. Might wanna read them on MATI instead of here if eyestrain is a problem though.