Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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The second approach is the Uttar Pradesh model.

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6 months of near total elimination of the virus through the systematic use of Ivermectin to break the transmission chain. No lockdowns, no vaccine mandates, just the sensible use of a cheap, safe drug.

We could have done this at any point during the pandemic.
Yeah, but that doesn't fit the narrative and agenda of TPTB.
 
Try to be more succinct next time, I can't be bothered to read your rambling.

You were wrong on so many levels brevity just wasn't an option. I call bullshit on not reading considering you've read far bigger posts of mine when they were more to your liking, and so have so many others here. Way to concede you got nothing except irrational nonsense.

Maybe, maybe not.

I said it might.

Probably the new variant will breakthrough in most vaccinated people and in all likelihood all those with natural immunity from a genuine infection also. It is after all quite a different strain; so I expect significant breakthrough.

But if it is very mild, it might be a blessing. It will take some time to establish if an infection from this Omicron will impart a mild case of disease as well as antibodies against other strains of Covid - but it likely will.

We might have a global sweep of Omicron that essentially bests a vaccination jab in providing protection.

That'd be great and the data is pointing to this direction so far, though with these things its very fluent.
The problem is that I doubt the pharmacy corporations and the people in government who've gone accustomed to being wannabe (provincial in Australias case) dictators are going to give up that power so easily. It would also be admitting to the failure of the lockdown strategy as a solution and potentially the failure of the vaccination program as well. The later could hurt public trust in vaccinations in the future and too many people both for good and bad reason care about this issue.

Too much to lose at this point, but I hope you're right. There's still plenty of doctors and scientists that have spoken up, albeit somewhat softly and if this develops positively they will speak up more and more.
 
Uh... guys? This hasn't been posted here, has it?


What is this? Kids needing to be hospitalized because of the jab? 3 kids died? Other adults died? :stress:

What's going on?

Also, them saying they're saving the batches to give it to adults. wow

The Viatnamese BBC is also reporting about the 3 kids that died https://www.bbc.com/vietnamese/vietnam-59487789
Seems not to be fake news.
 

‘Wall of secrecy’ in Pfizer contracts as company accused of profiteering​

US company faces scrutiny over Covid profits after UK agrees to secrecy clause

Ministers have agreed a secrecy clause in any dispute with the drugs manufacturer Pfizer over Britain’s Covid vaccine supply. Large portions of the government’s contracts with the company over the supply of 189m vaccine doses have been redacted and any arbitration proceedings will be kept secret.

The revelation comes as Pfizer is accused by a former senior US health official of “war profiteering’’ during the pandemic. In a Channel 4 Dispatches investigation to be broadcast this week, Tom Frieden, who was director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention under Barack Obama, said: “If you’re just focusing on maximising your profits and you’re a vaccine manufacturer … you are war profiteering.”

Zain Rizvi, research director at Public Citizen, a US consumer advocacy organisation which has examined Pfizer’s global vaccine contracts, said: “There is a wall of secrecy surrounding these contracts and it’s unacceptable, particularly in a public health crisis.”

Rizvi said the UK needed to explain why it had agreed to secret arbitration proceedings. He said: “It’s the only high-income country we have seen that has agreed to this provision. It allows pharmaceutical companies to bypass domestic legal processes.

“The UK government has allowed the drug firms to call the shots. How did we end up in a situation where a handful of drug firms were able to exert so much control over the most powerful governments in the world? It points to a broken system.”

Pfizer has won plaudits for its vaccine delivery programme, but the US multinational faces growing scrutiny over the scale of its profits and the proportion of doses it has delivered to low-income countries.

While AstraZeneca agreed to sell its vaccine at cost during the pandemic, Pfizer wanted to secure its profits. The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, which now has the brand name Comirnaty, will be one of the most lucrative drugs in pharmaceutical history.

The Channel 4 investigation reveals analysis by one biological engineering expert claiming the Pfizer vaccine costs just 76p to manufacture for each shot. It is reportedly being sold for £22 a dose to the UK government.

The estimated manufacturing costs do not include research, distribution and other costs, but Pfizer says its profit margin as a percentage before tax are in the “high-20s”. Pfizer expects to deliver 2.3bn vaccines this year with predicted revenues of $36bn (£26.3bn).

A report last month by the People’s Vaccine Alliance, a coalition of organisations including aid charities, said Pfizer and other drug firms have sold the majority of doses to rich countries, leaving low-income countries “out in the cold” . Only 2% of people in low-income countries had been fully vaccinated against coronavirus. Drug firms should suspend intellectual property rights for Covid-19 vaccines, tests, treatments and other medical tools.

Pfizer has faced increased scrutiny allegations of excessive global profits after its partner, the biotechnology company BioNTech, announced in September 2020 it was to receive up to €375m (£320m) from the German government to fund vaccine development.

Anna Marriott, Oxfam’s health policy manager said: “It is deplorable that billions of people around the world are being denied vaccines so that pharmaceutical companies can make obscene profits. Given that public investment was crucial to vaccine development, it’s incomprehensible that pharma monopolies are being prioritised over people’s lives.”

Pfizer has to date pledged 40m doses out of global production to Covax, the UN-backed initiative delivering vaccines for low income countries. This is less than 2% of its global production for 2021. The firm says it aims to deliver at least two billion doses to low- and middle-income countries by the end of 2022.

Pfizer said vaccine production was the “biggest scale-up” in the firm’s history and it was proud to have delivered more than 2bn vaccines to 162 countries. It supplied low-income countries on a not-for-profit price and all other countries were being offered the vaccine at a significantly discounted price.

The company added: “The pandemic has highlighted the extraordinary value that a vibrant private sector can deliver to society.” It said confidentiality agreements were standard practice. The estimated cost of manufacturing the vaccine by a biological engineering expert was grossly inaccurate and meaningless because it did not reflect the true costs of bringing the vaccine to patients, including clinical studies, increased manufacturing efforts and global distribution.

The government said its vaccine contracts were commercially sensitive and it could not disclose any further details. BioNTech did not respond to a request for comment.


 
Well this is fun? Did not keep up with thread and at around 3300(?) seemed pretty gay and still trying to catch up without shoving my head throw a wall, so hope not late.
It is noted as delays till new years. These numbers are kind of neet.
I may not get to make note till next year with situation (hopefully one of the lucky ones). Given there is this article about planned process.. Which either way was planned noted from 11/22(3) article. Most of us would be canned after December anyway.
They laid out a deadline. They knew the time of year. How do they not no the stupidity of all of this is beyond me. Happy holidays and fuck you; I guess,; well shit, that looks bad. Health and safety as I have been told, so must be the answers.
They shit can people or don't it is going to piss people off either way, so happy days.
on average 98% comply and 91% get the shot. and yet they'd still rather wait till after the holidays, i'm calling shenanigans, unless the government is just that stupid telling 2-9% of your workforce to fuck off shouldn't be that crippling. plenty of companies lay off that many at a time.
I have become angry and am conforming less and less to pretty much every group, particularly the media and government. If there are enough people like me, the world begins to suck quite a bit. I'm also a particularly exceptional asshole, so I'm not sure how many there actually are.

Work finally announced the deadline for religious and medical exemption paperwork this morning. That deadline is tomorrow. These fucks are... well... fucks.
thats not true. how about clothes? bet you aren't conforming less in those areas, no need to wear socks or underwear yet you still do like a conformist. its legal to not wear a shirt either.
 
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Well he has that 20% chance of terminal cardiomyopathy to look forward to, won't show up in 3-5 years and everyone will have forgotten all about the coof jabs by then and, as he's finding out, you have no recourse to sue the vaccine makers or the government in the United States for being damaged by a vaccine.

At a minimum he should have demanded that his employer impose the vaccine requirement as a condition of employment on pain of termination and in writing. Also he should have demanded that they accept all liability for any adverse occurrence, which they'll of course refuse but you had best make the demand. I bet none of that happened. Instead a 'request' for vaccination status. A general announcement that the company will require proof of vaccination by a certain date with unknown specific repercussions (although everyone knows) written in language that provides plausible deniability of coercion.

Sucks to be a mudblood when shit goes south but again care factor is pretty fucking non-existent.
Sounds like this person is in Western Australia. There's a "No Fault COVID-19 Indemnity Scheme" from the federal government for the vaccine damaged where they pay out lost wages and whatnot but it's basically trash. I have a brother in law now suffering from arrhythmia who may never work again and it sounds like an uphill battle to get any decent payout. Of course taxpayers will be the ones burdened with this, not Pfizer et al.

When searching for the proper name of the vaccine damage payout I stumbled across this article, hadn't seen it before and it's a bit of a goldmine: https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...us-vaccine-injury-claims-20211115-p598yy.html (https://archive.md/SK2nZ)

Taxpayers are facing a hefty bill for rare but significant coronavirus vaccine injuries, with at least 10,000 people planning to claim under the federal government’s no-fault indemnity scheme.

Services Australia is building an online portal, to be launched next month, for uncapped claims above $5000 from those who suffered injury and loss of income due to their COVID-19 vaccine, with compensation for medical costs and lost wages to be paid by the government.

Shine Lawyers head of medical negligence Clare Eves said the amount of the claims “could be really significant” for people who experienced rare but serious adverse vaccine reactions, such as stroke and inflammation of the heart.

“Adverse events, even though they happen to a tiny proportion of people, for the people it does impact it’s really quite devastating,” Ms Eves said.
The Therapeutic Goods Administration recorded 78,880 adverse events linked to COVID-19 vaccination, representing a small minority (0.21 per cent) of the 37.8 million doses administered to 18.4 million people, by November 7. The vast majority of those 78,000 adverse events were mild side effects, including headache, nausea and sore arms.

More than 10,000 people have registered their interest to make a claim since registration opened on the federal health department’s website in September, official data shows, meaning it would cost at least $50 million if each claim is approved.

Ms Eves said significant brain or cardiac injury could result in a claim in the hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars.
“When you’re dealing with something like a stroke, you could have someone who is a truck driver and can’t go back to work, or an accountant who can’t process big numbers anymore,” she said.

“In severe cases, people go on to have multiple strokes and may need 24-hour care.”
People who experienced a moderate to significant adverse reaction resulting in a hospital stay of at least one night are covered by the government’s vaccine indemnity scheme.

Claimants seeking $20,000 or less will need to submit evidence of their injury and its relationship to COVID-19 vaccination, medical costs and lost wages.
Claims for more than $20,000, including death claims, will be assessed by a panel of independent legal experts and compensation paid based on their recommendations.
The government has not revealed what standard of proof will be required to establish that the person’s injury was caused by the vaccine.
Nine people, most of them elderly, have died after experiencing an adverse reaction to a COVID-19 vaccine in Australia.

Ms Eves said Shine Lawyers had received an influx of calls from people wanting to pursue legal action for vaccine side effects, referring most to the government’s no-fault scheme. Shine is also representing several litigants who fall outside the scheme.
Funding for the vaccine indemnity scheme was not included in the 2021-22 budget. It is expected to be funded in the government’s mid-year economic and fiscal outlook.

Adverse reactions to be covered are based on TGA advice and will include heart conditions myocarditis and pericarditis, the blood clotting disorder thrombosis with thrombocytopenia, the rare neurological condition Guillain-Barré syndrome and immune thrombocytopenia.

Edit: The Nov 30 date he gives was the group 1 vaccination deadline from the WA state government. https://www.wa.gov.au/government/announcements/mandatory-covid-19-vaccination-policy-wa-workforces
So his options were kinda limited but of course not cucking out is always an option. Group 2 deadline for first dose is December 31st and I might fall into that (workplace hasn't decided yet as the rules are vague) but don't worry Kiwi bros, they'll have to force me to the ground if they want to pump that shit in my veins.
 
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The entire problem I have with this whole farcical drama is this: the vaccines don't work. They've never worked. I know people who have been dreadfully sick with covid and others who haven't even realised they had it. Some were vaccinated, some weren't. I know of two people who died. One was vaccinated, one wasn't (both were overweight and had other illnesses). The vaccines don't appear to have made any difference to how ill people get, how long they might spend in hospital, or whether they'll die. Yes it's anecdotal, but it's what I see and what a lot of other people see as well. We're being forced to jump through ever more hoops over a vaccine that doesn't work.

Everything else becomes secondary to that, I think. The fact that it might cause significant injuries is an issue, but it wouldn't be an issue without the constant demands to comply with social pressure and legal mandates for a vaccine that doesn't work.

It's driving me nuts.
 
Your stats quoted have been debunked a thousand times and there isn't a need to address it because you won't change your mind because you won't admit you were wrong. The irony being you were always wrong because you were never right.

Remember when you were malding furiously about Florida being a mass grave with statistics exclusively sourced from a random leftist rag while screaming hysterically about how the statistics from the CDC, WHO, and state authorities were all lies and slander?

Kiwi Farms remembers.
 
Well he has that 20% chance of terminal cardiomyopathy to look forward to, won't show up in 3-5 years and everyone will have forgotten all about the coof jabs by then and, as he's finding out, you have no recourse to sue the vaccine makers or the government in the United States for being damaged by a vaccine.
I hadn't actually fully considered other issues related to pericarditis and myocarditis, do you have anything you can link that shows the likelihood of complications like that later? Searching it gives little to nothing but astroterfed results.
 
on average 98% comply and 91% get the shot. and yet they'd still rather wait till after the holidays, i'm calling shenanigans, unless the government is just that stupid telling 2-9% of your workforce to fuck off shouldn't be that crippling. plenty of companies lay off that many at a time.

thats not true. how about clothes? bet you aren't conforming less in those areas, no need to wear socks or underwear yet you still do like a conformist. its legal to not wear a shirt either.
Dude usa has around 40 per cent non compliance even when they tried to court marshall the marines it turned out they lied about the numbers if the numbers were near that they wouldn't be throwing this shitfit
I hadn't actually fully considered other issues related to pericarditis and myocarditis, do you have anything you can link that shows the likelihood of complications like that later? Searching it gives little to nothing but astroterfed results.
Something like high mortality rates starting from 20 per cent death rate over 5 years ending at 50 . So no way you can spin that shit .
 
In other words they put all Gov. Cuomo deaths under the rubber.

Meanwhile in New Brunswick, WTF!? I don't know if there other sources who confirm this..
Beginning Saturday, people in New Brunswick who do not show proof of full vaccination can be barred from entering grocery stores to buy food.

The measure was announced as part of the province’s “winter action plan,” which allows any business, including grocery stores, the option of barring unvaccinated individuals.

According to Health Minister Dorothy Shephard, it comes as the province sees a “very concerning” rise in COVID infections over the last two weeks, particularly among unvaccinated Canadians.

The province reported 97 cases and 2 deaths since Thursday.

The new restriction belongs to the first level of a three-level escalating alert system.

“The measures are not difficult,” Shephard said, adding “the power to keep us in level one is in our hands.”

In a guide published by the federal government, Public Safety Canada names food as one of ten critical sectors of infrastructure, calling its preparation and delivery an Essential Service and Function.

While provinces have been free to manage their own restrictions and lockdowns during the pandemic, grocery stores across the country have until now remained open to everyone.

The announcement comes a day after Shephard warned New Brunswickers against making Christmas travel plans.
 
In other words they put all Gov. Cuomo deaths under the rubber.

Meanwhile in New Brunswick, WTF!? I don't know if there other sources who confirm this..
cuomo lied and people Died sounds like a huge crime to me.
best to double check the sources.
 
The vaccine might not be designed to wipe out the population NOW, or in a few years. It may be used to cut life expectancy short, so that our generations don't live to see retirement age.

Increase age before you can retire, decrease chance of surviving to that age = Pension problem solved.

By the Federal Reserves own estimates, debt owed outstrips money made by 2050 (The whole thing collapses in on itself). But if you were to remove the debt owed by paying people a pension, you may get another 20 years+ out of the Federal Reserves' plan.
 
I found this guy another blue check goes by Palmer report

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The vaccine might not be designed to wipe out the population NOW, or in a few years. It may be used to cut life expectancy short, so that our generations don't live to see retirement age.

Increase age before you can retire, decrease chance of surviving to that age = Pension problem solved.

By the Federal Reserves own estimates, debt owed outstrips money made by 2050 (The whole thing collapses in on itself). But if you were to remove the debt owed by paying people a pension, you may get another 20 years+ out of the Federal Reserves' plan.

But why give it to toddlers and kids, too? You need *some* people to work, can't have all these kids fall over death in their 30s already when they've barely been productive. If so, theyd have mandated it for 60+ only (and that would even have looked scientifically legitimate, seeing how it's the group most affected)
 
But why give it to toddlers and kids, too? You need *some* people to work, can't have all these kids fall over death in their 30s already when they've barely been productive. If so, theyd have mandated it for 60+ only (and that would even have looked scientifically legitimate, seeing how it's the group most affected)
Kids get old. It may not kill them in their 30s, it may do them in in their 50's.

Besides, how many people have taken the jab? It's not 90% of people like the media are touting, it's always 90% of people [plus some clause]. "90% of all eligable working age males with no children, not married and are in education have taken the jab"

It's the same fuckery as saying:

Pick a number between 1 and 50
The number has to be two digits
Both digits have to be odd
Neither digit can be the same (you can't chose 11)
Is the number you're thinking of 37? (If not it's probably going to be 35)

That's a party trick people play to joke about being psychic, but in reality, it's just whittling the numbers down to the point where only a handful can be chosen.

Or like in cosmetic commercials that say "90% of people who used l'oreal had shinier hair" then in small print it says "2000 people surveyed, 1000 said they had shinier hair, 900 of those 1000 were used for this commercial" or some shit. Statistics, it's all bollox.

Anyway, the jab could trigger something at an older age when your body is less likely to bounce back.
 
But why give it to toddlers and kids, too? You need *some* people to work, can't have all these kids fall over death in their 30s already when they've barely been productive. If so, theyd have mandated it for 60+ only (and that would even have looked scientifically legitimate, seeing how it's the group most affected)
Incompetence, hubris and corruption . Nobody will gave a fuck if some 70 year old croaks earlier few years but here we are
 
But why give it to toddlers and kids, too? You need *some* people to work, can't have all these kids fall over death in their 30s already when they've barely been productive. If so, theyd have mandated it for 60+ only (and that would even have looked scientifically legitimate, seeing how it's the group most affected)
Because those in control believe the world itself is a creation of the evil one - trapping our souls/light in organic matter and preventing our return to the divine light of the gnostic trinity.

Effectively the god of the old testament is in fact the devil and earth is prison/hell.
 
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